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  • Rumplebeanskin
    Rookie
    • Sep 2012
    • 376

    #1

    Trading - At what point is it too much? Fun vs Realism

    Firstly, let me just say that I understand that how you play your game is your own business and everything is subjective. I get that and this isn't to judge, I'm just interested in the point of view of others who play MyGM, and potentially MyLeague as well.

    I started a game with the Thunder, I plan to move them to Seattle (original, right?!). By the end of season 1, my team looks as follows:

    PG Russell Westbrook
    SG Louis Williams
    SF Kevin Durant
    PF Derek Favors
    C Rudy Gobert

    Brandon Bass
    Mitch McGary
    Steve Adams
    Tyler Hansborough
    Brian Roberts
    Kent Bazemore
    Hollis Thompson
    Anthony Morrow
    Bryce Cotton
    Isaiah Canaan

    As I'm sure you'll agree, that's a long way from their original roster in real life. I always like to play a "realistic" game, but then I find that before I know it, I've completely turned a roster on it's head. In this case, it was to try and strip as much salary out of the Thunder's bottom line whilst still keeping them competitive. Similar rated players for significantly less money.

    So my question is how much trading do people do on their own games? Anything goes? Try to stay realistic? Any house rules to keep things within a limit? Do people think it taints a game when you can wheel and deal so easily? I guess the issue comes when you can see definitively through stats, attributes and potential that one player is better than another. Player A is better than player B, so make the trade.

    I don't think there's any chance that the Thunder roster in real life could ever resemble even half of the list above by season's end and I'm not sure if I'm fine with that or not! I am enjoying trying to get their expenses down so I can move them cross country though and that challenge is fun for me.
    Last edited by Rumplebeanskin; 10-21-2015, 11:58 AM. Reason: Context
  • iam31yearsold
    Banned
    • Apr 2015
    • 610

    #2
    Re: Trading - At what point is it too much? Fun vs Realism

    I used to never really trade anyone, but with this year's SS/Sim setting, I had to trade a ton to be competitive. Draft takes a few years, and FA can be hit or miss.

    I couldn't take another losing season so I blew up the team, traded almost everyone, and finally made the Playoffs.

    In conclusion, SS/Sim is so tough, you have to do anything you can to compete, in my opinion.

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    • freekbird
      Rookie
      • Nov 2009
      • 54

      #3
      Re: Trading - At what point is it too much? Fun vs Realism

      I just try and be realistic personally. For example in my hornets franchise I was offered Gobert for Marvin Williams and a 2017 second rounder...and also Gobert and Favors for Williams and big Al...there is no chance IRL that Utah would do that...

      I just play MyLeague and nullify any stupid trades and try and keep it real...if it makes sense for both teams, go for it

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      • Kully
        MVP
        • Jul 2007
        • 3181

        #4
        Re: Trading - At what point is it too much? Fun vs Realism

        I try to keep a mix of realistic and fair trades. I try not to trade for guys that the team would keep in real life, no matter how much they would help me as I feel guilty that I'm hurting the AI too much. Thus, Beal stays with the Wizards, Harrison Barnes with the Warriors, etc. These guys are generally available in free agency so I take my shot there (while giving the CPU the option to match which they never do, so I match manually).

        I try to overpay for any trades I make, so I tend to give up very valuable first round picks (like giving up a top 5 first for Tony Wroten). I also try to match the teams needs with whom I trade with: I don't need to give a team a good C if they already have 3 solid ones, I try to fill their holes as well.

        I do have some ground rules too:

        No matter how much I like Justise Winslow, I can't trade for any top 30 2015 picks. 2015 Second rounders are fair game.

        Don't trade for players recently signed to long contracts (Alec Burks, Khris Middleton, Jimmy Butler, etc).

        There are untouchable players for each team, players that I cannot trade for or sign no matter what (Andre Drummond)

        No more than 3 new rotation players in a given year due to trades. I can trade for guys that will sit on the bench with no minutes though.

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        • Tsuki
          Pro
          • Jul 2010
          • 637

          #5
          Re: Trading - At what point is it too much? Fun vs Realism

          Trading such a tough topic to handle...

          What is a bad trade? We all sort of know what one looks like but we tend to forget is that teams IRL make bad trades and your mygm/myleague should also contain a similar amount of bad trades for realism purposes.

          IMO a safe trade and or a good trade are actually rare in a sense that both teams got "better" as a result of the trade more along the lines that both teams got what they "wanted." But, even that is rare trades are a negotiation and with any negotiation there will eventually be a winner and a loser.

          To make sense of all of this I propose/approve trades with a story attached to it to make sense of the decision and let the outcomes decide the morality of the trade.

          Here is a trade I did in 2k13

          (Me)Thunder Russell Westbrook for Boston Celtics Rajon Rondo

          -As the thunder KD was becoming worried that westbrook and him dont have the chemistry on the floor to win long term. While both great players the GM decides that having more of a floor general at the point will give KD the space to create more and have more chemistry.

          -The celtics are desperate to get back on top and would love to have fresh start with a potential superstar in westbrook. While rondo has improved looking at him to be the primary scorer long term is just not in his talent wheelhouse.

          ^Looks like a dumb trade at first but give it context and things can either make sense or dont. I as the thunder went too meet the celtics in the finals that year and then the celtics improved in the offseason and won the finals the year after. I beat them in the 3rd year in 5 games.
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          • happy_accidents
            Rookie
            • Sep 2006
            • 80

            #6
            Re: Trading - At what point is it too much? Fun vs Realism

            I usually play multiple mygm saves. Until sim world releases their rosters I just have an anything goes mygm just to see how the league develops. I also try to hoard draft picks, then draft for teams because they can't do it right. My current Trailblazers have Lillard, Victor olidipo, Batum, tobias Harris, and nerlans noel.

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            • NDAlum
              ND
              • Jun 2010
              • 11469

              #7
              Re: Trading - At what point is it too much? Fun vs Realism

              I just try to look at it from the other team point of view. If I was then would I do it? If it's an easy no then I'm not touching it.

              I just go for reasonable.

              I take into account all aspects of the trade: age talent potential salary control salary relief what's their role...


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              • Raider131
                Rookie
                • Jan 2011
                • 343

                #8
                Re: Trading - At what point is it too much? Fun vs Realism

                Air on the side of super realistic. Before I make a trade I check team stats/injury list to see what teams need then try to make realistic trades based around that. Occasionally I make head scratching trades just to simulate some trades that don't make sense in real life.

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                • Ball2Win3
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2015
                  • 54

                  #9
                  Re: Trading - At what point is it too much? Fun vs Realism

                  I try to keep a mixture of both fun & realistic. Recently in one of my; MyLeague's with the Heat. Just made a trade for Drummond giving up Whiteside and first round pick along with other role players that I could develop for the future like Bullock.

                  Just try to view the trade if it makes sense. That trade probably won't happen in real life, but seems reasonable in the game which brings in the fun part.


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