Players That Need Fixing

[synistr]

List players here that need some sort of fixing/adjustment.

We discussed Reward Ray Allen in a previous thread. I would also like to add ROTY Dave Bing. He has all big man badges and no perimeter badges.

[freeagentwallace]

Re: Players That Need Fixing

lebron's passing ratings are criminal to me. he's one of the best passers in this era as well as the entire history of the game. how his passing accuracy and vision aren't in the 90s is beyond me. he can find a player anywhere on the floor with either hand.

[SpacialJones]

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i think Fat Lever needs to be tweaked a bit. He has all big man dunks for a guy with a what 40 dunk rating? And i can pull a dunk with him whenever i want. i dont like that to be honest.

Connie Hawkins, he has a relatively high dunk rating but he cant finish alleys with a dunk. Just layups. Which i find annoying because he's really a hidden gem once you learn his game. If he gets better alleys and a better dunk package. he'd be dangerous.

Also ive been opining for this since last year. Plays for new legends. Hawkins, Chapman (who's a silver beast and really cheap.) Jalen Rose, among others STILL have no plays in any playbooks. i wish they could just add them in. id love to run a fist play with hawkins as the screener. I can run some pick plays with him inside of 4-1 motion freelance but plays for these guys is really needed.

[synistr]

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lebron's passing ratings are criminal to me. he's one of the best passers in this era as well as the entire history of the game. how his passing accuracy and vision aren't in the 90s is beyond me. he can find a player anywhere on the floor with either hand.

Lebron has avg 7apg about 6 times in his career. he is close to 7apg this year. Jordan only avg over 7apg 1 time in his career. Yet nearly all of the Jordan cards in the game have better passing ratings than this year's Lebron. the only thing that is correct about Lebron is his passing IQ. so yeah, criminal.

[knick9]

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Definitely the bug this year that prevents guys like Sidney Moncrief from dunking in games like he does in freestyle mode.

The biggest problem is not enough badges for historical players.

They've always given Knicks Earl "The Pearl" Monroe one badge--Bank is Open--it never made sense. He was 28, still in his prime, All-Star caliber player, they won a championship. I mean he had his jersey retired by two teams, NBA top 50 player, and it wasn't because he was great at bank shots...

I'd be happy if they fixed him, just give him the badges they gave the Onyx Bullets version last year.

[freeagentwallace]

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Lebron has avg 7apg about 6 times in his career. he is close to 7apg this year. Jordan only avg over 7apg 1 time in his career. Yet nearly all of the Jordan cards in the game have better passing ratings than this year's Lebron. the only thing that is correct about Lebron is his passing IQ. so yeah, criminal.

oh there you go with pesky facts and truth again.

[synistr]

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Definitely the bug this year that prevents guys like Sidney Moncrief from dunking in games like he does in freestyle mode.

The biggest problem is not enough badges for historical players.

They've always given Knicks Earl "The Pearl" Monroe one badge--Bank is Open--it never made sense. He was 28, still in his prime, All-Star caliber player, they won a championship. I mean he had his jersey retired by two teams, NBA top 50 player, and it wasn't because he was great at bank shots...

I'd be happy if they fixed him, just give him the badges they gave the Onyx Bullets version last year.

tbh, I am sure they wont give him those badges. this is one of those cards thats really misleading and a bad representation. that card was based on his worst statistical season per game averages. (with the exception of his last year in the league) if you adjust his stats then he actually had a decent year.

whats funny is, 2kmtcentral shows the 1969 version and it is 79 ovr with the same one badge. has to be a mistake or 2k screwed that one up even worse than the Knicks card.

[synistr]

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oh there you go with pesky facts and truth again.

they may be doing that because they dont have out of position penalties so they keep those stats low so you cant play him at PG/SG. Teague and Harden have better ratings....even though they shouldnt.

[freeagentwallace]

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they may be doing that because they dont have out of position penalties so they keep those stats low so you cant play him at PG/SG. Teague and Harden have better ratings....even though they shouldnt.

Positional issues are easy to solve. drop all their ratings by 10-15 for playing out of position. boom. fixed.

[synistr]

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Positional issues are easy to solve. drop all their ratings by 10-15 for playing out of position. boom. fixed.

right. not sure why they havent implemented this.

[kabamaru]

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right. not sure why they havent implemented this.

No, that is not really the solutin. It is an easy fix, but that's about it. LBJ wouldn't just drop 10-15 points in passing vision or driving lay-up if he would play as PG. He would have much issues guarding the opponent PG running up and down, would have issues in ball control when pressured to protect it from shorter opponents, and would be more tired.

I am pretty sure however that also Magic in this era would play as a point forward but not as a clear PG.

THIS is what should be reflected in the game.

Out of position MAKES sense in real basketball. Draymond Green played Center in many games of the Finals and eventually won the ring.

PG 13 is playing PF in 50% of his minutes. I remember a thread here for NBA2k15 whre someone was playing him as PF and the unaminous accusation was that he was a "cheeser"
Durant started as SG in Sonics.

Sure, people will always try to find ways to exploit game mechanics, if 2k wants to produce a basketball "sim" as they claim they must focus on the gameplay pros and cons rather than nerf they players to counter "cheesing"

A clear example of the above is this year's "hesitation" of the ball carrier upon receiving a screen.

[freeagentwallace]

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No, that is not really the solutin. It is an easy fix, but that's about it. LBJ wouldn't just drop 10-15 points in passing vision or driving lay-up if he would play as PG. He would have much issues guarding the opponent PG running up and down, would have issues in ball control when pressured to protect it from shorter opponents, and would be more tired.

I am pretty sure however that also Magic in this era would play as a point forward but not as a clear PG.

THIS is what should be reflected in the game.

Out of position MAKES sense in real basketball. Draymond Green played Center in many games of the Finals and eventually won the ring.

PG 13 is playing PF in 50% of his minutes. I remember a thread here for NBA2k15 whre someone was playing him as PF and the unaminous accusation was that he was a "cheeser"
Durant started as SG in Sonics.

Sure, people will always try to find ways to exploit game mechanics, if 2k wants to produce a basketball "sim" as they claim they must focus on the gameplay pros and cons rather than nerf they players to counter "cheesing"

A clear example of the above is this year's "hesitation" of the ball carrier upon receiving a screen.

no its still an easy solution. it just takes due diligence on their part. most players cant be played out of position because it effects their entire game on both sides of the ball. future hall of famers are different. but they are still effected. just go in and make a decision on what will be effected and what wont but start with a template of -15 across the board. its really that simple.

and certain players have multiple positions they can play but not as well as their main position. so lower the effect from -15 to -10 or -5. again, its just that simple.

[synistr]

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No, that is not really the solutin. It is an easy fix, but that's about it. LBJ wouldn't just drop 10-15 points in passing vision or driving lay-up if he would play as PG. He would have much issues guarding the opponent PG running up and down, would have issues in ball control when pressured to protect it from shorter opponents, and would be more tired.

I am pretty sure however that also Magic in this era would play as a point forward but not as a clear PG.

THIS is what should be reflected in the game.

Out of position MAKES sense in real basketball. Draymond Green played Center in many games of the Finals and eventually won the ring.

PG 13 is playing PF in 50% of his minutes. I remember a thread here for NBA2k15 whre someone was playing him as PF and the unaminous accusation was that he was a "cheeser"
Durant started as SG in Sonics.

Sure, people will always try to find ways to exploit game mechanics, if 2k wants to produce a basketball "sim" as they claim they must focus on the gameplay pros and cons rather than nerf they players to counter "cheesing"

A clear example of the above is this year's "hesitation" of the ball carrier upon receiving a screen.

I somewhat agree but I do say players need to take that hit. No, his passing stats shouldnt, but at PG his BC and OBDIQ are two main ones that need to dip. While todays league is positionless, still players are more/less effective at some positions then they are at others. And whether Lebron is playing PG or C he has to take a hit in stamina because you know it has to take more energy to play those positions. I was just reaching as to why 2k may not have the best passing stats for him because they may have been focused on all the cheesing complaints. Doesnt make sense that they would do that but what other excuse do they have?

[QNo]

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AK-47 only has the scrapper badge.

[synistr]

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AK-47 only has the scrapper badge.

the badges this year are just bad all around. either not enough, missing, or uncharacteristic. they had a foundation last year and shouldve built on that but they didnt. some decisions were curious. like who decided to give Pierre Jackson 12 badges and give Earl Monroe 1?