NHL 16 Available Today For Xbox One & PlayStation 4, Post Your Impressions

[speels]

Re: NHL 16 Available Today For Xbox One & PlayStation 4, Post Your Impressions

Just played a great game on Pro with the new tuner. I had a thought. When the AI locks on to you they never ever miss a check, and when you go to hit them at times they have that invisible wall around them.

SO, I put hitting assistance all the way up. I was able to stand them up and force them to dump the puck at the blue line a lot. And with hitting power down at 0 or 1 bodies aren't laying all over the ice.

The AI has that type of assistance, why shouldn't we? And what I saw with board battles, if you wanted to bump you had to hold the right stick and that would actually loosen the puck.

Going to play another one in a minute. But that seemed to help with their side stepping and their lack of dump. Because now they know we gonna get them with that much assistance. So they get rid of the puck. Give it a whirl.

Interesting. I am beginning to feel that Pro is the best gameplay, but you still need a little help with sliders. I just played on All-star with TNK's sliders and played the most amazing defense I have ever played. I was CLB against the Kings, anyway, they scored 4 goals in the first period on 1 shot!!!! 1 bloody shot!!!!! 3 of their goals were scored when I would stick lift or poke check the puck and it would slide through my goalies legs, I was pissed!!!

Anyway, I ended the game losing 6-1 and they had 8 shots. It also seems like if you have shooting accuracy on 1 as a human I either hit the goalie in the crest or miss the net, even on wide open in the slot chances, but over the course of a game I can count on 1 hand the number of times the CPU misses the net.

I think that is the big issue, when I aim all the way to the right, that makes the shot go outside the net, however the CPU never "over aims". the same thing with passing, they always seem to aim exactly where their player is, but if I am off by even 2 degrees my guys can't even get close to the pass.

One last thing, the human teammates are dumb, we all know that, but what I think the problem is is that the human CPU always wants their guys to be in the correct position, so when I take them out and release control, they immediately try to get them back to where it thinks they should be, all the time not actually paying any attention to what is actually happening on the ice.

The AI in this game is terrible, but at least your teammates should be as competent as the CPU players. The AI needs to be completely redone with more of a focus on what is going on and a little less on the Xs and Os. My players should look for the puck and not just play their "spot" on the ice.

I am taking a break from this game for a while, it's just so frustrating. In all honestly I am hoping for another patch or tuner just to change the crap that goes on with the ones we have now.

[shogunofharlem3]

Re: NHL 16 Available Today For Xbox One & PlayStation 4, Post Your Impressions

Give pro a whirl. I use default skating speed. 6 / 5 acceleration for human / ai. Bump up checking assistance to 5 or 6. The 2 games I played were really fun. No ice tilt, no cheapies.

I also put goalie reaction at 5 / 5 or 6/6 and screen effect at 0/0 or 1/1. That will help you eliminate those rediculous goals the ai scores.

[DJ]

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First game played in over 2 weeks (work travel) and you know, I had a very enjoyable experience. All-Star/Hardcore Simulation, 9-min. periods, no slider adjustments and the latest tuner update.

Avalanche (me) at Kings. Final: Colorado 3, Los Angeles 2 (OT). Shots were 42-40 in favor of the Kings. Avs had the advantage with possession of the puck in the offensive zone. Pass numbers were in the 70-80% range for both teams.

I've come to accept the legacy issues and just enjoy the game for what it is.

[robinson]

Re: NHL 16 Available Today For Xbox One & PlayStation 4, Post Your Impressions

[quote=jake19ny;2047775203]Fortunately I'm back to out of the box tuner and may be able to salvage a season after all. Sham check out my thread on my idea to get the good tuner back. Hopefully someone steps forward.



When you say default tuner, do you mean tuner-1.00


We have deleted everything on the main ps4 page and reinstalled the game to use the 'out of box' settings (which is with no patchs). Still have the option of tuner 1.00 or 1.01 (which is latest).


If you go to my sliders thread or Northmans slider page its posted on doing this.


I just downloaded the roster update and it said it did a gameplay update (patchs). Just to verify are any tuners newer than 1.00 and 1.01

[AdamJones113]

Re: NHL 16 Available Today For Xbox One & PlayStation 4, Post Your Impressions

One last thing, the human teammates are dumb, we all know that, but what I think the problem is is that the human CPU always wants their guys to be in the correct position, so when I take them out and release control, they immediately try to get them back to where it thinks they should be, all the time not actually paying any attention to what is actually happening on the ice.

The AI in this game is terrible, but at least your teammates should be as competent as the CPU players. The AI needs to be completely redone with more of a focus on what is going on and a little less on the Xs and Os. My players should look for the puck and not just play their "spot" on the ice.

I am taking a break from this game for a while, it's just so frustrating. In all honestly I am hoping for another patch or tuner just to change the crap that goes on with the ones we have now.

You are undeniably correct about CPU teammates being programmed to always go to their positions. This is apparent on a breakout. Say you bring the puck up the left wing with Crosby. LW Kunitz will go to his LW position, right around you, instead of heading to open ice. That's a problem. It's a similar thing on offense.

The game needs a freelance offense code like Da_Czar has brought to 2k. Players revolving, finding open space. In this game, the human has to control the cycle. The CPU teammates should be helping out.

[Fiddy]

Re: NHL 16 Available Today For Xbox One & PlayStation 4, Post Your Impressions

You are undeniably correct about CPU teammates being programmed to always go to their positions. This is apparent on a breakout. Say you bring the puck up the left wing with Crosby. LW Kunitz will go to his LW position, right around you, instead of heading to open ice. That's a problem. It's a similar thing on offense.

The game needs a freelance offense code like Da_Czar has brought to 2k. Players revolving, finding open space. In this game, the human has to control the cycle. The CPU teammates should be helping out.

When we could select "high impact, sim, hardcore" play style.. When using high impact the cpu teammates would go to where they should, played the system. When you played on the other ones, you were penalized. High Impact was almost like hockey for dummies and it played the best.

[actionhank]

Re: NHL 16 Available Today For Xbox One & PlayStation 4, Post Your Impressions

Interesting. I am beginning to feel that Pro is the best gameplay, but you still need a little help with sliders. I just played on All-star with TNK's sliders and played the most amazing defense I have ever played. I was CLB against the Kings, anyway, they scored 4 goals in the first period on 1 shot!!!! 1 bloody shot!!!!! 3 of their goals were scored when I would stick lift or poke check the puck and it would slide through my goalies legs, I was pissed!!!

Anyway, I ended the game losing 6-1 and they had 8 shots. It also seems like if you have shooting accuracy on 1 as a human I either hit the goalie in the crest or miss the net, even on wide open in the slot chances, but over the course of a game I can count on 1 hand the number of times the CPU misses the net.

I think that is the big issue, when I aim all the way to the right, that makes the shot go outside the net, however the CPU never "over aims". the same thing with passing, they always seem to aim exactly where their player is, but if I am off by even 2 degrees my guys can't even get close to the pass.

One last thing, the human teammates are dumb, we all know that, but what I think the problem is is that the human CPU always wants their guys to be in the correct position, so when I take them out and release control, they immediately try to get them back to where it thinks they should be, all the time not actually paying any attention to what is actually happening on the ice.

The AI in this game is terrible, but at least your teammates should be as competent as the CPU players. The AI needs to be completely redone with more of a focus on what is going on and a little less on the Xs and Os. My players should look for the puck and not just play their "spot" on the ice.

I am taking a break from this game for a while, it's just so frustrating. In all honestly I am hoping for another patch or tuner just to change the crap that goes on with the ones we have now.

I've been messing with my sliders, and hopefully I can get them tuned in next weekend. It's frustrating trying to find the right shooting accuracy. I tried slapshot accuracy around 1 and 0, and I don't think I had a single slapper hit the net or goalie. I want the occasional miss, but good lord, I was punishing glass all game.

[THESHAMISASHAME]

Re: NHL 16 Available Today For Xbox One & PlayStation 4, Post Your Impressions

Just got a gameplay update prompt but didnt read anything here or at EA ? anyone else get one ? If so it must have been a tuner over write as its still just V1:00 and latest .

[jr86]

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Can someone pls help me. I like to set all my lines for each team.. when i do a playoff mode, the lines stay the same..(Great).... However, when i start a season, the CPU adjusts all the lines for every team and screws it all up. Example, i want crosby with malkin on the same line, but then Malkin gets moved to 2nd line.

Is there a feature that'll keep my lines i originally made, or is the CPU always going to change them.



Thx.

Go to league settings/Rules and change Asst Coach Edits Lines to No.

[jake19ny]

Re: NHL 16 Available Today For Xbox One & PlayStation 4, Post Your Impressions

Go to league settings/Rules and change Asst Coach Edits Lines to No.

I think this only works for your team. If I'm understanding him correct he wants to set all teams lines and have them stay that way. The only way is to control all 30 teams in Season Mode otherwise your lines get messed up

[jr86]

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I think this only works for your team. If I'm understanding him correct he wants to set all teams lines and have them stay that way. The only way is to control all 30 teams in Season Mode otherwise your lines get messed up

You are correct.
I misread the q. I thought he was just trying to fix his own lines.

[jake19ny]

Re: NHL 16 Available Today For Xbox One & PlayStation 4, Post Your Impressions

oh ok, i get it now. thanks JR and Jake, too.

So the easiest way to do this is if i want to control Pens, i have to control all 30 teams and i can sim through every game on the calendar, then just play the pens, right? i will try this if there is no other way.. i just hope it don't take forever to sim every game.

thanks guys.

Its not messing up the lines of the team you control is it? That should not happen and if it is I'm going to be super pissed off....But if its not then yes control all 30 teams make sure you have the right amount of guys on the roster because you can only carry 23 and sim the games you don't want to play. They sim quick in fact I always do this as the Rangers and just go to my calendar and click play my next game and the other games sim fast. I always turn injuries off otherwise you get bombarded with injuries

[jr86]

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I just realized that it changes all lines of my controlled team too. I clicked on Pens to control.. I clicked Asst Edits lines, NO... and then i see Malkin's been moved to the 2nd line again. I have him with Crosby on the 1st line, but then when i go to View Lines, he's on the 2nd line. And this is before i even played game 1 of the season.

There has to be a way..

You have to be doing something wrong?
I have just chsnged my 4th line center to someone else and it is showing up fine in edit lines.
I started the game and the new guy is playing center on the 4th line.
I dont know why its not sticking for you...

[jr86]

Re: NHL 16 Available Today For Xbox One & PlayStation 4, Post Your Impressions

Jr,

If i edit my line, then save it in the season, it's great. But i made my own lines for each team, and then when i go check em, they've all moved. for example, i had Stamkos on the wing for TB, now he's Center taking faceoffs and stamkos is horrible at faceoffs. I scratched a few players from each team and now some are dressed.

Ok,gotcha.

We seemed to be talking about different things...my fault.

I see you are talking about setting the lines BEFORE you begin a season.
You are correct in that these changes will not stick as the cpu seems to pick your best lines even for human controlled teams.
You will have to begin a season with 30 team control, make your changes to all teams/lines and then you are good to go.

[THESHAMISASHAME]

Re: NHL 16 Available Today For Xbox One & PlayStation 4, Post Your Impressions

Been playing tons of games and lovin it on near Allstar default hardcore win or lose for a week now in playoff mode so heres a few more impressions and discoveries I made after the 9/28 overwrite tuners .
I believe for me I have one of two choices to bring back organic gameplay pre 9/28 and thats to make the cpu tougher on Pro or make the Cpu less boosted on Allstar or higher .

While I can create realistic gameplay at a slower pace on Pro It just doesnt do it for me challenge wise and with so much control I only had 1 penalty called on me in 9 games so to fix that I would have to destroy everything I created .

Now on Allstar hardcore default with penalties maxed I find the key slider for me is the cpu strategy slider ! at 3 clicks or higher all teams play the same almost in a boost mode especially when their behind but IMO keeping it lower like 1 click teams have more variance and play more to their attributes because they arent in constant boost mode .

Well just my two cents so if you play near default allstar and hate cpu laser fast ping pong passes and one timer goals while having no control , always losing board battles , cant get to loose pucks or pucks hopping over your stick look into lowering the CPU strategy slider.

I also like Attributes Effect at 4 clicks for now as I think it sets superstars apart a bit more at least scoring wise as my stats are very realistic and players like Ovie and Kaner really stand out as elite scorers after 15 playoff games .