Diamond AD and Lillard coming.

[rangerrick012]

Knew it was coming but it's official.

[KidKain]

Re: Diamond AD and Lillard coming.

Diamond lillard was my favorite PG in 2k15

If he's anything like that I'm all in. They probably boosted his defense and steal on top of shooting and passing.

[KidKain]

Re: Diamond AD and Lillard coming.

On the other hand 2K is making that Diamond Stockton I've been grinding towards look obsolete

[kabamaru]

Re: Diamond AD and Lillard coming.

It is just a rip-off. AD will cost like 2-3 mm, whle he is only 5 points better than normal one.

A better user will always beat a worse user with the normal card vs the diamond.

I played a Diamond Brandon Jennings and he was SO much worse than my gold Current Wall.

To pay for that Diamond Jennings 700k while Current Amethyst Steph (similar styles) costs 80K is plain silly.

People who wanna grind to get those players, I am fine with it, but if they invested the same time PLAYING the game and improving they would be just better.

Thing is that they believe that Diamond players = automated win.

Only rarity drives the cost

Amethyst melo is only slightly improved vs Current but goes 50 times more expensive

http://2kmtcentral.com/16/players/compare/9464/1015

[predator122]

Re: Diamond AD and Lillard coming.

Hopefully people will spend their MT today ripping those boxes and decreasing the price of moments KAT!

[synistr]

Re: Diamond AD and Lillard coming.

the Lillard will be one of the better Diamonds because his other cards are great offensively already..but this diamond makes him an average/above average defender.

[justlaze]

Re: Diamond AD and Lillard coming.

people with bash moments boxes today, I'm going to figure out some decent snipe filters for diamonds now...

do you think they get released at 11am eastern time? just as TBT packs?

[KingTocco]

Re: Diamond AD and Lillard coming.

Lillard has the wildcard badge...not sure why he's usually pretty consistent.

Both of these cards I will never get, I'm still over here wishing they would actually make them obtainable by playing the game.

Maybe have Moments Challenges where you have to actually recreate the performance with the normal version of the player or something to unlock the "Moments" version


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[synistr]

Re: Diamond AD and Lillard coming.

Lillard has the wildcard badge...not sure why he's usually pretty consistent.

Both of these cards I will never get, I'm still over here wishing they would actually make them obtainable by playing the game.

Maybe have Moments Challenges where you have to actually recreate the performance with the normal version of the player or something to unlock the "Moments" version


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Don't even worry about Diamonds. focus on all these good Amethyst snipes we will be getting from these suckers opening packs.

[kabamaru]

Re: Diamond AD and Lillard coming.

By the way, last year Ruby '96 MJ, probably best card in the game fully badged up costed 500-600k (or could be 1,5mm?). Dunkers collection costed 500K all together and you would get Sapphire Erving (maybe 2nd best card in the game) and then resell it for only tax cost.

This year you see many cards going for millions.

Someone would believe that since Sapphire versions which were free last year nd athe 25K collection awards do not exist anymore, the MT available between the players would be lower. 2k is a "closed" economy with MT being injected only by playing or VC minus the 10% tax.
Sniping is does not generate profit. It is silly to say that. Someone gains profit obviously but at the same time someone loses with the total MT available 10% below the original.

That would lead to reduced prices to the players.

So how come there is so much MT available despite the loss of 25K collection awards glitch?

[justlaze]

Re: Diamond AD and Lillard coming.

By the way, last year Ruby '96 MJ, probably best card in the game fully badged up costed 500-600k (or could be 1,5mm?). Dunkers collection costed 500K all together and you would get Sapphire Erving (maybe 2nd best card in the game) and then resell it for only tax cost.

This year you see many cards going for millions.

Someone would believe that since Sapphire versions which were free last year nd athe 25K collection awards do not exist anymore, the MT available between the players would be lower. 2k is a "closed" economy with MT being injected only by playing or VC minus the 10% tax.
Sniping is does not generate profit. It is silly to say that. Someone gains profit obviously but at the same time someone loses with the total MT available 10% below the original.

That would lead to reduced prices to the players.

So how come there is so much MT available despite the loss of 25K collection awards glitch?

The ruby MJ was always around a million MT last year. The Gold MJ95 was around 600-800k. It's crazy how these (maybe along with Onyx Wilt) were the most expensive cards. Today we consider the black market diamonds like Larry "a steal" for 750k - comparing to what happens on the auction block.

The main price drivers are a) the bad odds for pulling diamonds; aswell as b) the growing popularity of buying MT.

I've said it once within another thread: inventing diamonds as the top tier category is a neck breaker for us. If you look back at 2k15, "diamonds" were listed within the Onyx Category. This means we've pulled like 1-2 garantueed Onyx out of 200k and had the chance of getting a really good player. Even though you got trolled sometimes by Throwback Marion you had the same chances for pulling Heat LBJ, MVP Oscar or similar diamond-like cards.

Chances pulling a diamond player now are slightly above 0%.
As cards being so rare, the prices went up like crazy.

Also the fact not having pink diamonds due to locker codes means people are forced buying diamonds on the auction block. there is no other way.

It's sad how they butchered this mode in comparison to last year.
If they would at least give us decent players for completing collections, but now 2K says: "go play ball...with this amethyst lakers signature ball...."

Well thank you 2K

[2kplayer099]

Re: Diamond AD and Lillard coming.

I was hoping they would just upgrade Damian's amethyst moments card. That didn't happen because I actually have him though. That is always my luck lol.

[synistr]

Re: Diamond AD and Lillard coming.

By the way, last year Ruby '96 MJ, probably best card in the game fully badged up costed 500-600k (or could be 1,5mm?). Dunkers collection costed 500K all together and you would get Sapphire Erving (maybe 2nd best card in the game) and then resell it for only tax cost.

This year you see many cards going for millions.

Someone would believe that since Sapphire versions which were free last year nd athe 25K collection awards do not exist anymore, the MT available between the players would be lower. 2k is a "closed" economy with MT being injected only by playing or VC minus the 10% tax.
Sniping is does not generate profit. It is silly to say that. Someone gains profit obviously but at the same time someone loses with the total MT available 10% below the original.

That would lead to reduced prices to the players.

So how come there is so much MT available despite the loss of 25K collection awards glitch?

Unless I totally misunderstood your post...I would have to say because of people buying VC and MT and re-injecting that into the market when they buy and sell cards.

The change in the tiers have caused some cards to hold their value better than last year. Also Dynamics have a lot more value that last year's Emerald cards which were largely worthless with the exception of about 5 cards.

Gameplay has a lot to do with it as well. Last year gameplay was loose so you didn't need a fantasy card to win with. You still don't but the perception that you do now is greater to casuals in particular. There were solid Onyx and Gold cards as well as some of the realistic Rubies. Onyx and Ruby Lebron were only marginally better than Gold Lebron. Lebron is not as dominant as he was in 2k15...neither is Steph for that matter...or PG13, etc... So the quest is to get fantasy cards or Diamonds because it is a wide perception that the "best" or highest rated cards are needed to compete. Last year that was not the case. Gold Lebron was 98 overall and I had probably about 30 of them over the course of the time I had the game. Diamond/Sapphire cards weren't any better than Gold versions of the same cards...so some didn't see the need to grind to get the same versions basically.

Now the tiers dictate the value as opposed to the rating. So people that don't buy MT/VC hold on to their cards a lil tighter because they know the resell value will remain high for the most part. I think sniping does generate profit because you have to look at the the person sniping isn't the one spending real money. The person spending real money is the one losing but it doesn't appear that way to them because they could care less about underselling a gold or amethyst if their goal is to pull a Diamond. Whenever people open packs...snipers make the most MT. When people sell pack contents, they are left with some MT to redistribute to the market as well, albeit at a loss.

Don't look at loss and gains, look at the amount of MT that enters the market through MT and VC purchases. Also look at how well Amethyst and Diamond cards hold their value. This is why 2k will not give us good player rewards for our completed collections because if they did...then you are really talking about an influx of MT....particularly being that collector level awards are not worth the time and effort. THAT alone would put a dent into microtransactions.

[synistr]

Re: Diamond AD and Lillard coming.

I was hoping they would just upgrade Damian's amethyst moments card. That didn't happen because I actually have him though. That is always my luck lol.

as soon as Lillard had that game I thought about that, being it would be the reasonable thing to do...then I thought...heck nah....they would never do that because the goal is to get people to open packs, not give non-pack openers a way to make MT.

[2kplayer099]

Re: Diamond AD and Lillard coming.

as soon as Lillard had that game I thought about that, being it would be the reasonable thing to do...then I thought...heck nah....they would never do that because the goal is to get people to open packs, not give non-pack openers a way to make MT.

Yeah I thought about buying a couple but decided against it. It seems like every single time something does get upgraded(not talking about dynamic cards)or changed by them it ends up being a card I don't have even though I have a lot.


I don't buy MT so it sucks seeing those AS cards like Magic still going for 2 million plus. I've seen Westbrook for 1.7 million once or twice. I have around 1.4 million and could have bought Wade(as well as a couple of the other ones) once or twice but I'm not that interested in his card.


I've been tempted to get rid of my collection for a while now but I do like to use a lot of different cards as my bench players. I usually keep my starters the same and replace one or two every once in a while.