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  • GatorRican
    Rookie
    • Nov 2014
    • 128

    #1

    I play off ball Defense...all the time

    I am making a confession -- I play off ball D all the time.

    Am I less skilled? Maybe...
    Do I get more defensive stops? Yes...

    Maybe I stink on the sticks when it comes to D, but I still feel like it's really hard to guard someone how zig zags back and forth all the time.

    So I become the Center and play post D, rebound and help out.

    Am I a cheeser for doing that?


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  • smuhead
    Rookie
    • Aug 2010
    • 124

    #2
    Re: I play off ball Defense...all the time

    No, you're not a cheeser. Just your preferred playing style based on your skill level. However I won't play you just for that reason alone lol

    And the zig zag is not the bad that you can't guard someone for the better part of the game. Defenders get blown by, it happens. But that shouldn't mean you give up on trying to play your own defense all together.

    I respect a baller who tries, not a lazy baller who gives up because something is difficult.

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    • LemonHeart
      Rookie
      • Sep 2013
      • 129

      #3
      Re: I play off ball Defense...all the time

      Originally posted by smuhead
      No, you're not a cheeser. Just your preferred playing style based on your skill level. However I won't play you just for that reason alone lol

      And the zig zag is not the bad that you can't guard someone for the better part of the game. Defenders get blown by, it happens. But that shouldn't mean you give up on trying to play your own defense all together.

      I respect a baller who tries, not a lazy baller who gives up because something is difficult.
      you got it wrong bro...

      i respect him much more than you...

      there is nothing sim about players who pout about and avoid players who they

      cant abuse off the dribble...

      oooooh weeeee LOOK AT THAT, "i went left and he thought i was going right"

      if you cant thrive against competition that you have to outsmart from a different

      perspective, you arent playing basketball, your playing videogames...

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      • LemonHeart
        Rookie
        • Sep 2013
        • 129

        #4
        Re: I play off ball Defense...all the time

        Originally posted by GatorRican
        I am making a confession -- I play off ball D all the time.

        Am I less skilled? Maybe...
        Do I get more defensive stops? Yes...

        Maybe I stink on the sticks when it comes to D, but I still feel like it's really hard to guard someone how zig zags back and forth all the time.

        So I become the Center and play post D, rebound and help out.

        Am I a cheeser for doing that?


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        bro i been playin this game for a decade

        and in all honesty playin off ball is no different than controlling DB's on madden.

        you feel me ?

        its like a dude sayin if you dont control the d line your not sim.

        some dudes control the safety on d all game without judgement

        but on 2k it has become a taboo.

        and its only because non sim players dont take satisfaction in true strategy...

        the guys who fear your cpu are the actual noobs bro...

        a real baller will attack you anywhere on the court...

        my only suggestion would be to include offballing with all four defenders...

        and definitely tinker with player lock cam, key off, zoom 1, height 5....

        it is perfect for offball...

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        • Carboncoms
          Rookie
          • Jan 2015
          • 72

          #5
          Re: I play off ball Defense...all the time

          Originally posted by LemonHeart
          you got it wrong bro...

          i respect him much more than you...

          there is nothing sim about players who pout about and avoid players who they

          cant abuse off the dribble...

          oooooh weeeee LOOK AT THAT, "i went left and he thought i was going right"

          if you cant thrive against competition that you have to outsmart from a different

          perspective, you arent playing basketball, your playing videogames...
          No I think it's just that when someone wants to play online they'd rather be guarded than a human than a computer. That's why you play online. As for OP I don't think it's cheese if you play off-ball it's just that I'd rather play on ball because it's a more human vs. human experience.

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          • CameronMobley24
            Just started!
            • Oct 2015
            • 1

            #6
            Re: I play off ball Defense...all the time

            Ive also been lead to believe that players who prefer to play ppl who only play on ball defense are just going to abuse you off the dribble. playing lebron at the 4 spot so he can blow past to the opposing 4 man time and time again. if your looking to beat someone off the dribble... call a screen get a mismatch. thats sim

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            • UGJaelRose
              Rookie
              • Oct 2015
              • 16

              #7
              Re: I play off ball Defense...all the time

              Nope, you're not a cheeser. Its all preference I suppose. I feel I have greater control by playing on ball and can bait opponents into bad shots and turnovers easier.

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              • skettiNmeatballs
                Just started!
                • Oct 2015
                • 4

                #8
                Re: I play off ball Defense...all the time

                I prefer to play off-ball too. I have found over the last few years that all people do to human defenders is run back and forth and then act like they schooled you because you guessed wrong on the direction they were going.
                I also found that some of those people get pissed at you for then using the double-team button to stop their nonsense. Or I start running a heavy dose of fastbreak.
                To me nothing is more cheese than those that try to get a charge at the halfcourt line. GTFOH!!

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                • smuhead
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 124

                  #9
                  Re: I play off ball Defense...all the time

                  Originally posted by LemonHeart
                  you got it wrong bro...

                  i respect him much more than you...

                  there is nothing sim about players who pout about and avoid players who they

                  cant abuse off the dribble...

                  oooooh weeeee LOOK AT THAT, "i went left and he thought i was going right"

                  if you cant thrive against competition that you have to outsmart from a different

                  perspective, you arent playing basketball, your playing videogames...
                  First and foremost FOOL..

                  I never said I was sim. And I most certainly don't pout. I just don't play people like him. And assumingly people like you.

                  But your notion that "sim" players avoid certain people because they "can't abuse off the dribble" is very misleading and untrue.

                  So how can you tell anyone what's "unsim" if you don't know/understand what is sim?

                  If you want to know why I avoid players like you and him, then ask. Instead of pouting and being delusional to why certain players won't play you or him.

                  RESPECT THAT.

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                  • City_foxx
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 330

                    #10
                    Re: I play off ball Defense...all the time

                    This is why i love 5v5 team play. If your a terrible defender were going to find you. And were going to expose you. And your teamates are going to have a long talk after the game about recruiting your replacement.
                    Your playing checkers, and im playing chess-

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                    • LemonHeart
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 129

                      #11
                      Re: I play off ball Defense...all the time

                      Originally posted by smuhead
                      First and foremost FOOL..

                      I never said I was sim. And I most certainly don't pout. I just don't play people like him. And assumingly people like you.

                      But your notion that "sim" players avoid certain people because they "can't abuse off the dribble" is very misleading and untrue.

                      So how can you tell anyone what's "unsim" if you don't know/understand what is sim?

                      If you want to know why I avoid players like you and him, then ask. Instead of pouting and being delusional to why certain players won't play you or him.

                      RESPECT THAT.
                      "you dont play people like him"

                      is enough for me to categorize you...

                      you are the myplayer generation that inherently prioritize one on one play.

                      you avoid players whom you cant predict there location on the court.

                      you dont understand 5 on 5 basketball or truly appreciate the sport.

                      you have no plan of attack as a coach.

                      u said you dont respect lazy ballers !

                      well, it is intellectually lazy to not understand playcalling and how to take

                      advantage of your opponents style of play...

                      I took over 500+ losses last year, you cant tell me nothing about competition.

                      I enjoy losing and winning...

                      AND NOTHING IS MORE SATISFYING THAN WATCHING AN OFF BALLER

                      SCURRYING AROUND AND GETTING ABUSED !

                      you will never know what that feels like because your too scared to lose.
                      Last edited by LemonHeart; 10-15-2015, 02:00 PM.

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                      • smuhead
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 124

                        #12
                        Re: I play off ball Defense...all the time

                        Originally posted by LemonHeart
                        "you dont play people like him"

                        is enough for me to categorize you...

                        you are the myplayer generation that inherently prioritize one on one play.

                        you avoid players whom you cant predict there location on the court.

                        you dont understand 5 on 5 basketball or truly appreciate the sport.

                        you have no plan of attack as a coach.

                        u said you dont respect lazy ballers !

                        well, it is intellectually lazy to not understand playcalling and how to take

                        advantage of your opponents style of play...

                        I took over 500+ losses last year, you cant tell me nothing about competition.

                        I enjoy losing and winning...

                        AND NOTHING IS MORE SATISFYING THAN WATCHING AN OFF BALLER

                        SCURRYING AROUND AND GETTING ABUSED !

                        you will never know what that feels like because your too scared to lose.
                        Dude....(Sigh)...seriously. You just going to keep making a fool out of yourself in assuming you know how I play? Or anything about me? Just stop it. You sound so stupid. Like.....where are you coming up this stuff? lol.

                        After this, I won't respond to your foolishness anymore.

                        1. I don't play MyPlayer, never have, and NEVER will. I only play online against real users.
                        2. I avoid players who don't play their own defense. Can careless how you play.

                        I just literally said to myself, stop.
                        Dude you're not worth explaining anything to. You're clearly out of your mind.

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                        • LemonHeart
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 129

                          #13
                          Re: I play off ball Defense...all the time

                          Originally posted by smuhead
                          Dude....(Sigh)...seriously. You just going to keep making a fool out of yourself in assuming you know how I play? Or anything about me? Just stop it. You sound so stupid. Like.....where are you coming up this stuff? lol.

                          After this, I won't respond to your foolishness anymore.

                          1. I don't play MyPlayer, never have, and NEVER will. I only play online against real users.
                          2. I avoid players who don't play their own defense. Can careless how you play.

                          I just literally said to myself, stop.
                          Dude you're not worth explaining anything to. You're clearly out of your mind.




                          wimp...

                          i see u approach debates the same way u do basketball...by ducking competition

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                          • DC
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 17996

                            #14
                            Re: I play off ball Defense...all the time

                            Scum of the earth OP. Play on ball dude
                            Concrete evidence/videos please

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                            • DaPope13
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 304

                              #15
                              Re: I play off ball Defense...all the time

                              Originally posted by Carboncoms
                              No I think it's just that when someone wants to play online they'd rather be guarded than a human than a computer. That's why you play online. As for OP I don't think it's cheese if you play off-ball it's just that I'd rather play on ball because it's a more human vs. human experience.

                              lol human vs human experience

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