Kicking Out of Pins - Too Easy..

[TJ Henderson]

My friends and I had an absolute blast with the game last year. Everything seems to have taken a step forward this year, with the exception of pins. While I like the new system, it is too easy to master. Most of our matches are now lasting indefinitely because no matter how much damage has happened, we have become good enough to kick out on the first or second rotation.
This is on legend difficulty.

On MyCareer I want to be able to lose without having to just lay down. I did not upgrade the Pin Escape trait and so it is stuck at 55, but it is still really simple. As for the rest of the game, it may be possible to lower Pin Escapes on everyone past 55, to be honest I don't know and I'll have to try later. This process is something that's tedious though and I would much rather there be a patch to simply up the difficulty in some way.

Is this even a possibility? Anyone else having a similar experience? It's borderline maddening because I want so badly to enjoy this game.

[marcuscouch10]

Re: Kicking Out of Pins - Too Easy..

My friends and I had an absolute blast with the game last year. Everything seems to have taken a step forward this year, with the exception of pins. While I like the new system, it is too easy to master. Most of our matches are now lasting indefinitely because no matter how much damage has happened, we have become good enough to kick out on the first or second rotation.
This is on legend difficulty.

On MyCareer I want to be able to lose without having to just lay down. I did not upgrade the Pin Escape trait and so it is stuck at 55, but it is still really simple. As for the rest of the game, it may be possible to lower Pin Escapes on everyone past 55, to be honest I don't know and I'll have to try later. This process is something that's tedious though and I would much rather there be a patch to simply up the difficulty in some way.

Is this even a possibility? Anyone else having a similar experience? It's borderline maddening because I want so badly to enjoy this game.

I agree and it's also very dumb that you don't need a finisher for resiliency it should go...

Resiliency Lv. 1 - You need a finisher to kick out
Resiliency Lv. 2 - You need a finisher to kick out
Resiliency Lv. 3 - You can kick out any time for one time

[Brandwin]

Re: Kicking Out of Pins - Too Easy..

I thought you had to have a finisher ready to use Resiliency?

[Hooe]

Re: Kicking Out of Pins - Too Easy..

I thought you had to have a finisher ready to use Resiliency?

This is correct.

Only Resiliency III doesn't require a finisher icon. Resiliency I and II both do.

[marcuscouch10]

Re: Kicking Out of Pins - Too Easy..

This is correct.

Only Resiliency III doesn't require a finisher icon. Resiliency I and II both do.

Ohh thanks for clearing up I never looked at it

[mcavner]

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Kicking out is too easy? I'm only a dozen matches in here but I haven't kicked out once... and I submitted to an armbar about fifteen seconds into my first match. I don't know what the hell I'm doing yet. ****

[UnOriginal]

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Kicking out is too easy? I'm only a dozen matches in here but I haven't kicked out once... and I submitted to an armbar about fifteen seconds into my first match. I don't know what the hell I'm doing yet. ****

I have no clue how to submit or break submission. submission are probably the only way ive been beaten. most of them happen randomly too.

[Steven547]

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Kicking out is too easy? I'm only a dozen matches in here but I haven't kicked out once... and I submitted to an armbar about fifteen seconds into my first match. I don't know what the hell I'm doing yet. ****

At work so I can't help too much right now. But check 2ksports website. There is a tutorial for submissions. Basically, MOVE the stick to the right or left, don't rotate. Check out that video...should help.

[Xixak]

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I'm not finding it easy at all lol. Having trouble getting through Showcase mode cause every time I get pinned dasitmane lol

[The 24th Letter]

Kicking Out of Pins - Too Easy..

Man I've lost matches after random pins in the first 5 minutes because I can't get kicking out down, lol

[bcruise]

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I house-rule myself to only kick out on 2 except on really early pin attempts and it works pretty well. I'm pretty good at it offline and am capable of kicking out on nothing but a pin escape bonus wedge. If I get finisher'd on my last health bar with no resilliency option, there's a pretty good chance I'm done for if it's a really small kickout wedge AND it moves to different spots on the meter for each count. It seems pretty on par with what the AI is capable of kicking out of, and what it's not.

Haven't played online so I can't speak to that. I'm sure the timing's a little different though.

[mcavner]

Re: Kicking Out of Pins - Too Easy..

How do you make resiliency activate?

[bcruise]

Re: Kicking Out of Pins - Too Easy..

How do you make resiliency activate?

Press triangle/Y during a pin. There's no timing aspect to it - the prompt just appears on screen during the pin and you press it for an instant kickout. For Lv1 and Lv2 Resilliency you need a finisher stocked. For Lv3 you do not.

It can only be used once a match on Lv1 and Lv3. Lv2 can use it twice (but it still requires a finisher stock each time).

The AI must play by these rules too - I've seen their finisher stock decrease when they kick out of a pin they probably shouldn't have otherwise.

[MJDrocks]

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Kicking out in this game is insanely easy. The only thing that this year's edition didn't improve on 2K15 was the kick-out system. Last year's felt a whole lot realistic and just better.

[Greene_Flash03]

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After playing more, I find this easy as well. Even after a signiture, I can kick out at 1. I'm sure it's patch-able though. After a signature, they should disable the kick out at 1 similar when your opponent unleashed a finisher on you.