MLB The Show 16: Gameplay Taking Steps Forward

[HypoLuxa13]

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There is a choice, and the choice is yours.

yeah, cause with less than 6 weeks before the game's release, Ramone has nothing better to do than come onto OS forums and explain in detail for one particular user (you) every decision made about how they come up with their pitcher ratings for a video game. A game. GAME.

Relax man, don't take it so personally. I'm sure by throwing out an ultimatum like "There is a choice, and the choice is yours" - that's really going to motivate someone from the dev team to come on here an argue with you...

[Ghost Of The Year]

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One man's sinker is another man's 2seamer. Same with the splitter & fork or curve & slurve. Or slurve & slider. I doubt there will ever be a day that there is 100% consensus on what every pitcher throws.

[kingdevin]

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Its getting heated in here. Let's all just relax!!! You can't expect MLB the Show to be perfect with everything every time!! I grew up with Intellivision baseball, and at that time I was appreciative of that game. Now you have developers probing through stats, simulating player mo cap, sounds in specific stadiums, making sure uniforms are accurate etc....Let's appreciate what we have and not nitpick about little tidbits here and there. I'm sure the devs work hard day in and out to satisfy not only the casual gamer but the die-hards and every year folks are moaning and groaning many times about little issues (I understand that sometimes concerns are valid resulting in patches and updates). It gets to the point when the game is out foronly a week, someone is already posting a wish list for next year.... Listen, we are all fortunate to live in a society where we have the luxury to "escape" into this unreal video experience. Appreciate it!!! Cause the realities of the world order or lack there of can interrupt us at any point going forward.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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Also, looking at Kershaw & Felix, in 2013-14 Kershaw had 3 throwing errors as opposed to Felix's 2. That's not even looking at how many fielding throws each made but I imagine that has something to do with their arm accuracy. In any case I doubt that stays the same for 16 as Kershaw made either 1 or 0 throwing errors last season & Felix made 2.

[Cavicchi]

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yeah, cause with less than 6 weeks before the game's release, Ramone has nothing better to do than come onto OS forums and explain in detail for one particular user (you) every decision made about how they come up with their pitcher ratings for a video game. A game. GAME.

Relax man, don't take it so personally. I'm sure by throwing out an ultimatum like "There is a choice, and the choice is yours" - that's really going to motivate someone from the dev team to come on here an argue with you...

There is not an argument, there is/was a discussion. I am giving information for him. If he chooses not to use it, so be it. If he doesn't want to discuss it further, so be it. The "choice" is something he could use next year.

One man's sinker is another man's 2seamer. Same with the splitter & fork or curve & slurve. Or slurve & slider. I doubt there will ever be a day that there is 100% consensus on what every pitcher throws.

Key is the source, and who is behind that source, the people making those determinations.

One of the people for Brooksbaseball is--

"Harry Pavlidis, a Chicagoan, is the founder of Pitch Info and Director of Technology for Baseball Prospectus, where he provides a regular column featuring PITCHf/x based scouting and analysis. Harry is a graduate of Syracuse University with more than fifteen years experience in developing online and mobile applications - for things not even related to baseball, too."

[Cavicchi]

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Also, looking at Kershaw & Felix, in 2013-14 Kershaw had 3 throwing errors as opposed to Felix's 2. That's not even looking at how many fielding throws each made but I imagine that has something to do with their arm accuracy. In any case I doubt that stays the same for 16 as Kershaw made either 1 or 0 throwing errors last season & Felix made 2.

Between that 3 and 2 is a difference in rating of 32 to around 76, and that's okay with you. Fielding throw errors would include all throwing errors.

[HypoLuxa13]

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There is not an argument, there is/was a discussion. I am giving information for him. If he chooses not to use it, so be it. If he doesn't want to discuss it further, so be it. The "choice" is something he could use next year.

Fair enough.

[Cavicchi]

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Also, looking at Kershaw & Felix, in 2013-14 Kershaw had 3 throwing errors as opposed to Felix's 2. That's not even looking at how many fielding throws each made but I imagine that has something to do with their arm accuracy. In any case I doubt that stays the same for 16 as Kershaw made either 1 or 0 throwing errors last season & Felix made 2.

I just looked them up and there is quite a difference from 2008:

Kershaw made 4 Fielding throwing errors.

Felix Hernandez made 10 Fielding throwing errors.

If you want to use a 3-year span, they both made 3 throwing errors--2013 to 2015 but that's not what should be factored into the equation, 2012 to 2014 would be the correct 3-year span for comparison.

2012 to 2014:

Kershaw 2 Throwing errors and Hernandez 3 throwing errors.

[Factzzz]

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Our data comes directly from they MLB they have best camera's and technology of any of the pitch FX tracking mechanisms. We also cross reference it wother another source. The data we get is 98% accurate.

I just faced Eddie Butler (COL), and his fastball touched 98 mph, and his changeup was constantly 78-79 mph.

20 mph different for Eddie Butler. I don't know what sources they used to find that Eddie Butler had that kind of difference between his fastball and changeup.

According to fangraphs:

Butler throws his changeup fairly often (12.6% of the time last season), but unfortunately has been really bad at throwing it. Perhaps the fact that he only has a six mph difference between his fastball and his changeup has been the problem.

[ralphieboy11]

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One thing that I really hope has been changed is the CPU's propensity to suicide squeeze late in ballgames. I played two games yesterday and I saw this in both of them. It is a real game killer.

First game, tied in extra innings. Players on first and third one out. CPU successfully suicide squeezes to take the lead.

Second game, CPU down 3-2 in the top of the 8th. Bases loaded, one out. CPU batter whiffs on the bunt attempt and the runner is tagged out at the plate. Rally over.

This tactic is so prevalent in late inning situations that I have gotten really good at predicting when it will occur. If you have a tied or one run game in the late innings, runner on third, less than 2 outs, the cpu will try this once during an at bat. It doesn't matter who is at the plate.

I know there had been some mention of tuning bunts in the streams, but it seemed more geared toward online play. The CPU's tendencies need to be adjusted.

[Cavicchi]

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I just faced Eddie Butler (COL), and his fastball touched 98 mph, and his changeup was constantly 78-79 mph.

20 mph different for Eddie Butler. I don't know what sources they used to find that Eddie Butler had that kind of difference between his fastball and changeup.

According to fangraphs:

That is about the same with Brooksbaseball as well.

Both Sonny Gray and Shelby Miller were given 12-6 curveballs. Check them out and you will clearly see both curveballs have more horizontal movement. Think 12-6 and how could such a pitch be more horizontal than vertical?

[BrianU]

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One thing that I really hope has been changed is the CPU's propensity to suicide squeeze late in ballgames. I played two games yesterday and I saw this in both of them. It is a real game killer.

First game, tied in extra innings. Players on first and third one out. CPU successfully suicide squeezes to take the lead.

Second game, CPU down 3-2 in the top of the 8th. Bases loaded, one out. CPU batter whiffs on the bunt attempt and the runner is tagged out at the plate. Rally over.

This tactic is so prevalent in late inning situations that I have gotten really good at predicting when it will occur. If you have a tied or one run game in the late innings, runner on third, less than 2 outs, the cpu will try this once during an at bat. It doesn't matter who is at the plate.

I know there had been some mention of tuning bunts in the streams, but it seemed more geared toward online play. The CPU's tendencies need to be adjusted.

This and also the CPU's amount of double steals.

[Sam The Man]

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