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  • booker21
    MVP
    • Jun 2003
    • 4928

    #301
    Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

    Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
    Here's from a game I played Pre-Patch



    And this was from the game I played this morning



    Someone can play more games to see if that trend continues and I'm guessing it will but you can already see a huge difference. I completed a large number of drive goals in both games and you can see the huge difference in results. I can't guarantee it but my guess still stands that they capped out the confidence gain from drive goals at 1.

    EDIT: One thing you don't see in the first screenshot either is that even though it says +8, it doesn't include any of the other goals and/or gains from that game. IIRC, from that one game Jamaal Charles actually went up 16 in confidence even though it only said +8.
    Great info, so they capped Drive goals to +1.

    you can tell this system is buged already. I mean, what´s the poing of aiming for the other drive goals if they are only going to give you 1 point

    What i don´t like is that you will get a 1+ confidence for all the team guarantee on every game, that means 16 rating boost guarantee for every player. you have drive goals on every drive, that means 60 chances to get the drive goal completed. You can´t fail.

    oh well, i´m glad they tweaked, i would love that they would turn off this $@#$@ feature but i guess it´s better than nothing. I may still keep doing the workaround though. I like my Drive goals to be 100% off. Hate having bonuses over CPU.
    English, is not my first language.

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    • althor
      Rookie
      • Sep 2015
      • 291

      #302
      Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

      Originally posted by IcedCoffee1983
      You will need to re-start your franchise to get the WR TE and OL drills to show up.

      It's already been confirmed the patch fixed this, but not for existing franchises.

      Honestly, I just am starting over with all my offline franchises, there are way too many fixes this time not do start over.
      Hrm, wonder what I am doing wrong then. I restarted franchise and still do not have those options. I have extra QB drills now, but no WR, TE, and OL. Not that it matters really, I lock up trying to get into game prep. I was going to do some to see if it opened up more options but lock up on loading screen.

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      • Danimal
        MVP
        • Mar 2003
        • 2199

        #303
        Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

        Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
        And this was from the game I played this morning



        Someone can play more games to see if that trend continues and I'm guessing it will but you can already see a huge difference.
        Would you mind posting another shot after week 2 of the same guy?
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        • booker21
          MVP
          • Jun 2003
          • 4928

          #304
          Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

          Originally posted by Danimal
          Would you mind posting another shot after week 2 of the same guy?
          In the long run, you will notice the Drive goals Boost. Don´t get me wrong, i´m really happy they capped at 1, but this should be turned off, it´s not balance. The super sim games doesn´t use it.
          You have 60 chances to complete the drive goals, remember some are as easy as complete 3 consecutive passes or get 2 first downs. so you get a guarantee 1+. Some of these drives, affect the whole team (offense or Defense).

          On that screen, without Drive goals, players would have 1 less

          charles 4,
          davis 0
          west 0

          It the long run, it will be noticeable. This will be 16+ boost that CPU team doesn´t get.
          Next year EA should give us the option to turn this off. As we had when we could turn off the Home field advantage from NCAA.
          English, is not my first language.

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          • Brandwin
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 30621

            #305
            Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

            I started a new cfm and I was able to do catch drills with receivers and tight ends, but that was the only new drills for me. Simmed through my current season in cfm and have acceleration burst added. So i don't know what the deal is with game prep drills. I don't know what triggers new ones being added or not. Year 3 I had a new one added was for kickers. First time in three seasons I has the option for that drill.


            Not only that, but I still just have some guys at a +1 or +2 with two players at a +3.

            Also, QB awareness and LT pass blocking seems fine. I have ststtibf QB's who are in the 90's with awareness and some who are low 60's or 50's. Same with left tackles, lowest pass block for a starter is 77. Most guys are somewhere in the 80's with a handful in the 99-97 rating.

            While I would like the drills for my receivers and tight ends, I'm just not seeing the advantage of restarting. If you're enjoying your CFM and deep into it, it see a pointless to restart to me. I'll continue with the work around to turn drives on and try to win back to back Super Bowls.

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            • Ddson24
              Rookie
              • Aug 2015
              • 57

              #306
              Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

              Originally posted by booker21
              In the long run, you will notice the Drive goals Boost. Don´t get me wrong, i´m really happy they capped at 1, but this should be turned off, it´s not balance. The super sim games doesn´t use it.
              You have 60 chances to complete the drive goals, remember some are as easy as complete 3 consecutive passes or get 2 first downs. so you get a guarantee 1+. Some of these drives, affect the whole team (offense or Defense).

              On that screen, without Drive goals, players would have 1 less

              charles 4,
              davis 0
              west 0

              It the long run, it will be noticeable. This will be 16+ boost that CPU team doesn´t get.
              Next year EA should give us the option to turn this off. As we had when we could turn off the Home field advantage from NCAA.
              This is not true at all. You don't get plus one every game. I have played 10+ and only had 2 plus ones. It is not capped at one at all. You only get xp for goals. Once a game it gives you one for conf and if you fail you do not get it again that game. It is all xp based. I wish it just told me what goal is the conf one cause I can never figure it out. I complete like 80 percent of them yet only plus 2 conf in 10+ games over 2 different cfm. This guy placed one game and was just saying it looks like it's capped. Not that it is.

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              • Armor and Sword
                The Lama
                • Sep 2010
                • 21794

                #307
                Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

                Originally posted by Brandwin
                I started a new cfm and I was able to do catch drills with receivers and tight ends, but that was the only new drills for me. Simmed through my current season in cfm and have acceleration burst added. So i don't know what the deal is with game prep drills. I don't know what triggers new ones being added or not. Year 3 I had a new one added was for kickers. First time in three seasons I has the option for that drill.


                Not only that, but I still just have some guys at a +1 or +2 with two players at a +3.

                Also, QB awareness and LT pass blocking seems fine. I have ststtibf QB's who are in the 90's with awareness and some who are low 60's or 50's. Same with left tackles, lowest pass block for a starter is 77. Most guys are somewhere in the 80's with a handful in the 99-97 rating.

                While I would like the drills for my receivers and tight ends, I'm just not seeing the advantage of restarting. If you're enjoying your CFM and deep into it, it see a pointless to restart to me. I'll continue with the work around to turn drives on and try to win back to back Super Bowls.

                Same here. I am in week 13 of my CFM and am not restarting. I am having too much fun and feel "invested" in my universe.

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                • bcruise
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 23274

                  #308
                  Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

                  Originally posted by booker21
                  I mean, what´s the poing of aiming for the other drive goals if they are only going to give you 1 point
                  XP is the point. it gives you XP for completing some of them and confidence for others. Doesn't say which until after the game.

                  What i don´t like is that you will get a 1+ confidence for all the team guarantee on every game, that means 16 rating boost guarantee for every player. you have drive goals on every drive, that means 60 chances to get the drive goal completed. You can´t fail.
                  It's not a guarantee. I'm seeing a lot of goals like high-volume target or 20 yard rush, and those aren't always easy to get. Even in my one game where I got a +1 drive goal confidence it was only 13 players or so.

                  oh well, i´m glad they tweaked, i would love that they would turn off this $@#$@ feature but i guess it´s better than nothing. I may still keep doing the workaround though. I like my Drive goals to be 100% off. Hate having bonuses over CPU.
                  Totally agree. I mean if you really want to get down to it even 1 point a game for some players is going to show up in the long run. But it'll take much, much longer to do so. If this is truly lessened to this degree, I don't feel like it completely breaks the confidence system anymore, and that's pretty important to those who don't want to bother with workarounds.

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                  • mavfan21
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 1842

                    #309
                    Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

                    So CPU teams will never get the Confidence boost post-patch?

                    Even in a 32-team or 'autopilot' situation?
                    Don't look back too long and don't look too far ahead.

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                    • bcruise
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 23274

                      #310
                      Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

                      Originally posted by mavfan21
                      So CPU teams will never get the Confidence boost post-patch?

                      Even in a 32-team or 'autopilot' situation?
                      They were never intended to. Their confidence goes up or down based solely on their statistical performances from game to game.

                      Drive goals are meant to be only for a user-controlled team.

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                      • edaddy
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 2848

                        #311
                        Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

                        Can someone who has played the game after patch 2 tell me if penalties have been affected particularly PI and defensive holding. I noticed a drop in PI and defensive holding after Patch 1 even after cranking it up just wanted to know if its been returned to normal..Thanks!!
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                        • bcruise
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 23274

                          #312
                          Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

                          Originally posted by edaddy
                          Can someone who has played the game after patch 2 tell me if penalties have been affected particularly PI and defensive holding. I noticed a drop in PI and defensive holding after Patch 1 even after cranking it up just wanted to know if its been returned to normal..Thanks!!
                          I've seen two Defensive Pass Interference calls even at 50 through 4 games of testing. I kind of expected there to be none at all.

                          55-60 is probably still good for getting the right number of them.

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                          • GrayDawg
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 864

                            #313
                            Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

                            Originally posted by IcedCoffee1983
                            You will need to re-start your franchise to get the WR TE and OL drills to show up.

                            It's already been confirmed the patch fixed this, but not for existing franchises.

                            Honestly, I just am starting over with all my offline franchises, there are way too many fixes this time not do start over.
                            Ok I did a test run restarting my franchise and selected several teams. They added several other drills however they are for confidence and not xp. This appears to be a flaw in thinking or design. In either case I think I am going to continue my current franchise as is and focus on developing 1-2 players vs 3-4 using non drills. Its ridiculous that you can't develop WR's, TE's, and OL like you can QB's. QB's have like 3 opportunities for XP.

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                            • sir psycho
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 286

                              #314
                              Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

                              I don't have the game yet, and I really want to finally get it.

                              One of the complaints I saw people making, that I haven't seen addressed yet in this thread, was that CPU scrambling QBs would never run and pocket passers were taking off frequently. Is anyone that's played using the 2nd patch still seeing this issue?

                              Thanks

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                              • DeuceDouglas
                                Madden Dev Team
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 4297

                                #315
                                Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

                                Originally posted by Danimal
                                Would you mind posting another shot after week 2 of the same guy?
                                I only played a 3 minute quarter game but I was still able to get 3 or 4 drive goals in it offensively. Here's a screenshot of him post game.



                                I also encountered a really odd bug. I don't know if they're connected or not but I was playing and forced a fumble so it put me on offense with a new drive goal. The play was reviewed and overturned so Denver got the ball back but my offensive drive goal stuck while I was on defense so there was that. Then when they came out to run a play, this is what happened:

                                <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NxzCxwwNRws" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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