NHL 16 Revamped Rosters - What It Would Have Been

[Simple Mathematics]

Hey everyone. As you all know, roster sharing is not an option this year. However, at the bottom of this post is a link to a Google spreadsheet with all of my NHL level forward rankings and overall ratings for each of them. I invite all of you to view them and provide your comments and criticisms. My ratings are based largely on this year's statistics so far, with previous years' statistics also coming in to play.

I want to make this a sort of community project. I want everybody's feedback and I will tweak the list. At the very least, hopefully a gamechanger could bring this up to the devs at one of their meetings. This would help give that ever elusive player separation that many of us are looking for.

When providing your feedback, please remember a few things. Please do not be a "homer" when commenting on a player(s) rating. Just because you like the Blue Jackets doesn't mean that every player on their team deserves an overall rating in the 90's. So try your best to be unbiased and to base your comments off of statistics. Also, please keep in mind EA's formula they use to determine the overall rating. A player who is good at shooting will typically have a higher overall than a player who is just good at faceoffs.

So please, once again, take a look at the link below and let me know your opinions!

(Defensemen and goalie rankings are to come)


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...t#gid=48081641

[azy19]

Re: NHL 16 Revamped Rosters - What It Would Have Been

Crosby is way too high, even with his old accomplishments sharing the number one spot is a bit too much.

Even though I might be biased on this one I think Kuznetsov deserves an 88 ovr(my heart's telling me 89). He has a really good read of the game and has had a really good season so far. He has the least toi/g out of the the top 10 in points, 1 min and 15 sec after the 2nd to last.

[Simple Mathematics]

Re: NHL 16 Revamped Rosters - What It Would Have Been

Crosby is way too high, even with his old accomplishments sharing the number one spot is a bit too much.

Even though I might be biased on this one I think Kuznetsov deserves an 88 ovr(my heart's telling me 89). He has a really good read of the game and has had a really good season so far. He has the least toi/g out of the the top 10 in points, 1 min and 15 sec after the 2nd to last.

Thanks for the comments!

Yeah I want to get more opinions on Crosby. This is his first down year, and it's likely that it won't remain a down year. When you watch him it's not like he's lost it. He's a tough one, anyone else have an opinion?

And players like Kuznetsov, Draisaitl, and Hoffman are tough to gauge. It's their first year doing really well so I don't want to rate them too high. But still, they are absolutely lighting it up this year, so maybe they deserve higher. What does everyone else think?

[Cletus]

Re: NHL 16 Revamped Rosters - What It Would Have Been

Thanks for the comments!

Yeah I want to get more opinions on Crosby. This is his first down year, and it's likely that it won't remain a down year. When you watch him it's not like he's lost it. He's a tough one, anyone else have an opinion?

And players like Kuznetsov, Draisaitl, and Hoffman are tough to gauge. It's their first year doing really well so I don't want to rate them too high. But still, they are absolutely lighting it up this year, so maybe they deserve higher. What does everyone else think?

You certainly know tons more about EA's rosters than I do, but if you give the young guys lower awareness (and poise) ratings while still keeping the physical(SP, SA, Speed, etc.) rather high wouldn't it balance out the ratings?
Crosby shouldn't lose a lot based on one quarter of a bad season. Maybe -1 or -2 offensive awareness. If Crosby gets dinged then so should Stamkos. I would say Crosby is still as good (talent wise, not numbers wise) as Backstrom and Getzlaf and better than Krejci.

Hoffman seems kind of high, not sure if he should be higher than Bobby Ryan. Although the amount of Sens games I have seen is close to zero.

As far as homer picks, Palat should be ranked higher. He's the best two way player of the triplets and with Tyler Johnson having issues this season, might be the best of all 3. Palat's numbers have taken a hit due to his injuries. Right now, Johnson may be the worst of the Kucherov/Palat/Johnson line.

[jdl24]

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[Efbomb]

Re: NHL 16 Revamped Rosters - What It Would Have Been

Thanks for this.

I think that maybe you should take into account people's homer suggestions. Only if they're reasonable, of course. There may be some intangibles concerning certain players that only fans of their teams would know.

Like the Rangers.

I would suggest a little boost to Dominic Moore. Like up to a 66. Same for Jarret Stoll as they're similar players. As far as Emerson Etem, he has a lot of potential, but hardly ever plays. He prob should be in the 65-64 range.

[Simple Mathematics]

Re: NHL 16 Revamped Rosters - What It Would Have Been

Thanks for this.

I think that maybe you should take into account people's homer suggestions. Only if they're reasonable, of course. There may be some intangibles concerning certain players that only fans of their teams would know.

Like the Rangers.

I would suggest a little boost to Dominic Moore. Like up to a 66. Same for Jarret Stoll as they're similar players. As far as Emerson Etem, he has a lot of potential, but hardly ever plays. He prob should be in the 65-64 range.

I am taking any and all suggestions. You gave great examples of very useful "homer" suggestions. Thank you very much, and I will definitely utilize them.

The "homer" suggestions I won't take into consideration are the ones like "Dude Stephen Gionta deserves higher!! He's the best penalty killer EVER and would score 100 goals if he got more ice time! He deserves a 92 overall! GO DEVILS!!!"

[Simple Mathematics]

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For those who are interested, I am ranking the defensemen in the Google doc right now. You can come check it out and watch as the rankings go up. Just go to the link in the first post. Again, not sure if anybody would even be interested in this. Just letting you guys know.

Let me know if there is interest in this sort of thing and I will try to post in advance when I will be putting up the goalies and editing the overall ratings. I will try to update the rosters once every two weeks to keep things current.

[TNKNGM]

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Rosters should be done exactly like MLB The Show handles them

Use a 3 year average for players to determine their ratings.....if a guy sucked in 2014 but was great in 2015 - he should be in the 80's for example

Implement roster sharing......use the vault system like The Show....player vault, orster vault, slider vault, etc

Maybe a goalie equipment vault?

I love that they have added some goalie equipment this year after release.....we need more of that and they need to be more accurate with the equipment - especially color schemes

More goalie masks.....give us 3 or 4 choices per team instead of just 2 masks.....if you can't get the authentic masks in the game - maybe go for a look similar to the masks worn by at least the top 20 or so goalies.

[Efbomb]

Re: NHL 16 Revamped Rosters - What It Would Have Been

Rosters should be done exactly like MLB The Show handles them

Use a 3 year average for players to determine their ratings.....if a guy sucked in 2014 but was great in 2015 - he should be in the 80's for example

Implement roster sharing......use the vault system like The Show....player vault, orster vault, slider vault, etc

Maybe a goalie equipment vault?

I love that they have added some goalie equipment this year after release.....we need more of that and they need to be more accurate with the equipment - especially color schemes

More goalie masks.....give us 3 or 4 choices per team instead of just 2 masks.....if you can't get the authentic masks in the game - maybe go for a look similar to the masks worn by at least the top 20 or so goalies.

I've been asking for roster sharing for years on EA's forums. That's what makes a game like The Show great. Being able to DL teams from the 60's adds a lot of fun and re-playability. I'm still playing baseball, even though the season ended over a month ago.

Another thing I've asked for over the years is a goalie mask editor.

It's so simple too. It can be exactly like the pads. Give us 4-5 templates where we can change the zone colors and maybe be able to add a team logo to the crown and I'll be extremely happy.

[actionhank]

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I've been asking for roster sharing for years on EA's forums. That's what makes a game like The Show great. Being able to DL teams from the 60's adds a lot of fun and re-playability. I'm still playing baseball, even though the season ended over a month ago.

Another thing I've asked for over the years is a goalie mask editor.

It's so simple too. It can be exactly like the pads. Give us 4-5 templates where we can change the zone colors and maybe be able to add a team logo to the crown and I'll be extremely happy.

I played The Show 13 until my PS3 died a few months ago. The game stayed great, and I could still get consistent roster updates. But, unlike EA's outings, I would have gladly bought the newest release, because they add nice features.

[Simple Mathematics]

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Defensemen ratings are completed. Disclaimer: these are based on stats a few weeks old. I will get all players (forwards, defensemen, goalies) updated after I get the goalie ratings completed.

Let me know what you guys think.

[StLHokie]

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Just glimpsing over your defensive ratings, I would say that some of them are quite a bit off. Giordano's rating is much too low. As a Blues fan, he is definitely better than Bouwmeester. Brodie is also a bit lower than I would have him. Letang seems high to me, Shattenkirk is likely the best comparable to him, with Letang being slightly better. I'm not sure what Doughty has done to warrant the highest rating in the game. Since the Kings made the finals, he hasn't really shown any consistent ability to be considered undoubtedly the best. I'd have Kieth as the best, followed by Karlsson, and then Weber and Doughty.

The folks over at HF boards often rank the defensemen over the course of a few weeks one by one. This is what the current rankings are looking like. I would imagine that your ratings should reflect these rankings relatively closely since you are rating players by overalls rather than individual attributes right now.

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1998217

[Simple Mathematics]

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Great resource. I had no idea they did that over at HFBoards. I'll definitely check it out. Thanks a lot man.

As for Giordano - their whole team is a mess. They are all having down years, Giordano included. Last year he was a monster though so I have to account for this. The Flames were supposed to have one of the best defenses in the NHL this year, but they are finding themselves in the league's basement for goals against per game. Ouch.

As for the top 4 defensemen, I could agree about flip flopping Keith and Doughty, and I'd definitely have Weber as #2 or 3, but I'd put Karlsson below them. In my opinion, those other 3 play a bit more of a complete game than Karlsson. However, Karlsson does have the ability to play a better defensive game - he can actually be a solid PK guy - it's just that management/coaching has him heavily leaning towards his offensive game.

I will take those rankings into consideration though and revise the ratings. I will probably do the goalies first so I can have everything completed first. Then I will revise every player based off of recent performance and the comments I receive in here.


EDIT: I adjusted the defensemen ratings. Check them out and tell me what you think.

[StLHokie]

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The top 20 or so look a lot better. Beyond that, I can't really speak too much since I just don't see enough of the other guys plays, other than St. Louis. With regards to that team, I think the top 4 look good, but I think Edmundson should be dropped a bit to be more on par with Lindbohm and Bortuzzo. As it currently stands, Lindbohm is getting the games over the other two. Edmundson was sent back down to the minors, and Bortuzzo is usually the guy in the press box. But this changes relatively often, so I'd have all 3 of them in that 67-68 range.

As for forwards, the ones that stick out as being a bit too high would be Stamkos and Toews. Since being separated from Martin St. Louis, Stamkos has produced at a much lower clip, and is currently on pace for the worst season since his rookie year.

Toews is clearly a good player and deserves a high ranking, but I find it difficult to say that he is currently the best forward in the game. He has elite two-way play, for sure. But he can't hold a candle to the top scorers in the league right now such as Seguin, Tarasenko, or Benn. I'd drop him to about a 93 honestly. Also, I may be biased since I am a Blues fan... As a counterpoint, Kopitar is an 89 overall on your rosters, but he and Toews are virtually the same player. Kopitar just gets significantly less publicity.