EA Sports UFC 2 Features Revealed

[aholbert32]

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It was the same with me, when I went test Fight Night Champions. The build we played had excellent stamina, poor accuracy of strikes so not everything was landed clean, and the power gave you a fear of just letting the hands fly recklessly. I report on how great it felt and looked, then retail hits and its a arcade version of what we played.

Here is the issue:

Trying to make everyone happy.

For example, my goal is for the striking to be as realistic as possible and have real consequences. I want people who strike wildly and without purpose to get easily destroyed by people who are strategic and land heavy punches. When it comes to striking, I think realism is the goal of most of the gamechangers. I also believe that its the goal of the dev team.

The problem is the dev team doesnt have the final say in whats in the final product. Executives do. So here are the things that could cause a change in the game.

- If an executive plays the game and thinks that that its too easy to get KOd and striking is too difficult.

- If multiple reviewers say the same thing.

- Tons of online posters/casual fans say the same thing.

Thats why so many sports games (especially combat sports games) look drastically different after the first patch and subsequent patches. This is why you saw a ton of people post about how the Fight Night games were good at release and got worse after the patches.

With that said, I understand the tough position devs are in. Think about it in the perspective of your job. If you create something and your boss ask you to change something about it.....you are going to change it. You may object initially. You may try to convince them that the change isnt needed. But if your boss is adamant that change is needed, you are going to make that change. No one in their right mind is going to risk losing their job over something they dont own.

[Money99]

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It was the same with me, when I went test Fight Night Champions. The build we played had excellent stamina, poor accuracy of strikes so not everything was landed clean, and the power gave you a fear of just letting the hands fly recklessly. I report on how great it felt and looked, then retail hits and its a arcade version of what we played.

Yup. And then members like you and I look like fools because the game we spent praising for months is barely recognizable when the retail version drops.
It makes me wonder if EA purposely alters the game to adhere to the small collection of diehards that take part in these Community Days.
We go back to our respective sites/boards, report about how kickarse it is and get everyone in a fervour.
Then after said Leaders depart, EA flicks the switch and it goes back to being an arcady version for the masses of frat boys and 12 year olds that will wet themselves with frustration when they can't throw 100 punches in 4 seconds without draining their fatigue levels or getting countered and KO'd.

Sorry, I realize I'm coming across as a negative Nelly or bitter gamer, but I've read one too many reports from Community guys on several EA games over the past few years who experienced the same things you and I have.

I really hope I'm wrong. I really want to like UFC2. I'm not even a big MMA fan, but this game is dead centre on my radar and I'm just looking for excuses to pick it up.

[MLBUFC]

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Ironically, the opposite has tended to happen in every MMA game. The post patch versions are way better. I do agree that striking should mean more. I wish they could combine the fluidity of the striking in this game with the head movement, ground game and heaviness of shots of UFC 3.

If THQ could have lasted another year I think we would have had a killer game. But EA is doing ok.

[aholbert32]

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Ironically, the opposite has tended to happen in every MMA game. The post patch versions are way better. I do agree that striking should mean more. I wish they could combine the fluidity of the striking in this game with the head movement, ground game and heaviness of shots of UFC 3.

If THQ could have lasted another year I think we would have had a killer game. But EA is doing ok.

I dont know if I agree with that. UFC 3 didnt have a patch. EA MMAs patches were good for stopping some exploits but I recall many people thought the game at launch was more realistic. I dont recall the UFC Undisputed 2010 patch improving the game much but its been a while since I played that game so I could be wrong.

[MLBUFC]

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I dont know if I agree with that. UFC 3 didnt have a patch. EA MMAs patches were good for stopping some exploits but I recall many people thought the game at launch was more realistic. I dont recall the UFC Undisputed 2010 patch improving the game much but its been a while since I played that game so I could be wrong.

ufc 3 patch eliminated auto takedown guys like machida had amongst ther improvements. they did many patches sometimes eliminsting things done in previous patches. the final vesion was clearly the best.

[aholbert32]

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ufc 3 patch eliminated auto takedown guys like machida had amongst ther improvements. they did many patches sometimes eliminsting things done in previous patches. the final vesion was clearly the best.

I think you are remembering this wrong. The neve patched that game. They did a few ratings changes but that was it. The reason I remember this is because THQ promised a patch for months then abandoned the game once it was sold to EA.


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[MLBUFC]

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I think you are remembering this wrong. The neve patched that game. They did a few ratings changes but that was it. The reason I remember this is because THQ promised a patch for months then abandoned the game once it was sold to EA.


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ok...it must have been another game that I played endlessly. It must have been another game where Machida had a trip takedown that people spammed online. It must have been another game where when Frank Mir switched to orthodox stance he had that trip too. Must have been another game where the made patches that changed stamina. At best I am remember UFC 2010 that combined with the re-rates means my original point of patches improving MMA games is correct. Frankly, I don't even count EA MMA. That was barely a real game. It is clear that EA UFC has taken more cues from UFC Undisputed than that abomination of EA MMA. Hmmm... Or maybe someone in this thread just likes to hear themselves talk.

[aholbert32]

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ok...it must have been another game that I played endlessly. It must have been another game where Machida had a trip takedown that people spammed online. It must have been another game where when Frank Mir switched to orthodox stance he had that trip too. Must have been another game where the made patches that changed stamina. At best I am remember UFC 2010 that combined with the re-rates means my original point of patches improving MMA games is correct. Frankly, I don't even count EA MMA. That was barely a real game. It is clear that EA UFC has taken more cues from UFC Undisputed than that abomination of EA MMA. Hmmm... Or maybe someone in this thread just likes to hear themselves talk.

See sometimes its just better to admit that you are wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRzihb8nj4

http://kotaku.com/5933433/if-your-ga...r-it-a-warning

There are several other links that confirm that a patch for UFC 3 was never released. They did release stat updates but that was it for UFC3. So you are misremembering something about the game you played "endlessly."

Your original point was that every MMA game has been improved by patches. I refrenced the actual MMA games and said that actually only 2 were improved and both of those were bad games at release (UFC 2010 and EA UFC). Now if you want to make a broad point and then ignore whole games in the genre like (EA MMA) that dont support your point, thats fine. Its a poor way to support your argument but youve done a poor job of that since joining this site.

[MLBUFC]

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Point is patches have worked. I don't have energy to argue every tangential point. I am glad we had this dialogue. A one point I took your perspective as that of a well informed intelligent insider. You have made it clear I was wrong about that. You seem to like to hear yourself talk.

[aholbert32]

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Point is patches have worked. I don't have energy to argue every tangential point. I am glad we had this dialogue. A one point I took your perspective as that of a well informed intelligent insider. You have made it clear I was wrong about that. You seem to like to hear yourself talk.

Youve made it clear that you arent interested in intelligent discussion and dont have the ability to take part in it. Like I said before, sometimes its better to just admit that you are wrong. People that come to this site arent dumb. They can read your posts.

Its simple. You said patches worked for every MMA game. I countered with refrences to mma games that patches havent improved. You then decided to make up information (like UFC 3 had a patch) or eliminate games that dont fit your point (EA MMA).

Lets not complicate it man because its a simple argument. You can throw any insult you want because people can see its just you being stubborn because you dont have the ability to take part in this discussion in an intelligent manner. Its cool though. I'll keep posting and I'm sure you'll keep making bad arguments. Or you wont and you will disappear from this part of the site. Doesnt bother me either way.

[MLBUFC]

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Youve made it clear that you arent interested in intelligent discussion and dont have the ability to take part in it. Like I said before, sometimes its better to just admit that you are wrong. People that come to this site arent dumb. They can read your posts.

Its simple. You said patches worked for every MMA game. I countered with refrences to mma games that patches havent improved. You then decided to make up information (like UFC 3 had a patch) or eliminate games that dont fit your point (EA MMA).

Lets not complicate it man because its a simple argument. You can throw any insult you want because people can see its just you being stubborn because you dont have the ability to take part in this discussion in an intelligent manner. Its cool though. I'll keep posting and I'm sure you'll keep making bad arguments. Or you wont and you will disappear from this part of the site. Doesnt bother me either way.

I can only have intelligent conversations with intelligent people. It's simple...mma patches have been successful. I have given examples. You seem to not be able to understand this because you are interested in some personal war. It's ok man you win. Maybe you feel silly cuz of the universe mode argument. Or maybe I made you feel not as cool as you think you are because I have made your knowledge suspect. It's ok dude I don't think EA will take your game changer card. I am sure that was a highly competitive process

[aholbert32]

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I can only have intelligent conversations with intelligent people. It's simple...mma patches have been successful. I have given examples. You seem to not be able to understand this because you are interested in some personal war. It's ok man you win. Maybe you feel silly cuz f the universe mode argument. Or maybe I made you feel not as cool as you think you are because I have made your knowledge suspect. It's ok dude I don't think EA will take your game changer card. I am sure that was a highly competitive process

Lol. Personal war? I don't know or care about you. I'm just saying you changed your argument. That's cool as long as u recognize that. You said EVERY Mma patch was an improvement and you lied to support your argument.

I don't know how you made me look silly in the universe mode thread. You pretty much conceded that argument.

[MLBUFC]

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Lol. Personal war? I don't know or care about you. I'm just saying you changed your argument. That's cool as long as u recognize that. You said EVERY Mma patch was an improvement and you lied to support your argument.

I don't know how you made me look silly in the universe mode thread. You pretty much conceded that argument.

You care so little that you keep responding. You care so little you are searching for silly articles to attempt to make a point. Who are you trying to convince?

Anyway my point was every mma patch has been effective. I gave examples....not sure what angle I changed. Could be that reading comp problem of yours resurfacing again. Made u look silly in universe convo cuz you pointed out how every current gen combat sports title has universe mode

[aholbert32]

EA Sports UFC 2 Features Revealed

You care so little that you keep responding. You care so little you are searching for silly articles to attempt to make a point. Who are you trying to convince?



Anyway my point was every mma patch has been effective. I gave examples....not sure what angle I changed. Could be that reading comp problem of yours resurfacing again. Made u look silly in universe convo cuz you pointed out how every current gen combat sports title has universe mode

Yeah those reading comprehension skills strike again for you. If u read the universe mode thread again, my point was only one combat sports game has ever had a universe mode. I wasnt talking just about current games. That's why I mentioned fight night and combat sports games made by 2k. That's also why your point about wwe being the only other current combat sports game was a non point because i was talking about every combat sports game ever released.
That's why i didn't even respond to that point because it was clear u didn't read my response correctly.

Also if you consider goggling "UFC 3 patch" and "opinions can't be wrong" as caring a lot, that shows u care very little about anything. Because U can't be bothered to even look up information to make sure u aren't talking nonsense and stating incorrect information.

You should probably take the time to carefully read a post before responding. Just another tip for you. Read and understand the post before responding. That along with stop saying opinions can't be wrong. Lol.

[MLBUFC]

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Yeah those reading comprehension skills strike again for you. If u read the universe mode thread again, my point was only one combat sports game has ever had a universe mode. I wasnt talking just about current games. That's why I mentioned fight night and combat sports games made by 2k. That's also why your point about wwe being the only other current combat sports game was a non point because i was talking about every combat sports game ever released.
That's why i didn't even respond to that point because it was clear u didn't read my response correctly.

Also if you consider goggling "UFC 3 patch" and "opinions can't be wrong" as caring a lot, that shows u care very little about anything. Because U can't be bothered to even look up information to make sure u aren't talking nonsense and stating incorrect information.

You should probably take the time to carefully read a post before responding. Just another tip for you. Read and understand the post before responding. That along with stop saying opinions can't be wrong. Lol.

I am going to be honest...I am only skim what you write. You are posts are mainly filled with non-sense and I don't have the patience.

Btw...is this you not caring. Respond this post so I can see how much you don't care. Seriously, I would hate to see who they DIDNT take as a game changer if you made the cut. I thought the topic was on the features of the game...not on how cool you think you are. Great job representing this site btw