MLB The Show 16 Player Ratings - Top Players at Each Position

[coachprattico2]

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I disagree. He'll prove it again this season.

[letsgomets75]

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I disagree. He'll prove it again this season.

The only thing he's proving this season is that he still can't stay healthy and that 2011 was a fluke, not the real him.

[NYC22]

I personally think Adam Wainwright is under-rated. (yes I am biased but I still believe it)

2nd in Cy Young voting in 2013. 3rd in 2014.

They said that they would throw out injured years but even if they did not throw out his 2015 then he still had a 1.61 ERA in his four starts.

Seriously, just looking ahead of him, how is Dallas Keuchel's last three years of stats average out better than Wainwrights? They have to be taking off points for Wainwrights age or bumping Keuchel for his Cy Young Award, otherwise it doesn't make any sense to me. Wainwright outperformed him in every category in 2014. Wainwright far outperformed him in 2013 as Dallas had a pretty bad year that year, which they say accounts for 1/3 of his rating.

And I am not bagging on Keuchel at all just making a case that Wainwright is underrated.

Jason How many innings did Wainwright pitch last season?

[NYC22]

So Jason Werth an Khris Davis are higher ranked than Brett Gardner? This list is a joke!

[MrOldboy]

MLB The Show 16 Player Ratings - Top Players at Each Position

I am not impressed with Upton, 26 HR and batted .251

Peralta is okay, but in my opinion, not up to Marte. The position that he plays best is LF. In this game, Centerfielders usually get an overall boost going from CF to LF and RF.

Peralta hit a bit more for average and had 17 HRs. Marte had 19 HRs last year and stole 30 bases, and won a gold glove. Forgot to add, he also won Wilson Defensive Player of the Year.

The Shredder operates without bias I don't always agree with The Shredder, but if it says what I want, I agree!

I only listed players that have the same fWAR as Marte. Different players bring different value and Marte's value was roughly the same as the players I listed.

For instance Upton may have only hit .251, but his OBP matched Marte's.

Marte may have hit 2 more home runs than Peralta, but his slugging and OPS were well below Peralta's.

[Dolenz]

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Jason How many innings did Wainwright pitch last season?

Wainwright pitched 28 innings and his injury was not pitching or arm related. Add to that fact that the devs said they threw out injured years for players and you are left with his 2013 and 2014 stats, the years he came in second and third in the Cy Young Voting.

Shoot, even in his 28 innings last year he had a 1.61 era and 20 strikeouts.

Anyway, even at 90 I am not going to hesitate to put him on my squad if I can get him. The fact that he is a gold means I have a chance to get him in my opening day packs and if not then maybe he will be cheaper in the market. I need him for that players who are over 6'4" mission

And the name is Tom

[MetsFan16]

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Though I do know these ratings cannot be changed and altered in Online play, I have never felt that a pitcher rated 84 pitches worse than a pitcher rated 88. It all depends on how you do that day, what difficulty you play on and basically how good you are at pitching. Some days you're unhittable with a 83 overall and some games you're getting hit around with a 90 overall. Though I do know ratings matter and contribute to how good a player is, it doesn't have too much of an effect on gameplay in my eyes.

[Cavicchi]

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I only listed players that have the same fWAR as Marte. Different players bring different value and Marte's value was roughly the same as the players I listed.

For instance Upton may have only hit .251, but his OBP matched Marte's.

Marte may have hit 2 more home runs than Peralta, but his slugging and OPS were well below Peralta's.

I don't see the significance of Upton matching Marte in OBP. You want a player who hit 7 more HRs against a player who hit for higher average and stole more bases and won GG and Wilson defensive Player of the Year? If so, you can have him and I'll take Marte.

Marte is aggressive and will strike out but he does steal bases much better than Peralta, who also strikes out. I believe Kiermaier is an A this year based on his defense. Well, Marte won GG and Wilson defensive player of the year. Now I'm not saying Marte is as good defensively as Kiermaier, but Marte does hit better than him.

Now it's time for war, I mean WAR: Marte 5.3 and Peralta 3.7

[Cavicchi]

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....

The last three years of WAR

Upton 2.6, 3.3, 4.4

Marte 5.5, 5.1, 5.3

Peralta just two years 1.7, 3.7

[tessl]

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Wainwright pitched 28 innings and his injury was not pitching or arm related. Add to that fact that the devs said they threw out injured years for players and you are left with his 2013 and 2014 stats, the years he came in second and third in the Cy Young Voting.

Shoot, even in his 28 innings last year he had a 1.61 era and 20 strikeouts.

Anyway, even at 90 I am not going to hesitate to put him on my squad if I can get him. The fact that he is a gold means I have a chance to get him in my opening day packs and if not then maybe he will be cheaper in the market. I need him for that players who are over 6'4" mission

And the name is Tom

The devs didn't say they "throw out injured years". Fernandez and Harvey had a durability of 42 in the show 15 following injuries in 2014 which caused them to miss all (Harvey) or most (Fernandez) of the season.

[tessl]

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Ellsbury is a top 3 CF in mlb...he was clearly hurt...look at stats before he got hurt....82 is crap and Tanaka is only 88...that's definitely not fair...he lead AL in WHIP and also pitched hurt...you'll see this year what's up and they'll have to update them...glad to hear your a fan tho!

The problem with what you are advocating is around 2,000 players set foot on a MLB field every season and the devs have to base their attributes on statistics. If they start basing it on their opinion of what a guy would have done if this or that would or wouldn't have happened they would have massive complaints about being biased because the attributes wouldn't match reality.

Another thing I see every year at this time when the ratings are revealed is the focus on OVR. The focus should be on attributes. Two players with the save OVR can be significantly different players. A great example is Heyward. If you value a glove in RF he is a dream player who you would value highly. If you prefer a slugger in RF you would likely prefer one of several players with a lower OVR. There are catchers who can hit but have poor defense who will have a similar OVR to a catcher who can't hit but has good defense. The OVR tells you little about those players. There are also players with a good OVR but terrible durability who I wouldn't want in my franchise. I have never traded for a guy or traded a guy away because of his OVR.

[Threeebs]

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I don't see the significance of Upton matching Marte in OBP. You want a player who hit 7 more HRs against a player who hit for higher average and stole more bases and won GG and Wilson defensive Player of the Year? If so, you can have him and I'll take Marte.

Marte is aggressive and will strike out but he does steal bases much better than Peralta, who also strikes out. I believe Kiermaier is an A this year based on his defense. Well, Marte won GG and Wilson defensive player of the year. Now I'm not saying Marte is as good defensively as Kiermaier, but Marte does hit better than him.

Now it's time for war, I mean WAR: Marte 5.3 and Peralta 3.7

The significance in Upton matching Marte's OBP is that they were on base the same amount of time. Just because Upton didn't hit for a better average than Marte doesn mean he wasn't as valuable with the bat. Upton was clearly just unlucky with BABIP.

The reason he's beating him in WAR is because of his defence. Both players are fine players mind you...

[Cavicchi]

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The significance in Upton matching Marte's OBP is that they were on base the same amount of time. Just because Upton didn't hit for a better average than Marte doesn mean he wasn't as valuable with the bat. Upton was clearly just unlucky with BABIP.

The reason he's beating him in WAR is because of his defence. Both players are fine players mind you...

That is an assumption on your part about defense. Batting average and stolen bases are likely also considered aside from defense--that is an assumption on my part.

Upton is rated higher with overall and potential. Meanwhile, The Shredder had Marte as best LF going into this season. Who am I to say The Shredder is wrong? I am in my house and The Shredder is on TV.

[coachprattico2]

I understand everyone's point on my frustration with Jacoby and Tanaka ratings. I get it, their numbers did not reflect the t ype of players they truly are. I am most confident Ellsbury has a good shot at winning come back player of the year. He is too talented and was simply playing through injury. As for Tanaka he looks as strong as ever this spring and I believe his surgery in October helped him a ton. I hope the game will update them through the season.

[Cavicchi]

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If they start basing it on their opinion of what a guy would have done if this or that would or wouldn't have happened they would have massive complaints about being biased because the attributes wouldn't match reality.

I surmise from that you infer attributes reflect reality in this game. Okay, please explain to me why Salvador Perez has a blocking rating of 70 while Posey has 86? They have the same amount of passed balls from 2013 to 2014 and the attribute rating of 70 is in TS 15.

I am pretty sure Perez was still an 82 in the Catcher ratings. I suspect that 82 includes that 70 for blocking. I won't go into his reaction rating, but for a player who has won consecutive GG awards, three years in a row, I think he deserves better. Anyway, please do get back to me why his blocking rating is 70 while Posey has 86.

Thank you!