EA Sports UFC 2 Game Update 1.04 Removes Religious Victory Celebration

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  • Steve_OS
    Editor-in-Chief
    • Jul 2002
    • 33611

    #1

    EA Sports UFC 2 Game Update 1.04 Removes Religious Victory Celebration


    A new EA Sports UFC 2 game update has arrived for PlayStation 4 users, soon for Xbox One. The update removes a religious animation, which can be seen here, that randomly played after a winner was announced.

    This animation was noticed by Khabib Nurmagomedov, who is Muslim, and posted messages on his Twitter account and a follow up message from EA on his Instagram account.

    EA quickly took action and have officially removed the celebration from the game on the PlayStation 4, with the same update coming to Xbox One very soon.
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  • Tybudd
    Rookie
    • Sep 2012
    • 218

    #2
    You allowed your game to give glory to our Lord and Savior, and then you publicly take it out. Thank you EA for securing my stand on NEVER buying another game of yours, was honestly contemplating it.

    You could have done this on the DL, but you decide to make it seem like a shame to be in your game...

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    • Tybudd
      Rookie
      • Sep 2012
      • 218

      #3
      Originally posted by Tybudd
      You allowed your game to give glory to our Lord and Savior, and then you publicly take it out. Thank you EA for securing my stand on NEVER buying another game of yours, was honestly contemplating it.

      You could have done this on the DL, but you decide to make it seem like a shame to be in your game...
      If this is the case "EA Sports its in the Game" shouldn't be your slogan!!!

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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106

        #4
        Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Game Update 1.04 Removes Religious Victory Celebrations

        Originally posted by Tybudd
        You allowed your game to give glory to our Lord and Savior, and then you publicly take it out. Thank you EA for securing my stand on NEVER buying another game of yours, was honestly contemplating it.

        You could have done this on the DL, but you decide to make it seem like a shame to be in your game...
        You obviously have no idea why this was an issue. One of the top fighters in the UFC (Khabib Nurmegamedov) is a muslim and it was disrespectful to his religion to have his character make the sign of the cross after winning a fight. Because that celebration was random and he doesnt have a signature celebration, his character could be randomly assigned that celebration.

        There shouldnt be any religious (Christian, Muslim, Buddhist etc) celebrations in the game that can be randomly assigned to fighters who worship a different religion.

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        • Tybudd
          Rookie
          • Sep 2012
          • 218

          #5
          Originally posted by aholbert32
          You obviously have no idea why this was an issue. One of the top fighters in the UFC (Khabib Nurmegamedov) is a muslim and it was disrespectful to his religion to have his character make the sign of the cross after winning a fight. Because that celebration was random and he doesnt have a signature celebration, his character could be randomly assigned that celebration.

          There shouldnt be any religious (Christian, Muslim, Buddhist etc) celebrations in the game that can be randomly assigned to fighters who worship a different religion.
          You pretty much gave the answer of what should have been done, the characters that actually do the animation should have been left to do so, and for it not to be random, what kinda BS oversight was that??

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          • aholbert32
            (aka Alberto)
            • Jul 2002
            • 33106

            #6
            Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Game Update 1.04 Removes Religious Victory Celebrations

            Originally posted by Tybudd
            You pretty much gave the answer of what should have been done, the characters that actually do the animation should have been left to do so, and for it not to be random, what kinda BS oversight was that??
            It was a random animation. There were no fighters that had that celebration as their signature celebration. It was one of several random animations they gave for guys who dont have a signature animation.

            Its not like there were Christian fighters in the game who had this as their only and signature animation and they removed it, you would have a point. But no one did. It was a randomly generated animation. Its not like they replaced it with a Muslim prayer animation.

            They did the right thing by removing entirely. I dont play a MMA game to see religious symbolism. While there are millions of people who believe Christ is as you said "their lord and savior", there are millions who dont and dont care to see religious celebrations in the game.
            Last edited by aholbert32; 03-24-2016, 11:41 PM.

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            • sactown_13
              Pro
              • Nov 2011
              • 479

              #7
              Originally posted by Tybudd
              You allowed your game to give glory to our Lord and Savior, and then you publicly take it out. Thank you EA for securing my stand on NEVER buying another game of yours, was honestly contemplating it.

              You could have done this on the DL, but you decide to make it seem like a shame to be in your game...
              Bet you play madden in August
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              • oakevin
                Rookie
                • Aug 2009
                • 314

                #8
                Originally posted by aholbert32
                It was a random animation. There were no fighters that had that celebration as their signature celebration. It was one of several random animations they gave for guys who dont have a signature animation.

                Its not like there were Christian fighters in the game who had this as their only and signature animation and they removed it, you would have a point. But no one did. It was a randomly generated animation. Its not like they replaced it with a Muslim prayer animation.

                They did the right thing by removing entirely. I dont play a MMA game to see religious symbolism. While there are millions of people who believe Christ is as you said "their lord and savior", there are millions who dont and dont care to see religious celebrations in the game.
                *Shakes berts hand*

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                • Tybudd
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 218

                  #9
                  Originally posted by sactown_13
                  Bet you play madden in August
                  lol, hadn't played Madden in 10 years, but for other reasons

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                  • Tybudd
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 218

                    #10
                    Originally posted by aholbert32
                    It was a random animation. There were no fighters that had that celebration as their signature celebration. It was one of several random animations they gave for guys who dont have a signature animation.

                    Its not like there were Christian fighters in the game who had this as their only and signature animation and they removed it, you would have a point. But no one did. It was a randomly generated animation. Its not like they replaced it with a Muslim prayer animation.

                    They did the right thing by removing entirely. I dont play a MMA game to see religious symbolism. While there are millions of people who believe Christ is as you said "their lord and savior", there are millions who dont and dont care to see religious celebrations in the game.
                    I understand your point, and your angle, but for that particular Animation to be pinpointed just looks bad, there has been games in the past that have made changes, and the patch notes are so vague that you actually have to play the game to see what the changes were.

                    Still goes back to their slogan, don't matter if you bought your MMA to see the symbolism, in real life it exist.

                    EA SPORTs It Might be in the Game

                    I fixed it...

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                    • oakevin
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 314

                      #11
                      You aren't understanding the point.... Khabib is a Muslim,they gave him a Christian celebration.He complained and rightfully so. Gotta make changes.

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                      • aholbert32
                        (aka Alberto)
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 33106

                        #12
                        Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Game Update 1.04 Removes Religious Victory Celebrations

                        Originally posted by Tybudd
                        I understand your point, and your angle, but for that particular Animation to be pinpointed just looks bad, there has been games in the past that have made changes, and the patch notes are so vague that you actually have to play the game to see what the changes were.

                        Still goes back to their slogan, don't matter if you bought your MMA to see the symbolism, in real life it exist.

                        EA SPORTs It Might be in the Game

                        I fixed it...
                        Again, Khabib tweeted about it. Several major MMA websites picked up the story. It was bad press for EA. It would be unbelievably stupid for them to be vague about this change given the negative attention this mistake made.

                        That slogan argument is lame. Nick Diaz flips off his opponent in damn near every fight but that isnt in the game. Why.....because that would be offensive to some people. Rashad Evans has grabbed his crotch in several fights but its not in the game. Why....because that would be offensive to some people.

                        Religious celebrations are no longer in the game. Why....because that would be offensive to some people.

                        I dont have an angle here. Im just shocked at how narrowminded some people are when it comes to stuff like this.

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                        • Hayden
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2016
                          • 75

                          #13
                          Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Game Update 1.04 Removes Religious Victory Celebrations

                          How the hell does it take an 800 mb patch or so just to fix this?

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                          • Freakywwe
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 845

                            #14
                            Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Game Update 1.04 Removes Religious Victory Celebrations

                            Originally posted by Hayden
                            How the hell does it take an 800 mb patch or so just to fix this?
                            This is the real issue

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                            • Speedy
                              #Ace
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 16143

                              #15
                              Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Game Update 1.04 Removes Religious Victory Celebration

                              Originally posted by Tybudd
                              You allowed your game to give glory to our Lord and Savior, and then you publicly take it out. Thank you EA for securing my stand on NEVER buying another game of yours, was honestly contemplating it.

                              You could have done this on the DL, but you decide to make it seem like a shame to be in your game...
                              I would love to discuss the first statement but I cannot due to the TOS.

                              As far as EA's actions here, they felt they misrepresented a fighter and wanted to address it. To present a (somewhat extreme) parallel, that's like if NBA2K16 had LeBron wearing UA sneakers...such action would likely provoke outrage from LeBron and others.

                              EA has a huge partnership with the athletes in these games, a partnership any developer strives to maintain in congruence with the affiliated professional sports league...being they felt they offended one of these athletes, doing it on the "DL" and privately would be the worst decision.
                              Originally posted by Gibson88
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                              It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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