MLB The Show 16 Twitch Stream - Diamond Dynasty (Archive Available)

[Hayman19]

Re: MLB The Show 16 Twitch Stream - Diamond Dynasty (Archive Available)

It sounds like there are some measure of detailed stats that will be in which is best thing about '16 imo. Hopefully these "new" stats are for RttS as well.

Oh my god, if these stats are NOT in RttS AND Franchise, this will be the biggest honeydick in the history of MLB The Show(Maybe not, but to me it will be).

I don't know if I would be able to forgive them.


Give me stats...MOAR stats!!

[LeftyShortstop]

Oh my god, if these stats are NOT in RttS AND Franchise, this will be the biggest honeydick in the history of MLB The Show(Maybe not, but to me it will be).

I don't know if I would be able to forgive them.


Give me stats...MOAR stats!!

It has to show up in franchise but there may not be a need to use it in RTTS. It would be a great addition though.

[dran1984]

Re: MLB The Show 16 Twitch Stream - Diamond Dynasty (Archive Available)

Oh my god, if these stats are NOT in RttS AND Franchise, this will be the biggest honeydick in the history of MLB The Show(Maybe not, but to me it will be).

I don't know if I would be able to forgive them.


Give me stats...MOAR stats!!

Well, we know it's obviously in Franchise but I wouldn't be surprised if its not in DD. In Franchise it makes sense because you build your roster, lineups, rotations, etc. In RttS it doesn't make as much sense because you only control the development of your player. People may want to see more stats on their individual player though, so its possible.

I was hoping inside edge would be in franchise since it was in DD, turns out it wont be. So you never know.

[tessl]

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I am very curious about how their WAR calculation will play out. I am assuming that their stats might be coming from Inside Edge, but as far as I know they don't put out any public WAR stats. Looking at it it does seem to lean a bit more offensively than Fangraphs and more towards BR when you look at other offensive/DH type players similar to Ortiz. It also looks a bit odd that it is to two decimal places, but that may just be to differentiate it from fWAR and bWAR.

What matters though is how they calculate this with user generated stats. i.e. Simmed franchise, RTTS, etc. I'm assuming that the calculation they are using must only use the stats (or ratings) that the game can track other wise it would be useless to have career WAR.

edit: Just watched the stream. Definitely not happy if classic stadiums will be available in ranked DD games. I was surprised when that came up since they seemed to spend a lot of time talking about making sure people can't exploit the missions and rewards systems, but with 279 and 258 ft down the lines I wonder which stadium people will use to boost offensive missions/stats. But most of all I'm sure many people here remember on PS3 how often you had to play at Polo Grounds. It just gets boring to play there so often. Hopefully the classic stadiums will be rare and expensive to buy so people won't want to spend stubs on them and Polo will come up less often. I love that they are in the game, but I don't like them for ranked online modes.

I'm not a fan of WAR but as long as it is just a stat and not used in any way as an attribute that's fine. It seems like calculating it would require a lot of code.

[jm2054]

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Is there anything to get out of that stream for somebody who thinks modes like DD is solely for kids?

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Why do you think it's for kids? I could see if you just said I don't like the mode but these modes DD mut myteam are the most popular modes and adults spend hundreds even thousands of dollars on them so it's not just for kids.
I don't know if you play madden or 2k but if you don't like DD or think it won't continue to grow and get likely the most attention of the modes your going be very upset. These modes are straight up cash cows for these developers and even though you don't like it you should be glad it's there because the more money they make off DD the more gets invested back to the game overall.

There's no issue if you don't like it but saying it's just for kids is silly that's the equivalent of me saying Francise is only for people over 30 it makes absolutely zero sense.

[tnixen]

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I like that they added Persistent bullpen fatigue!

[fezchezpez]

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Ok, I have been waiting for a Chipper Jones legend for a while now.

They mentioned him in the stream, in that he would NOT be a flashback card which makes sense, but didn't mention either way if he might be a legend. He seems like such an obvious candidate since a lot of people grew up watching him are a large demographic of players.

You think he might be in guys, or does the denial of a flashback mean he is most likely out.

[Factzzz]

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Why do you think it's for kids? I could see if you just said I don't like the mode but these modes DD mut myteam are the most popular modes and adults spend hundreds even thousands of dollars on them so it's not just for kids.
I don't know if you play madden or 2k but if you don't like DD or think it won't continue to grow and get likely the most attention of the modes your going be very upset. These modes are straight up cash cows for these developers and even though you don't like it you should be glad it's there because the more money they make off DD the more gets invested back to the game overall.

There's no issue if you don't like it but saying it's just for kids is silly that's the equivalent of me saying Francise is only for people over 30 it makes absolutely zero sense.

Hopefully they use some of that money they make from this mode to get more and more brands in the game like New Balance and Adidas.

And use some of that money to expand their team so it makes it easier on all of them and they can attack more problems each year.

I assume that's what any extra money could be used for anyways.

[Dolenz]

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So a question from someone who has not spent much, if any, time in Diamond Dynasty. I realize it really is an online mode but some of the content in regards to Captains and missions looks like they could be interesting. Are there any offline components to the mode that would make it worth a look for those of us who like the idea of compiling a team but have little to no interest to playing online?

[Shakedowncapo]

Re: MLB The Show 16 Twitch Stream - Diamond Dynasty (Archive Available)

So a question from someone who has not spent much, if any, time in Diamond Dynasty. I realize it really is an online mode but some of the content in regards to Captains and missions looks like they could be interesting. Are there any offline components to the mode that would make it worth a look for those of us who like the idea of compiling a team but have little to no interest to playing online?

According to Nick you'll be able to accumulate tickets outside of diamond dynasty, which you'll then be able to use in the captains stores. That's one way of compiling a team without actually playing online. And like last year, you'll be able to play the computer with your DD team.

[Speedy]

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Ok, I have been waiting for a Chipper Jones legend for a while now.

They mentioned him in the stream, in that he would NOT be a flashback card which makes sense, but didn't mention either way if he might be a legend. He seems like such an obvious candidate since a lot of people grew up watching him are a large demographic of players.

You think he might be in guys, or does the denial of a flashback mean he is most likely out.

I think any HOF should be in DD whether it's their rookie card, MVP/prime year...something. To your question, I do hope Chipper ('99 version!) is available.

<= [Look at avatar] I mean...hey...SCEA knows him pretty well.

Spoiler

989 Sports is owned by SCEA.

[jm2054]

Re: MLB The Show 16 Twitch Stream - Diamond Dynasty (Archive Available)

So a question from someone who has not spent much, if any, time in Diamond Dynasty. I realize it really is an online mode but some of the content in regards to Captains and missions looks like they could be interesting. Are there any offline components to the mode that would make it worth a look for those of us who like the idea of compiling a team but have little to no interest to playing online?

You can play CPU teams and the new mode guantlet and battle royal may be offline we don't t know yet.

[myghty]

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Very excited for this mode with all the new changes. Was what I mainly played along with RTTS. Sad that Quick Counts won't make it in as it takes too long to finish just one game when I have limited time...

[thomas2345]

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I'm actually in favor of playing online at lower difficulty settings mainly due to pitch speed. Playing CoTW you see the pitch speed difference ramp up easily or at least it seems like there is a significant ramp-up. The speed in DD in 15 is about as high as I'd want it to go since if it was faster it would only entice people even more to play a certain way. i.e. load up on fireballers and pitch up and in, then bring in Neshek or whoever else has a huge speed differential between pitches. Gets old fast and with higher input lag displays (I have one) even when you know it's coming every pitch it's extremely hard to hit 100 mph up and in.

Since both players play with the same difficulty I've never had an issue with it in DD. It always seemed fair to me. This year it might prevent newer players from ever making up to higher leagues if everytime they reach a new tier they immediately get knocked down again due to the difficulty spike between levels.

I think the reason they put in the difficulty change is because someone from the world series division would play someone from spring training, and you only get like 2 points or even 0. They want you to match up with someone in your Division I'm guessing.

[MrOldboy]

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I'm not sure I'm following. It would still work the same as last year in terms of matchmaking right? If there is no one in your division available you'll play someone outside of it and in those cases they said it would be on all star.

Now though you are forced to play on the difficulty of the league you are in which might cause the problem I referenced. If I just made it to the next level and then get matched with someone in that higher league I have to play at a new difficulty. One loss and you are back down to previous league. It might be hard for players to move up and stay up between leagues now since every time oh have to face higher tier players who may have been playing at that difficulty for a while while you are only experienced with the lower leagues setting.