MLB The Show 16 Twitch Stream - Franchise Mode & Gameplay (Archive Available)

[dran1984]

Re: MLB The Show 16 Twitch Stream Starts Now - Franchise Mode

A couple things I noticed. I see there may still be some roster management issues. End of season SEA is carrying 4 catchers and CLE has 14 pitchers.(possibly 13 if the DL player is a pitcher)

PLayers now can play 162 games!!

And you can now tell if a player has been extended a Qualifying Offer.

Where did you see this?? I must have missed it.

[Maverick09]

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The point is that the two are now correlated together, which wasn't the case before. You're right in that the concept doesn't make sense from a logical perspective, but if you take a step back you'll realize that doesn't really matter.

In real life, a player occasionally gets better AND has a great year. Regardless of the order, the point is that the two things happen concurrently.

Again, I agree with you on the semantics, but this observation of yours has no real functional effect on the game. Even if they did it the "proper" way (which would be far more labor intensive), the net result would be exactly the same: a system that produces busts and surprise superstars, and translates those occurrences into actual changes in performance..

I'm just scared of the positive feedback this will have on the player ratings while simulating into the future. He hit poorly against lefties, therefore his ratings drop, therefore he will likely continue to hit poorly against lefties, therefore his ratings drop, etc...

I really hope this was tested and calibrated before it was implemented. I really don't want to see the same issue as last year where the pitcher's in the game progressed at ridiculous rates because of performance driven progression.

[sydrogerdavid]

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Did they answer if the playoff eligible roster rules were updated to all players on the 40 man roster?

[ninertravel]

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Okay I need something cleared up from the wonderful folks here at OS. (Because I feel like I am getting conflicting reports on this matter)

Let me lay this out as clearly as I can....

At this moment I am playing MLB The Show 15. In season 1 (So the real 2015 schedule) And I am playing with what I believe are the latest OSFM rosters. (Everything accurate minus small things like Ian Desmond still a F/A)

When The Show 16 comes out, I understand that the rosters will be the same as the rosters I am playing with right now on 15. Which I am okay with it, because they are very update anyways, and have ALL the prospects there.

Now things like new stances, new face scans, all previous stats, will they be there when I load in my franchise from MLB 15 over to 16'? And when I finish my 2015 season on The Show 16, will the 2016 schedule be the correct schedule for this coming season?

If any of you have these answers and know 100% that what you are saying is correct, please get back to me. Thanks!

I am just trying to make sure that I am not wasting my time the rest of this month by playing my 2015 franchise on The Show 15.

Thanks guys

It wil carry over but any players that have retried or no longer going to play in MLB 16 will be fake players, this is the BIG issue I have with not having import player option it creates days of work if you want to have year to year saves


You wont have updated portraits either doing it this way for example Kris Bryant

[WaitTilNextYear]

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While I agree that the franchise stream was a bit underwhelming, I think part of that is because they got scooped by information leaks. I'm also glad I don't play online I guess. For the most part, the devs handled the stats criticism (which was my #1 gripe) by adding career and sortable stat tracking for all stats and also adding in the first semblance of meaningful advanced stats with FIP, BB%, K%, and WAR. On the basis of that alone, I am pretty satisfied.

On top of that, the new morale system, updated radio show, updated scouting, and slightly deeper finances/owner goals will add some depth to the mode and to team building. I wish the scouting update went a bit further by incorporating injury history, signability, draft bonus pools/slots, agent politics etc...but it is what it is.

The thing that worried me most 2 weeks ago (player morale) doesn't really bother me now that I've learned more about it, except that maybe a "Star" expectation player getting jilted by batting in the 2 hole is a little weird considering the 2 hole hitter is arguably where the best hitter should bat based on SABR theory.

The thing that worries me most now is player progression, specifically stat-based progression. In the stream, Avisail Garcia dropped 10 points in contact vLHP after only a 114 AB sample. That type of drop is pretty insane given the math sez you need 2200 plate appearances for the past performance to become as accurate/predictive as just an average 5-6% generic platoon split. I don't mind stat-based progression, but a 10-point swing after such a small sample could really be a problem for noisy/sample-sizey issues like platoon splits and especially over the long haul of a franchise.

[countryboy]

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While I may be in the minority I for one love the changes to franchise mode this year. March 29th cannot get here fast enough.

[tessl]

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A couple things I noticed. I see there may still be some roster management issues. End of season SEA is carrying 4 catchers and CLE has 14 pitchers.(possibly 13 if the DL player is a pitcher)

PLayers now can play 162 games!!

And you can now tell if a player has been extended a Qualifying Offer.

Could it be expanded rosters in September?

[tabarnes19_SDS]

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Could it be expanded rosters in September?

Picture I captured only had 25 man roster. So they were only carrying 25 guys..it was after sending guys down after expanding.

[tessl]

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While I agree that the franchise stream was a bit underwhelming, I think part of that is because they got scooped by information leaks. I'm also glad I don't play online I guess. For the most part, the devs handled the stats criticism (which was my #1 gripe) by adding career and sortable stat tracking for all stats and also adding in the first semblance of meaningful advanced stats with FIP, BB%, K%, and WAR. On the basis of that alone, I am pretty satisfied.

On top of that, the new morale system, updated radio show, updated scouting, and slightly deeper finances/owner goals will add some depth to the mode and to team building. I wish the scouting update went a bit further by incorporating injury history, signability, draft bonus pools/slots, agent politics etc...but it is what it is.

The thing that worried me most 2 weeks ago (player morale) doesn't really bother me now that I've learned more about it, except that maybe a "Star" expectation player getting jilted by batting in the 2 hole is a little weird considering the 2 hole hitter is arguably where the best hitter should bat based on SABR theory.

The thing that worries me most now is player progression, specifically stat-based progression. In the stream, Avisail Garcia dropped 10 points in contact vLHP after only a 114 plate appearance sample. That type of drop is pretty insane given the math sez you need 1000 plate appearances for the past performance to become as accurate/predictive as just an average 8-9% generic platoon split. I don't mind stat-based progression, but a 10-point swing after such a small sample could really be a problem for noisy/sample-sizey issues like platoon splits and especially over the long haul of a franchise.

Is that just an in season slump or a permanent structural drop in his attribute? If permanent that's a major problem.

[bcruise]

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Took a while but we finally got an answer - the CPU is aware of the morale system and will base its organizational decisions around it in order to keep their players happy (I'm paraphasing, but that's the gist)

Thanks for answering that Luis, was one of my bigger concerns.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Is that just an in season slump or a permanent structural drop in his attribute? If permanent that's a major problem.

It looked to be an end of season, permanent 10-point decrease to the attribute based on a 114 AB sample of hitting .132 vLHPs.

Yes, I agree.

For platoon splits, a RHB needs about 2200 PA's vLHP for that past performance to be as predictive as a random 5.5% split in the future.

A LHB needs 1000 PA's vRHP for that past performance to be as predictive as a random 9% split in the future.

We could end up with all kinds of weird stuff...pronounced reverse platoon splits among them...if this aggressive progression/regression isn't patched/smoothed out.

[rabnothimself]

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Honestly, there really isn't much that needs an upgrade. I go to well over 20 games a year there and not much changes. Logos on the scoreboard aren't that big a deal. Also didn't see a home run so we don't know if the animation and lighting was addressed.

They did add the correct font to the foul poles and the outfield walls from the pics I sent last summer.

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I agree, Citizens Bank Park is pretty spot on, the only thing that annoys me about it is that all of the concession stands are completely empty in the park. It looks real bad in ashburn alley and on the one that's in the left field scoreboard porch.

[BrianU]

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Is that just an in season slump or a permanent structural drop in his attribute? If permanent that's a major problem.

It's a 'permanent' adjustment to his ratings for the following season. Of course if he suddenly hits good against lefties again next season it will raise. The more I think about this and reading the post you quoted the more it bothers me. I don't understand why they have to make things so major, just make it a +4 or +5 max increase/decrease. Or give us a slider to control the amount of increase/decrease like NBA2k lets you have sliders for pretty much everything. Maybe there are people who want that large of a decrease but I know many of us don't.

The code is locked but they are always great about patches improving gameplay, this is something we need to raise noise about and maybe it will be tweaked.

[bcruise]

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Luis confirmed morale will integrate into a carry-over save. It's just generated the first time you load up the franchise in 16.

[PhilliesFan13]

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I agree, Citizens Bank Park is pretty spot on, the only thing that annoys me about it is that all of the concession stands are completely empty in the park. It looks real bad in ashburn alley and on the one that's in the left field scoreboard porch.

I'm actually glad CBP doesn't really need anything done to it. Less worrying about something being changed or not.

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