FIFA 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

[RoyceDa59]

Re: FIFA 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

Rather disappointed that sleeve patches don't change when you get into the PL. I just won the promotion playoff with Portsmouth and now I'm wearing the Football League patches playing in Premier League matches. For a game that's strength is presentation, that is rather poor.

Yeah I always thought that was weird. It is similar to how Chelsea forever be the champions in your career mode because they will always have the Gold EPL sleeve patch.

[Moses Shuttlesworth]

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Question: I'm playing on xbox one and any time I score a nice goal a message pops up saying "game clip recorded." This message always gets in the way. How do I remove it?

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[BL8001]

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Between the beta/demo and now full game I am already sick of seeing the same type of goals go in.

I know which ones work for me and I know exactly what the cpu is trying to do. So once you are able to out think the cpu it gets stale quick.

I am not going to say what to do because I do not want to ruin the experience for anyone else.

But if you reach the point I have, any good scores this game gets plummet, because of the lack of goal variety and the unwillingness of the cpu to really try anything different than their initial strategy.

[fearwhatnow]

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Between the beta/demo and now full game I am already sick of seeing the same type of goals go in.

I know which ones work for me and I know exactly what the cpu is trying to do. So once you are able to out think the cpu it gets stale quick.

I am not going to say what to do because I do not want to ruin the experience for anyone else.

But if you reach the point I have, any good scores this game gets plummet, because of the lack of goal variety and the unwillingness of the cpu to really try anything different than their initial strategy.

I must be playing a different game then because I have scored 19 goals in 16 matches and not a single one was the same. I've conceded 24 and again all of them were varied.
Also every game was different. Last one against Chelsea at home, 15 min, WC, default sliders. Tactics 4-4-2, defensive approach with counter attacks. Final score 1-1. Chelsea made a sub in the halftime, in 54' and the last one in 66'. They changed their attacking approach 3 times in the game and finally I was able to finish the game 52%-48% in possession. Yes that's Leicester-Chelsea and I won the possession.
I agree that the cpu teams are not so varied but the smarter AI coding makes for some great games+the player abilities can make a huge difference in many situations. I don' believe you've managed to dominate the AI playing with a medium/low rated team. If you did put it in a spoiler and share it with us.
Oh! Their shooting stats were 20 shots, 8 on target.

[Hicksonite]

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Has anyone heard or experienced job offers in Manager mode yet? I like to start at a lower ranked team and work my way up to the bigger clubs but that has been impossible the last two years which led to me just doing a different MM every 3-4 years.

[fearwhatnow]

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For all of you on PC the ModdingWay mod/patch is ready. Version 0.5.2:

http://www.moddingway.com/forums/thread-28351.html

[BL8001]

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I must be playing a different game then because I have scored 19 goals in 16 matches and not a single one was the same.

It's a combination of 3 distinct things.

1. the cpu player with the ball is incapable of more than an A or B decision.
So if you deny the A choice, and hedge on the B choice, they will return to the A choice 99% of the time. I would type 100% but few things are 100%.

2. When you shoot, the legacy issue still remains of your attackers moving backwards immediately once the CPU touches the ball. Just watch any replay. It's incredibly annoying.

3. There are hot spots/methods for making the ball go in the goal. When the game is tied or within a goal it's incredibly hard to resist using the methods.

Don't get me wrong, I have stayed up until 2am since the game hit EA access/the full game hit stores playing it.

It probably is the best FIFA in awhile but the more you start to see the patterns in the AI the more the shine wears off.

[xicpanad]

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Has anyone heard or experienced job offers in Manager mode yet? I like to start at a lower ranked team and work my way up to the bigger clubs but that has been impossible the last two years which led to me just doing a different MM every 3-4 years.

I remember last year only had offers when some title was won, like Championship, cup or european competition.

[fearwhatnow]

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It's a combination of 3 distinct things.

1. the cpu player with the ball is incapable of more than an A or B decision.
So if you deny the A choice, and hedge on the B choice, they will return to the A choice 99% of the time. I would type 100% but few things are 100%.

2. When you shoot, the legacy issue still remains of your attackers moving backwards immediately once the CPU touches the ball. Just watch any replay. It's incredibly annoying.

3. There are hot spots/methods for making the ball go in the goal. When the game is tied or within a goal it's incredibly hard to resist using the methods.

Don't get me wrong, I have stayed up until 2am since the game hit EA access/the full game hit stores playing it.

It probably is the best FIFA in awhile but the more you start to see the patterns in the AI the more the shine wears off.

Sorry but I don't understand that. Ofc the cpu AI will have patterns as their attacking approach is based on algorithms that include formation, ability, momentum, time etc. The adaptive difficulty is by default on which means certain situations trigger in specific moments. Some might say it's scripted but that's the way the AI is programmed by EA devs.
That said, it doesn't mean the AI is boring. It's not boring because this time stats, abilities and individual ratings really matter. The AI is programmed to find the best pass to the open teammate. Example: Team AI Arsenal deploys plan A for attack according to their formation. Plan A is pass to player A->B->C->D-> Shoot. If you intervene somewhere on C they'll go straight to the D option if this player is not marked tightly/properly. If he is marked they'll go back to option A or B and start again.
I think what you're looking for is a freelance offense/attack like the last 2 NBA2k titles. This is not going to be implemented on FIFA unless EA Canada hires some pc coding experts who also have a big knowledge of the sport.

[BL8001]

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Ok yeah we are talking about the same thing.

When I say A or B I mean it in simpler terms of Dribble or Pass.

Spoiler

The pass option always relies on who is open, so if you first step towards the CPU denying the dribble they will think must pass, so if you then hedge towards who is open they will think, cancel pass, dribble and then you know what they are doing.

Spoiler

Same thing happens with a team who wants to exploit the wing runs, all you have to do is control whichever MF is on that side of the field and shadow the intended wing target. This means the cpu ball handler will turn and look inside, you can shade off the inside of the wing and bait the cpu into making that pass which you can then intercept

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At just about any point in the match the choice to control a ST and just track back as your cpu controlled D constricts like a boa eventually snuffing out the inevitable CPU O bad pass always works, this was a huge problem in the beta and while it's slightly been improved, despite many posts at EA's beta forum about this potential problem, it has not been fixed

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Which leads to the issue of it's pretty much always better to not play D and let your CPU controlled D deal with the CPU O

[SpritePuck]

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All video games have a programmed AI pattern. Some things will work other things will not. Side note NBA2K is no exception to this. There is no freelance anything. It is all, all things, in all video games a coded pattern.

If you want to play sports without a programmed AI pattern join a club and go play the actual sport.

[BL8001]

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Well, let's put it another way. We should be thankful the game is this close to good gameplay even though its very incomplete.

No practice mode
No highlights of the week
No match day games you can quickly choose from other leagues
Sparse tournaments in fut, 4 when we used to have over a dozen
A bizarre 1v1 arena which does not allow you to change camera, and only has a scoring system when you are the keeper and erroneously has the practice match options omitted (why?)
No weather/stadium chooser for online
A poor online friendly system which forces you all the way out to the games invite screen if you decide you dont like the teams kits you picked

Fear is in the air though because pc users at reddit are saying the latest patch changes gameplay...

The main problem is EA would rather trot this game out on a giant screen in a convention center and have two sweaty pace abusers punt the ball about and howl about ronny's bicycle kick goal than to show a dev playing the cpu and explain how widebacks now contain by relying on backside help and the sideline to keep wingers from threatening straight line runs down the wing.

All of these gameplay changes have nothing to do with offline players. Speed and LB+Y were nerfed to even out the fut playing field, it's also why they increased the level of the ai team mate defending.

These fut changes made the offline game better.

The bizarre thing here is fut gameplay vs the ai may be the best thing this game has going. The cpu can score on you in semi-pro. I am a cm and kickoff WC player so to see the cpu have teeth on semi pro is refreshing.

I am just so puzzled why this cpu tenacity was not brought into kickoff and cm.

This is a game that would bask in glory if you could set attacking and defending cpu AI skill level individually.

One thing is for sure, I dont see any other game have such wildly different AI across its different (in fifa's case 3) modes.

[SpritePuck]

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Nevermind I edited this because I do not care if other people dislike the game or buy the hype that the patch ruins it....

FIFA 16 plays as good as any other sports game ever made. And plays better than most. I am speaking offline Manager Mode from a sim aspect. I do not play online as it is not girl friendly at all... I do not play FUT because it is not sim. So, for the mode I play the game is great. The patch has not changed that.

Reddit will quit worrying about the patch when a celebrity's iPhone pics are hacked, fear not they will find something better to give false info on.

[silver_d]

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I have been reading a lot of the problems people having on FIFA I and I just want to give my view.
First of all I play on legendary with default sliders except:

CPU:
Pass error. 60
shot error. 53
FT. 60

I play on normal speed and 10 min halves, the reason for normal speed is that thats the only way to get the nice reaktions and animations, the game is made for playing on normal speed.

Sliders are only there if you finding the game to hard or easy. You can change the gameplay with sliders but why do you wanna mess with the programming, and if you do how can you complain on the AI?!
EA have made a great game with a very good CPU who plays in different ways every match depending on their and your tactic.

Next thing is that I have seen many complains about that FIFA is scripted.
Of course its scripted!! Its a videogame and EA wants us to have matches that not look the same every time. I say thank you EA for that! If it wasnt you would find a weakness on cpu and then you could use that every time.

And when it comes to actually playing on legendary its all about your tactics and approach. When CPU have the ball, Pressure them with your strikers, when they are in attack, be aggressive but hold your positions, its take a lot of training and the thing is to not tackle until you in the perfect position to do so.The reason that you players dont react the same when a ball get right next to them like they do in PRO is that it would be to easy to defend, now you have to be in control and cant rely on AI.

In attack you have to mix it up, and change tactic depending on who you up against. When you have a palyer with a lot of pace, make sure that you get 1on1 situations against a slow player, same goes with strenght. Play smart and mix up the tempo to get them confuse in CPU defense.

I have played almost one season with southampton this way and its been a fantastic one, I am not fully learned yet and are in 6th place at the moment.
The CPU plays with big variation. Chelsea are extremly hard to score on, and when you meet Sunderland you know that you can attack.
I have having three 0-0 games and some 4-0, all in all real life stats and goals.

So dont mess with sliders to much, use them to make the game easier or harder and you will get a great game!
Its all about how you play it. EA has nailed it, trust me. Thanks

[SeaTownGamer]

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All video games have a programmed AI pattern. Some things will work other things will not. Side note NBA2K is no exception to this. There is no freelance anything. It is all, all things, in all video games a coded pattern.

If you want to play sports without a programmed AI pattern join a club and go play the actual sport.

True but some games are coded better than others.