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  • cws
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    • Mar 2014
    • 22

    #1

    Classic Stadiums

    Why is it that Sony does not do the classic stadiums correctly? Forbes is once again not the version that was used for 80 years. Shibe is incorrect.
    The Polo Grounds is closest to it real life counterpart. These were not done from scratch - probably ports from PS3. The current stadiums are fantastic, but why do a mediocre job on the classics? Too bad!
  • ykiki
    Rookie
    • Mar 2003
    • 103

    #2
    Re: Classic Stadiums

    Does Crosley finally have the incline in the OF?
    Missing my Sonics...

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    • baseballsim
      MVP
      • Jun 2009
      • 1279

      #3
      Re: Classic Stadiums

      I've seen the real images of these classic ballparks but I wouldn't be able to tell what was really lacking in MLB The Show unless I took an in-depth historical study of the actual ballparks.

      What exactly is missing? I do know about the incline at Crosley was missing in PS3 but I can understand why they wouldn't be able to make it function correctly in the video game.
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      • HypoLuxa13
        MVP
        • Feb 2007
        • 1156

        #4
        Re: Classic Stadiums

        Originally posted by cws
        Why is it that Sony does not do the classic stadiums correctly? Forbes is once again not the version that was used for 80 years. Shibe is incorrect.
        The Polo Grounds is closest to it real life counterpart. These were not done from scratch - probably ports from PS3. The current stadiums are fantastic, but why do a mediocre job on the classics? Too bad!
        I'm no historian, but in regards to Forbes: th park was only open 61 years total, and it went through several renditions of expansion, adding seats, moving the fences in, etc. So I'm not sure what you mean by "the version that was used for 80 years."

        It looks like the version in The Show 16 is meant to resemble the original from 1909 until 1925 when it underwent major changes.

        Edit: In fact, I thought I heard one of the Devs say in one of the streams that the classic stadiums were all modeled after either their original design, or maybe the most well known design. Something like that.
        Last edited by HypoLuxa13; 02-29-2016, 04:40 PM.

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        • Knight165
          *ll St*r
          • Feb 2003
          • 24964

          #5
          Re: Classic Stadiums

          They are all correct to a certain year.

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          • thaSLAB
            [Player 1]
            • Feb 2008
            • 4495

            #6
            Re: Classic Stadiums

            Originally posted by cws
            Why is it that Sony does not do the classic stadiums correctly? Forbes is once again not the version that was used for 80 years. Shibe is incorrect.
            The Polo Grounds is closest to it real life counterpart. These were not done from scratch - probably ports from PS3. The current stadiums are fantastic, but why do a mediocre job on the classics? Too bad!
            We really need someone to get out to these stadiums and take some good photos... oh, wait.

            And speaking of Shibe Park, you can easily tell that it's not a port from the PS3 version.

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            Last edited by thaSLAB; 02-29-2016, 05:52 PM.
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            • tessl
              All Star
              • Apr 2007
              • 5687

              #7
              Re: Classic Stadiums

              I see on the calendar an entire stream will be devoted to the classic stadiums. I'm strongly considering using a classic stadium in my franchise and I'm trying to figure out the dimensions.

              I want a stadium which plays pitcher friendly but not ridiculously so. I'm leaning toward Shibe but it really depends on dimensions which changed in some of those classic parks.

              A wise man once told me never assume anything but I'm guessing/assuming these classic stadiums will have the same graphics and lighting as the others in the show 16. According to the calendar there is an entire stream devoted to classic stadiums. We should get the answer there.

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              • tessl
                All Star
                • Apr 2007
                • 5687

                #8
                Re: Classic Stadiums

                Originally posted by thaSLAB
                We really need someone to get out to these stadiums and take some good photos... oh, wait.

                And speaking of Shibe Park, you can easily tell that it's not a port from the PS3 version.

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                Speaking of Shibe...

                http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2047930622

                ...although the fans on top of the roofs across the street kind of lost their view when the owner of the ballpark raised the right field wall specifically to prevent people from watching the games from the roofs so it's kind of a moot point. Still, I thought the old vs today view of those houses across the street was kind of cool to look at.

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                • cws
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 22

                  #9
                  Re: Classic Stadiums

                  Originally posted by HypoLuxa13
                  I'm no historian, but in regards to Forbes: th park was only open 61 years total, and it went through several renditions of expansion, adding seats, moving the fences in, etc. So I'm not sure what you mean by "the version that was used for 80 years."

                  It looks like the version in The Show 16 is meant to resemble the original from 1909 until 1925 when it underwent major changes.

                  Edit: In fact, I thought I heard one of the Devs say in one of the streams that the classic stadiums were all modeled after either their original design, or maybe the most well known design. Something like that.
                  It is definitely not the most well known design. No Greenberg Gardens , no scoreboard and no right field stands.

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                  • cws
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 22

                    #10
                    Re: Classic Stadiums

                    Originally posted by ykiki
                    Does Crosley finally have the incline in the OF?
                    No, It does not.

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                    • cws
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 22

                      #11
                      Re: Classic Stadiums

                      Originally posted by baseballsim
                      I've seen the real images of these classic ballparks but I wouldn't be able to tell what was really lacking in MLB The Show unless I took an in-depth historical study of the actual ballparks.

                      What exactly is missing? I do know about the incline at Crosley was missing in PS3 but I can understand why they wouldn't be able to make it function correctly in the video game.
                      Why not? They put it Minute Maid Park in Houston.

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                      • Knight165
                        *ll St*r
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 24964

                        #12
                        Re: Classic Stadiums

                        Originally posted by cws
                        Why not? They put it Minute Maid Park in Houston.

                        I wondered this myself.......
                        Perhaps the "hill" wasn't always present?


                        M.K.
                        Knight165
                        All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                        • Knight165
                          *ll St*r
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 24964

                          #13
                          Re: Classic Stadiums

                          Now I'll make you sad.....

                          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qxNuJy_6yaY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                          M.K.
                          Knight165
                          All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                          • baseballsim
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 1279

                            #14
                            Re: Classic Stadiums

                            Originally posted by cws
                            Why not? They put it Minute Maid Park in Houston.
                            That's true but I would imagine the video game experience at Crosley probably wouldn't make too much of a difference but I may be wrong.

                            One thing about the Minute Maid hill was that didn't work was the the fly ball indicator disappeared once it flew over the raised portion.
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                            • cws
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 22

                              #15
                              Re: Classic Stadiums

                              Originally posted by Knight165
                              Now I'll make you sad.....

                              <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qxNuJy_6yaY" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

                              M.K.
                              Knight165
                              I would sure like to see Ebbets in a game someday. Yes, it did make me sad. Thanks for the video.

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