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  • RaychelSnr
    Executive Editor
    • Jan 2007
    • 4845

    #1

    Where Are the Tennis Games?


    The sports gaming season is quickly approaching. We’ve got two hotly anticipated titles releasing this March in the form of EA Sports UFC 2 and MLB The Show 16. Golf and hockey have returned in very real ways. There are even sports that have multiple publishers vying for consumer dollars. What an exciting time to own a console.

    But where's the love for tennis games?

    The only place to play tennis on the current generation of consoles is in the parks, homes and country clubs of Los Santos in Rockstar’s Grand Theft Auto V. It’s a very passable representation of the sport, but I would rather my post-match decisions dealt with upgrading my attributes rather than deciding what car to steal.

    The last tennis simulation to appear on consoles was 2K Sports’ Top Spin 4 way back in 2011. It was critically acclaimed and 2K Czech won many awards for their efforts. So why are we five years removed with still no tennis game on the horizon? It seems to me that the problem is twofold: Tennis games don’t sell well, and development costs are very high.

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  • snc237
    Rookie
    • Jul 2013
    • 439

    #2
    The problem is the game will probably be 60 bucks. I would be willing to pay maybe 20. I just feel like tennis games can't be enjoyed for along period of time like other sports games are. It's to one dimensional.

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    • Fraser G.
      Rookie
      • Feb 2016
      • 67

      #3
      Originally posted by snc237
      The problem is the game will probably be 60 bucks. I would be willing to pay maybe 20. I just feel like tennis games can't be enjoyed for along period of time like other sports games are. It's to one dimensional.
      I'd gladly pay 60 bucks for a new Top Spin, it's pretty much the only reason I boot up my Xbox 360 anymore.

      I want to see Big Ant Studios give it a try. They're making games based on cricket and lacrosse that don't need a great deal of licensing as they've got clever customization features to get around it.

      To be honest, I could deal with a lack of tennis games if Top Spin 4 was made backwards compatible on Xbox One.

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      • detroitlions12
        Rookie
        • Jan 2009
        • 35

        #4
        I would definitely buy one. Tennis is one of my favorite sports to watch as I just love the cat and mouse game that happens throughout the match. I've been wondering if there would be a tennis game on this generation of console for awhile, I hope it happens.

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        • KennyJ1976
          Rookie
          • Jan 2014
          • 402

          #5
          Originally posted by snc237
          The problem is the game will probably be 60 bucks. I would be willing to pay maybe 20. I just feel like tennis games can't be enjoyed for along period of time like other sports games are. It's to one dimensional.
          I'm guessing you never played Top Spin 4. I'm not the biggest tennis fan in the world but Top Spin 4 was a very exciting and challenging game. The career mode was pretty good but what I enjoyed most was playing real life competition in a gruelling 5 set match. All I felt was missing was commentary, a couple of more pros, and of course a licensed Wimbledon. I can't speak for Grand Slam Tennis, but Top Spin 5, if improved over 4, would definitely be worth a $60 purchase.

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          • AuditMonkey
            Rookie
            • Jan 2014
            • 77

            #6
            I still love Top Spin 4! I would absolutely buy a new next gen good tennis game.

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            • richgrisham
              Rookie
              • Apr 2012
              • 21

              #7
              You're leaving out the most important word:

              Licensing

              The costs to license any real players, tournaments, and stadiums/courts (like Wimbledon and the U.S. Open, for example) are extraordinarily high. You'd have to spend millions of dollars with all of those entities before you even begin building the game, and that's why we don't see - and never will see - another big-time tennis game again.

              No one would buy an unlicensed tennis game, and no one can afford the costs for the license when you combine the costs of development to create something new on the new PS4/Xbox One console generation.

              Heck, the last licensed tennis game was Grand Slam by EA, which had all the licensed big-time tournaments and a small, but powerful, group of real players. It sold terribly, and will never be heard from again.

              So they're gone, and they're never coming back. Which is a shame, but the sport and the industry have done this to themselves.

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              • rangerrick012
                All Star
                • Jan 2010
                • 6201

                #8
                Originally posted by richgrisham
                You're leaving out the most important word:

                Licensing

                The costs to license any real players, tournaments, and stadiums/courts (like Wimbledon and the U.S. Open, for example) are extraordinarily high. You'd have to spend millions of dollars with all of those entities before you even begin building the game, and that's why we don't see - and never will see - another big-time tennis game again.

                No one would buy an unlicensed tennis game, and no one can afford the costs for the license when you combine the costs of development to create something new on the new PS4/Xbox One console generation.

                Heck, the last licensed tennis game was Grand Slam by EA, which had all the licensed big-time tournaments and a small, but powerful, group of real players. It sold terribly, and will never be heard from again.

                So they're gone, and they're never coming back. Which is a shame, but the sport and the industry have done this to themselves.
                Gst sold badly because it was a bad game. Top Spin from what I recall sold decently globally and still has a community that plays it online to this day.

                The best route would be an independent developer allowing user generated courts and content if licencing fees are too much of an issue, ala The Golf Club. Every argument you use for tennis can be used for golf tenfold, yet TGC has a loyal following because it's a GOOD GAME. Bottom line is if there was a developer willing to make a great tennis game for real tennis fans and not just a money grab for casuals, it would sell and have a following.
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                • Monsieur Aymeric
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 9

                  #9
                  Originally posted by richgrisham
                  You're leaving out the most important word:

                  Licensing

                  The costs to license any real players, tournaments, and stadiums/courts (like Wimbledon and the U.S. Open, for example) are extraordinarily high. You'd have to spend millions of dollars with all of those entities before you even begin building the game, and that's why we don't see - and never will see - another big-time tennis game again.

                  No one would buy an unlicensed tennis game, and no one can afford the costs for the license when you combine the costs of development to create something new on the new PS4/Xbox One console generation.

                  Heck, the last licensed tennis game was Grand Slam by EA, which had all the licensed big-time tournaments and a small, but powerful, group of real players. It sold terribly, and will never be heard from again.

                  So they're gone, and they're never coming back. Which is a shame, but the sport and the industry have done this to themselves.
                  How come there never was an ATP licensed game just like say the PGA ? Wouldn't it reduce the cost of licensing instead of negotiating individually with each top player ?

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                  • richgrisham
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 21

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rangerrick012
                    Gst sold badly because it was a bad game. Top Spin from what I recall sold decently globally and still has a community that plays it online to this day.

                    The best route would be an independent developer allowing user generated courts and content if licencing fees are too much of an issue, ala The Golf Club. Every argument you use for tennis can be used for golf tenfold, yet TGC has a loyal following because it's a GOOD GAME. Bottom line is if there was a developer willing to make a great tennis game for real tennis fans and not just a money grab for casuals, it would sell and have a following.
                    I love The Golf Club and agree that it's a viable model - however, the developer had a HUGE advantage there - they already had a lot of the tools to create golf courses and the mechanics of golf itself because of years of doing outsourcing work for EA's "lesser" versions of Tiger Woods (i.e. porting a version to the Wii so EA's main dev time is dedicated to Xbox 360/PS3 version).

                    Plus, the TGC dev team self-published, did early access on Steam, and went very wide. And while TGC appears to have been successful, I don't think it's been a massive runaway success in terms of revenue. I sure hope it's been profitable, because I'd love another update or new version in the future.

                    Anyone starting today with tennis basically has to start from scratch. That's such a huge risk in an unproven market that I don't see anyone doing it.

                    But I hope I am wrong!

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                    • thehip41
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 18

                      #11
                      Re: Where Are the Tennis Games?

                      Tennis Elbow on Steam. Get the Sams MegaMod.

                      Its the best tennis game ever.

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                      • bxphenom7
                        Pro
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 593

                        #12
                        Man, I miss Virtua Tennis. A tennis game is long overdue. I never tried Top Spin but I'd like to see 2k make another effort at a tennis game.

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                        • StubbyStan
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 15

                          #13
                          Originally posted by richgrisham
                          You're leaving out the most important word:

                          Licensing

                          The costs to license any real players, tournaments, and stadiums/courts (like Wimbledon and the U.S. Open, for example) are extraordinarily high. You'd have to spend millions of dollars with all of those entities before you even begin building the game, and that's why we don't see - and never will see - another big-time tennis game again.

                          No one would buy an unlicensed tennis game, and no one can afford the costs for the license when you combine the costs of development to create something new on the new PS4/Xbox One console generation.

                          Heck, the last licensed tennis game was Grand Slam by EA, which had all the licensed big-time tournaments and a small, but powerful, group of real players. It sold terribly, and will never be heard from again.

                          So they're gone, and they're never coming back. Which is a shame, but the sport and the industry have done this to themselves.
                          I did so intentionally. Perhaps it's naivety on my part but part of the belief is that the developer starts small, with a marquee star or license. If they achieve some success, then branch out to getting the ATP, the WTA, or Grand Slam license.

                          It would be great to use The Golf Club's UGC model but the game doesn't really lend itself to doing that in a very real way. Outside of choosing one of three different styles of courts the only thing other thing to create is a the stadium which I think can get deep into the weeds.

                          Thanks for reading, commenting, and challenging the piece! I'm so happy that it's sparking conversation & renewed vigor in a sport that more than deserves the interest!

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                          • bmwninja
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 11

                            #14
                            who should make it

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                            • StubbyStan
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 15

                              #15
                              Originally posted by richgrisham
                              I love The Golf Club and agree that it's a viable model - however, the developer had a HUGE advantage there - they already had a lot of the tools to create golf courses and the mechanics of golf itself because of years of doing outsourcing work for EA's "lesser" versions of Tiger Woods (i.e. porting a version to the Wii so EA's main dev time is dedicated to Xbox 360/PS3 version).

                              Plus, the TGC dev team self-published, did early access on Steam, and went very wide. And while TGC appears to have been successful, I don't think it's been a massive runaway success in terms of revenue. I sure hope it's been profitable, because I'd love another update or new version in the future.

                              Anyone starting today with tennis basically has to start from scratch. That's such a huge risk in an unproven market that I don't see anyone doing it.

                              But I hope I am wrong!
                              What about a Rockstar game utilizing RAGE? They've already made the game. It's pretty okay in GTA 5 and a little bit more time in the oven could turn those systems into something that it fully realized.

                              Maybe a tennis game is a little too low profile for the Rockstar folks but people would have said the same thing before Table Tennis debuted.

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