Offline Franchise v Cloud Franchise

**Mattanite** · 03-09-2016, 05:49 AM

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You already identified the biggest plus for online franchises, which is online league. There are few benefits to playing single player franchise online as the autosave feature means everything you do is permanent instantly and there is no "re-do" when it comes to free agency, sim-injuries, drafting etc. However the 3 benefits that come to mind are:

Superior simulation times - Advancing a week is unbelievably fast, when I was testing for the QB progression and un-retirement threads using online made it a lot faster.
XP sliders - only introduced in a recent patch, they are an online only feature and if you don't like the slow progression this year online is the only way.
Realistic sim-football - The autosave feature can be a benefit too, only drafting once and having a single opportunity to sign/resign players really puts the pressure on running a franchise as you have to have a great draft board ready, trade up when scared, offer above average contracts with high amounts of guaranteed money just to have a player stay with you.

There may be other benefits that I haven't realised too. I prefer offline though as the CPU makes some boneheaded decisions every offseason and reloading a draft when the Buccaneers draft a QB is a must for me.

**powercord55** · 03-09-2016, 06:46 AM

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Thanks for the reply.

Do people seriously reload a save if they're not happy with something that happened in a game or to cheat in the draft? Seems very petulant to me.

I had heard about the slower load times, that's the only issue I guess. But it's not worth paying $10 a month for Xbox live so I can play a single player franchise - which is just a rort

**Toupal** · 03-09-2016, 08:06 AM

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For me, I'm an offline guy, always have and always will be.

But, I tried doing the online thing this year, and I really didn't notice much of a difference besides having to depend on my wifi connection.

I still don't understand why they decided to switch from franchise mode to CFM, because to me, unless you're playing against other real people, it's just an inconvenience.

I just wish madden would finally separate online and offline, and just build to each other's strengths.

**Mattanite** · 03-09-2016, 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by powercord55

Do people seriously reload a save if they're not happy with something that happened in a game or to cheat in the draft? Seems very petulant to me.

With the progression system being heavily weighted on stats, a big injury to a QB can derail a franchise, added to this the a lot of superstar QBs come in each draft then I reload if a major injury happens too often whilst simming a week. I don't want to get to year 3+ in my CFM and have few recognisable names as the draft players take over.

There are lots of injuries I will keep as it tells a story, big name player goes down, back-up makes the probowl etc. I like to see that on other teams.

As for the CPU logic during the draft and free agency, it can be awful... so reloading at the beginning of free agency or the start of the draft and rerunning it so the CPU signs different players is okay... otherwise I'd have to go into certain teams and control coaches which takes a lot longer. CPU will draft 4-3 players in the 3-4, 1st round QBs despite having spent a 1st round the previous year etc

**powercord55** · 03-09-2016, 09:18 PM

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Thanks to everyone for the replies. From what I can gather, there is no point in keeping my Xbox Live account just to play franchise, so I'll ditch that and my cloud franchise and just go back to offline.

Originally posted by Geodude

With the progression system being heavily weighted on stats, a big injury to a QB can derail a franchise, added to this the a lot of superstar QBs come in each draft then I reload if a major injury happens too often whilst simming a week. I don't want to get to year 3+ in my CFM and have few recognisable names as the draft players take over.

There are lots of injuries I will keep as it tells a story, big name player goes down, back-up makes the probowl etc. I like to see that on other teams.

As for the CPU logic during the draft and free agency, it can be awful... so reloading at the beginning of free agency or the start of the draft and rerunning it so the CPU signs different players is okay... otherwise I'd have to go into certain teams and control coaches which takes a lot longer. CPU will draft 4-3 players in the 3-4, 1st round QBs despite having spent a 1st round the previous year etc

I get all that, but still figure that's what makes it fun - you could draft a guy who ends up being completely injury prone or a bust - just like real life, you may have to really work to re-build your franchise. Maybe I'm the odd one out, but that's the challenge I love. I get bored when I win back-to-back-to-back superbowls (which inevitably happens eventually irrespective of the difficulty).

**NYJin2011tm** · 03-10-2016, 10:45 AM

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Offline only for me. I have never been an online guy but said this year I'm going to give it a chance but if even one single little mess up from online I'm going back to offline. I get the game when it first came out and go cloud and after setting up everything and ready to play first game... I can't because their server went down. So I said forget this and went back to offline.

As far as getting a major injury or something and starting over... I would never do that, I love it when I get injuries...realism.

**NDAlum** · 03-10-2016, 10:56 AM

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I run an online CFM and it's a blast but yes the DC's are a pain as well as lag here and there.

My solo CFM is offline and I never have to worry about DC's. I can utilize 30-team control to cover up the ridiculously bad CPU AI with regards to draft/re-sign's/roster management in general. I would never take a solo CFM online.

**Helios12787** · 03-11-2016, 02:52 PM

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Yea I mean for me it really comes down to the XP sliders versus 32 team control.

With how notoriously bad the AI is at almost..... well everything, I take offline 32 team control every time.

This also allows me to switch teams if I get bored, control team relocation (I moved the Rams to LA in my current Falcons franchise to coincide with real life).

Also allows me to control the rosters for the CPU in the specific ways I want. For instance, once it gets into the offseason in real life, I start up a new 32 team franchise and update the rosters to coincide with the offseason signings, cuts, retirements, etc. I then let things play out for the most part as the AI sees fit (I will at times jump in if I see something ridiculous, like Julio Jones always being a free agent after year 1 before he re-signed his new deal).

You can also use some of the methods used by a lot of people and use random number generators for re-signings and stuff to keep things spicy while still having some sense of shocking cuts/free agent sightings.

**bfett81** · 03-11-2016, 03:23 PM

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Forgive my ignorance, but how does one take control of all 32 teams in an offline franchise?

**Hooe** · 03-11-2016, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by bfett81

Forgive my ignorance, but how does one take control of all 32 teams in an offline franchise?

Here's where you can find some detailed instructions:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...tructions.html

tl;dr - start an offline franchise with one user character, then add 31 more user characters.

**mlb61** · 03-11-2016, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by powercord55

Thanks to everyone for the replies. From what I can gather, there is no point in keeping my Xbox Live account just to play franchise, so I'll ditch that and my cloud franchise and just go back to offline.

I get all that, but still figure that's what makes it fun - you could draft a guy who ends up being completely injury prone or a bust - just like real life, you may have to really work to re-build your franchise. Maybe I'm the odd one out, but that's the challenge I love. I get bored when I win back-to-back-to-back superbowls (which inevitably happens eventually irrespective of the difficulty).

I have both online and offline franchises. The online is by far the more challenging and satisfying, precisely for the reason you mention. The "total control" and redo/reload to correct CPU logic is video game stuff (don't the Browns wish they could just "restart').

**IdleRace** · 03-12-2016, 03:36 PM

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I play cloud because allot of times in offline after I played a 90 minute game it freezes and I get so mad. I would say one in four games freeze on my right when the game ends.

**powercord55** · 03-12-2016, 11:28 PM

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I just found out that you can turn off your console mid game in an offline franchise and pick it up when you turn it back on again. That's huge for me! I often don't bother playing at all as I figure I haven't got time for a full game. Can't believe I wasted so much time on cloud franchise

**NYJin2011tm** · 03-13-2016, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by powercord55

I just found out that you can turn off your console mid game in an offline franchise and pick it up when you turn it back on again. That's huge for me! I often don't bother playing at all as I figure I haven't got time for a full game. Can't believe I wasted so much time on cloud franchise

Some stats get lost though. Ints are one I know for sure it happens with. I think others have mentioned a few other stats getting lost too.

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