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  • mjt844
    Just started!
    • Feb 2016
    • 3

    #91
    Biggest pet peeve for 2K16.

    "Gameplay is fine " Are you guys f****** serious ???
    All I see are massive errors in gameplay .

    Solid Objects/Solid Players :
    Heres an idea 2K. Make all the players solid. Make the backboard solid. Make the coach solid. Make the bench chairs solid. Make the Refs solid . Make the cheerleaders solid. Make the mascot solid and so on.
    I know you have to use low poly 3d models for gaming , if you can incorporate resistance in the game through the controller , then you should be able to make everything in the game more realistic in reality. Other game developers have managed to do it successfully.

    This is the only sporting game I know of where my opponent can get a clear shot at the basket through my head , chest , arm ..or be able to block my shot with a hand through the backboard , rim .

    And now to add insult to injury in the latest version they ensured at the offensive end , opponents become rigid and therefore produce turnovers whilst Im dribbling and driving to the basket . Also the defensive movement is to also cover my shooting hand . As in run through it.

    Offensive basket / Goaltending
    Is it just me or is this just gone to a whole new level of stupid !! Ive clearly Blocked shots heading up into the basket . Grabbed clear Rebounds that have come up off the rim . Add to this my hand or fingers passing through the ball.
    Whistle blows !! Come on 2K . Fix the problem ..

    Dribbling :
    Clear uncontested drives through the lane for a dunk or layup to be dragged 10 feet across the court or into a pack of opponents.

    Yoyo Ball :
    In 16 there are far more instances of balls doing the most bizarre things. Turning at right angles .Clearly heading out of bounds but doing a magic bullet and ending up in an opponents hand.
    Being bounced forward but going backwards . Bouncing through defensive players on fast breaks but coming back to players dribbling hand .

    Steals :
    Ive also noticed a clear disadvantage created in stealing the ball. On the defensive end . Opponents pass the ball chest to head height . Eliminating the prospect of a steal .
    The direct MyPlayer response is to always move low . Also pressing steal sends you in motion 1/2 way down the court .
    Whereas on the offensive end , all the defensive players become rigid and put hands and arms out .

    Speed/ Reaction time :
    I have to say the reaction time for MyPlayer is rubbish!!. When on defense players darting up down left right . In a lot of cases opposition players with same height weight are outrunning and out manouveuring me . Also running down the court is ridiculous. Rookie players 7'2 360 lbs running faster than 6'6 210lbs SG. Defensive players mirror your every move whereas its a struggle to do the same on defense. Now we can add , defensive opponent running ahead of you.

    Coaching Grade :
    I think this either needs an overhaul or piss it off completely. There are numerous instances throughout a game where Im given a directive , Offensive or Defensive where Ive already done a considerable amount . "Score when you get the chance " . As an example , as a SG Ive usually gotten 10 , 15 , 20 points in the quarter to be given a Coach grade at the end of C+ or even D or F . At this stage Im being double teamed so Ill pass the ball for Assists. Again in defensive mode the same is true . "Play hard defense ". Ill always pick up a steal or a block or two , but the Coach returns C , D or F .

    AI in Commentary :
    You get used to hearing the same comments game in game out . I like the Half-Time show with Ernie and Shaq. But at least include correct statistical reporting of the previous season. Ive swept teams . 4 - 0 , 3 - 0 , 2 -0 . To be told last season we lost the series 1 - 3 . Include some highlights like 13 did.

    Footnote :
    I think for a really enjoyable gaming experience its about getting the simple things right and 100% before you incorporate major changes. In this instance I have to give 2K16 a 4/10 . Because there are some serious gameplay issues from previous releases that havent been addressed . Animations are slightly better as are the graphics. But MyCareer outside the 4 games in College was crap !

    NBA 2K17
    I would hope the developers really sit down , work on and fix these long standing issues. Improve the 1 on 1 play offensive and defensive and get rid of the transparent player problems. Also human movement and reaction . Because its way off .
    As for the MyCareer. 16 was a load of racist crap!!! . Freq Vibrations Im mean seriously!!
    Basketball is now a fully International Sport as is the NBA. You only have to look at the 14 and 15 Draft Class to realise its dominated by Europeans , Australians , Asians etc .
    So MyCareer should reflect this . Not everything associated with the NBA comes out of the US or is African American for that matter.
    MyCareer should have an International direction. I like the College entrance scheme . MyPlayer should be created , enter college but develop the skills during this time . Play a full College season before the draft.
    Include more Season relevant cut scenes . Rivert back to 2K15 for Agent interaction. And 2K14 for Coach interaction. You should be able to influence the makeup of your team . Include more oncourt cut scenes . Talking to opponents during the game even . A fight ! A scuffle . Include Olympic years as well as FIBA Championships.

    But most importantly , be able to play out your Rookie Season . The last 3 Editions weve had - 8 games in the Season , be free agent drafted with 28 games left or wait on the bench until you get game time .

    Last but not least more interaction during a game. Half time or huddle . Use the pie chart scenarios to chose directions for the game . " youre 4 points down , 46 sec on the clock " ... etc etc .

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    • theflyesthoopa01
      Rookie
      • Sep 2015
      • 9

      #92
      NBA 2K16: Biggest Pet Peeve?

      1. MYGM trade scenarios are wholly unrealistic and have nothing to do with basketball logic.

      2. Guaranteed momentum shifts: if a guy can't score against me who cares if I beat him by 100 points. Don't go and let this guy have a stretch of three straight contested threes made by guys who shot 20% from deep while I miss consecutive wide open threes with Steph and Klay.

      3. Stop lying about the CPU IQ. It's not universal. It only benefits the CPU. My teammate CPU's have no idea how to play basketball. I don't care if I quadruple team the man with the ball, you don't leave the man one pass away open to go guard someone on the other side of the floor. Nor should I play good defense for 23 seconds only for the game to warp my man wide open for a perfect release before the shot clock buzzer.

      4. LOL at all perfect releases not being an automatic bucket but the CPU doesn't miss open shots. Ever. Hardly any shots for that matter. Doubled, tripled, hell I've even blocked several shots, got credit for the block and teammate grade but the shot doesn't even change trajectory and goes straight into the basket unimpeded. I think my favorite is playing good D, knowing you played good D and even getting the good defense teammate grade boost but the CPU has no problem scoring the ball. But the same moves don't have the same effect the other way lol guys who can't guard their shadow stay with you move after move. Six crossovers and two screens but JJ Redick stays with you, rips you clean and goes the other way. Said nobody ever.

      5. NUMBER ONE PET PEEVE: 2K tweaking things for the worst 2K players ever. I knew this game was going to crap when people started complaining about players like KD/Steph "making everything or making incredible shots" and suddenly 2K patches the game to calm the trolls, meanwhile, players don't even play like themselves anymore. Stephen Curry is a below average jump shooter on 2K because they've patched his shot so much. I could've sworn the initial reason for the patch-ability was to continue to improve the realness of the game. Not to aid the guys who suck and want an even playing field with folks like myself who've been playing 2K since day one and played basketball most of their lives. Sorry Ronnie. Sometimes people are just that much better than you.

      6. Honestly can't believe anyone at 2K sports has ever played basketball because players run away from the ball and the pass more than they meet it. If a defender decides to make a play it's almost as if they give them the lane and allow them the path to the ball. And my favorite is when you pass the ball to a guy and one of your other teammate's walks directly into the path of your path and brings his defender. Basketball has never worked like that lol

      7. Foul and rebound logic are non-existent. I shouldn't have to have 15 attributes on rebounding for a player to catch the ball that comes directly to him. And the ticky tack foul called for CPU vs major contact fouls not called against the CPU ratio is like 6:1 at this point.

      8. Can't forget the directional passing. I have no idea what the settings are but the game doesn't respond to the stick. It's impossible to enter the ball to the high posts or short corner because guys throw the ball across the court directly at the defender. And don't lecture me cuz I've changed all the settings several times over and tried everything from barely moving the stick in the direction to pushing it full force. It's just a wonky, crappy system.
      Last edited by theflyesthoopa01; 02-14-2016, 12:30 PM.

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      • WISports
        Banned
        • Jun 2013
        • 2065

        #93
        Re: NBA 2K16: Biggest Pet Peeve?

        One of my pet peeves: ball/rim physics

        There needs to be more variation of shots inside/close to the hoop. Way too often are shots in the paint/close to the basket banked in. More than there should be.

        Also, way too many made close shots are nothing but net (even the banked shots). Very unrealistic. Kills the immersion some.

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        • derlaid
          Rookie
          • Oct 2015
          • 105

          #94
          Re: NBA 2K16: Biggest Pet Peeve?

          Small defenders seem to be able to shut down big guys very easily these days with a higher steal rating.

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          • KingTocco
            Fino Alla Fine
            • Jul 2012
            • 3177

            #95
            Re: NBA 2K16: Biggest Pet Peeve?

            The community on Twitter and YouTube that just constantly have nothing good to say at all and always respond with "rep boost", "locker codes", 100000 All Star Pack Opening OMG I PULLED THE GOAT blah blah blah.

            Not really much you can do about these types of people but it's so frustrating sometimes.
            Fino Alla Fine

            Lakers
            Juventus

            PSN: KingTocco

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            • convince
              Pro
              • Jul 2005
              • 725

              #96
              I have one major pet peeve. With better consoles and ch2k8 and nfl2k5 in your library, the lack of a weekly show in my league and a working halftime and post shows is starting become ridiculous. The other game's haltime shows kills this one. Again its only pet peeve but a major one in my eyes.
              GT Agent August
              Xbox/Playstation

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              • Samm27
                Banned
                • Jul 2014
                • 107

                #97
                Re: NBA 2K16: Biggest Pet Peeve?

                LeBrons tree trunk legs and the way they are 3times the size of his in real life. Oh and his weird looking face that has gotten progresively worse since 2k14

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                • mcdowell31
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 170

                  #98
                  What messes-up immersion for me? Immersion. I'll explain.

                  I play offline MyLeague: I've always enjoyed basketball history and liked creating future history with previous 2K versions using Dynasty mode. I'm a basketball junkie and I'm still playing a College Hoops Legacy I started in 2007: In-game I'm in the 2045-46 season. Immersion in that game is one of the best.

                  2K16 immersion tries much too hard. My cut-scenes are set to "Never" but I am forced to watch:

                  1. Zoom-in of players walking to the time-out huddle. No matter how many times I press a controller button I cannot bypass this. It isn't useful to me during a game but it would be perfect for a end-of-quarter montage or a post-game montage along with any highlights. If it must be used, put strategy menus on top of immersion scenes the way Madden 2016 does; multitasking like this would speed-up game play.

                  2. Zoom-in of coaches looking bewildered/confused/unimpressed every other time a bad play happens. This is a wasted zoom: As a player competing I don't care how the coach feels during a game. Again, save it for a montage, or allow me to โ€œdiscoverโ€ the emotion (or whatever he's doing) when I'm playing around with instant replay. Currently this does not add any information or help me win the game. And, it adds unneeded drama to regular season games that just really doesn't exist on most telecasts I've seen.

                  3. Zoom-in of players berating teammates when bad plays happen. Same as the coaches, but this might be tolerable if it happened in real-time on the court without a zoom. It would be better if emotional displays indicated a player was out of control and his ratings would be handicapped for 30-60 seconds until he regained composure. Or, he is creeping closer to getting a technical foul. With that information perhaps I could decide to sub him out temporarily. Right now, it is a flashy animation with no substance.

                  4. Not a zoom-in, but the "upset" highly demonstrative player who slams the ball after an opponent score whether it's the first score of a game or a 20-point blowout with 2-minutes to go. Context goes out of the window and the same animation plays over and over and over... all game. Insult to injury: He's already held-up any attempt at playing up-tempo basketball strategy, but then he holds the ball for 1-2 seconds as he โ€œrefocusesโ€ or calms down or something before throwing the ball in. Can't tell what it is but it is irritating because the same animation happens too much, and fundamentally changes the game. Currently, half the players react like Rasheed Wallace; I don't think Rasheed was that demonstrative.

                  5. Greg and Clark running their own pre-half-post-game-weekly โ€œwrap-up showโ€ on every free-throw and dead-ball. I am forced to look at the graphic and listen to inane chatter about something that is not the game currently in progress. Again: As a user I'm competing... I don't really care about the mundane. This information would be much more tolerable in a wrap-up show separate from the game much like College Hoops and NFL 2K5 did.

                  I realize in the above I've posited the idea of a highlight show separate from game highlights (extra work for the developer). I've always thought part of the immersion strength of 2K sports games has been the use of algorithmic technology to identify and exhibit highlights during game and in the score summary. Saying the least: 2K is amazing at this. Highlight presentation is 2K's โ€œA-gameโ€ or โ€œgo toโ€ move: I really don't think anyone in the industry can match them.

                  To avoid extra work, why not simply plagiarize past creations and update them for use today? Rather than putting talking heads and faces on screen, use that wonderful technology to show an unending source of highlights from in-game. And, use that same technology to create a โ€œhighlight generatorโ€ that could randomly make highlights of non-user games for viewing by the user watching a wrap-up show. Use the talking heads recordings for highlight voice-over and you have a much more dynamic and interesting show with a minimal amount of work.

                  Often NBA 2K15 and 2K16 have felt more like reality TV than professional sports. I really miss the โ€œbasketball junkieโ€ NBA 2K games from my Xbox 360 days.

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                  • Luke Skywalker
                    Pro
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 927

                    #99
                    Re: NBA 2K16: Biggest Pet Peeve?

                    Lack of ability to edit/create coaches. I wish we could create and edit coaches like we create players.

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                    • mjt844
                      Just started!
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 3

                      #100
                      Re: NBA 2K16: Biggest Pet Peeve?

                      Further to my post earlier in this thread. I can say with confidence having read peoples comments that 2K have butchered this game.

                      All the hype and chest beating by developers in the lead up to the release of 16 would have us believe it was revolutionary. But infact its a massive disappointment and a lot of "Digital Media " crap !!
                      Case in point the number of "patches" released to fix major problems .

                      The MyPlayer and MyCareer option offered a lot of promise in 2016 but instead went backwards. The MyCourt , training , College , Connections and Sponsors was a great inclusion , but making the origin "Harlem " and "African American" was not only racist , but a huge mistake given the franchise has a Global market to cater to.
                      2K seem to start a few good concepts but then cut them out by the time of a new release. Like 2015 had an on court altercation scene , but then didnt take it any further. If anything they need to develop it. There should be more interaction on court. Off court.
                      14 had scenes with Managers and 15 with Coach and Agent These shouldve been retained and developed .
                      Also team mate interactions. Such as one player turning ball over , shooting badly , poor free throws. There should be influence in team mates getting better.

                      - Voice options non existent for MyPlayer. Wheres the Hispanic , European , Caucasian , Asian sample ??
                      - The audio samples on post game interviews with Freq are atrocious. Its a rehash of 2015 responses , but of a poor quality.
                      - Locker room 1/2 time is a rehash of 2015 cut scenes. 2k were too f****** lazy to redo these with new coaching staff
                      - Courtside huddle scenes are limited. I think theres 2 .
                      - The movement of opponents around the court is superhuman. Im sure if this were real, then most of the current band of NBA players would be in therapy with torn ACL , hamstring as well as broken ankles
                      - Wheres Charles Barkley ??
                      - On the offensive end . During gameplay. Constantly being stopped as I get to the 3pt line and the paint by a direct a opponent , is a wtf !!! moment and so not the NBA .
                      I think 2K have completely overdone the defense . And in return havent balanced the game out allowing MyPlayer and my team the same level . Being able to plant feet and intercept the ball. Also being constantly stripped of the ball . Not 1 single reach in foul called on opposition teams .
                      Auto generated Rookies coming into a Season with high skill level when I had to start with 50.

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                      • Viking2855
                        Just started!
                        • Dec 2015
                        • 2

                        #101
                        Originally posted by Magnus1959
                        The 3 second call. Not a big thing but my pet peeve.
                        Still angry about those dudes who create 7'3 centers and just catch the ball in the paint and dunk over everybody no matter how good the defender is,,its BS plus I thought they said there would be a speed penalty to those who choose to be that tall, dont see how someone with the height of Porzingis is running like Lebron out there it doesnt make Pro-Am as fun because it seems like some players like that dont even need skill just stand in the paint catch the ball and dunk this isnt 1962 anymore that kind of stuff isnt seen as often as it displays in Pro-AM

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                        • beardedaussie
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2016
                          • 379

                          #102
                          Re: NBA 2K16: Biggest Pet Peeve?

                          Mine are purely online pet peeves.

                          1. Constantly facing Warriors, Cavs and Thunder in play now.

                          2. The people who just sprint full court from an inbounds pass after a basket with the likes of Westbrook and Wall for the easy dunk or lay in from the baseline. Defense is too slow to keep up with them.

                          3. Off ball defense. I don't hate it but it really annoys me when people just camp off the ball all game and only man up for double teams, it makes weak defenders and mismatches pointless.

                          4. Comebacks (more so in MyTeam for me) , whether it be my opponent or me usually whoever is up at half time and dominating comes out in the second half and go ice cold whilst they or i are scorching hot. I like close games but the way the game forces it to be close is annoying.

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                          • Hooperport
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2015
                            • 126

                            #103
                            Re: NBA 2K16: Biggest Pet Peeve?

                            Originally posted by mcdowell31
                            4. Not a zoom-in, but the "upset" highly demonstrative player who slams the ball after an opponent score whether it's the first score of a game or a 20-point blowout with 2-minutes to go.
                            My player sometimes does that after WE score!

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                            • Hustle Westbrook
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 3146

                              #104
                              Re: NBA 2K16: Biggest Pet Peeve?

                              I can't stand watching my players be put in random positions after a timeout/deadball. If your opponent is inbounding the ball in the backcourt the game will literally have 2-3 of your players standing in front of the inbound man for no reason at all. This literally just sets you up to get turboed on to the basket. Some of the dumbest **** I've seen programmed in a basketball game.

                              Check out my YouTube channel for NBA 2K16 MyTeam and Play Now Online gameplay videos!

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                              • icysuspect
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2015
                                • 11

                                #105
                                Re: NBA 2K16: Biggest Pet Peeve?

                                I don't like that little hesitation/shuffle you do when you try to explode out of a dribble sequence without crossing over. It's slow, unrealistic and any veteran 2k player knows exactly what direction you are going when they see it.

                                I don't think there is enough 'riding the hip' animations in the game. Happens a lot in real life.

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