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  • bfindeisen
    Pro
    • Mar 2008
    • 793

    #1

    Bad Psychology in the Community Market

    I cannot, for the life of me, understand the thought process of some of these people in the community market. What is the possible reasoning for listing cards anything more than 1 stub less in the Seller market? And in most cases, what is the possible reasoning behind listing a Buy order more than 1 stub more than the top Bid?

    It makes no logical sense, especially on the Sell side. It's not like your card will sell faster by listing it 100's less. The first person to come by to buy that card is going to pay whatever the market price is...so by listing cards so far below the last listing, you're compressing the market and making all the sellers take less...including yourself. I just don't get it.
    Last edited by bfindeisen; 04-13-2016, 07:41 PM.
  • bacon96
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    • Feb 2013
    • 1963

    #2
    re: Bad Psychology in the Community Market

    They want to get as many stubs as possible and they don't care if they're being a **** about it because it's anonymous.

    I'd like to see SDS let us pick which price to buy/sell at within the top 10 shown because I'd always buy the one that is selling for 1 more stub.
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    • ScouserHUN
      Pro
      • Oct 2010
      • 510

      #3
      re: Bad Psychology in the Community Market

      This!

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      • RnRexpress3423
        Pro
        • Aug 2010
        • 604

        #4
        re: Bad Psychology in the Community Market

        Every time I get outbid, I'm just over here wondering which one of you OS guys undercut me lol

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        • bfindeisen
          Pro
          • Mar 2008
          • 793

          #5
          re: Bad Psychology in the Community Market

          Originally posted by bacon96
          They want to get as many stubs as possible and they don't care if they're being a **** about it because it's anonymous.

          I'd like to see SDS let us pick which price to buy/sell at within the top 10 shown because I'd always buy the one that is selling for 1 more stub.
          Well that doesn't make any sense either. Everyone wants more stubbs. By under-listing and over-listing you're guaranteeing less stubbs...for everyone including yourself. The only possible reasoning I can see is that they think it will sell faster or something, even though that doesn't matter. If someone is buying that card, they're gonna pay whatever the market price is, regardless.

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          • baseballsim
            MVP
            • Jun 2009
            • 1279

            #6
            re: Bad Psychology in the Community Market

            Sometimes are mistakes made. It happens to me sometimes on the console. I go through the menus too quickly and before I know it I bought the highest bid. Also, most everyone is looking to get their stubs quickly and don't have patience. I'm the same way and I'm sure most others are the same.
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            • BlessingSpore72
              MVP
              • Nov 2014
              • 1085

              #7
              re: Bad Psychology in the Community Market

              I saw a card today, cant remember which one but it was a high gold over 10,000 stubs and the spread was 180 stubs. If you want that player just spend the extra 180 stubs and buy it now. Dont put in an order. These margins are so tight when im trying to flip
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              • GodOfNugget
                Rookie
                • Jul 2015
                • 25

                #8
                re: Bad Psychology in the Community Market

                I do this. Say someone is elling a Chris Davis at 9999 stubs, instead of putting 9998 stubs I'll put 9995 or 9990. I probably do this as an OCD thing because I like nice square numbers LOL

                Also, sometimes I'd undercut someone by say 100 stubs in the above scenario. Usually when I do that it's because I see the card is being repeatedly undercut often by many sellers. I do this because hopefully those who are typing in and submitting their next undercut bid at the same time as me will still end up with higher bids than mine that is 100 under rather than theirs that is 50 or 1 stub under. Really the key to flipping cards in the community market is making sure your card/bid spends as much time possible in the lowest/highest buy/sell now order position, by whatever means possible.

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                • TheBigTee
                  Do Your Job
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 464

                  #9
                  re: Bad Psychology in the Community Market

                  Yeah I agree with the post above. Just seems like posting it one stub less or more is kind of a dick move. The only way I do it is if someone does it to me first.


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                  • Foldzy
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 1627

                    #10
                    re: Bad Psychology in the Community Market

                    Has anyone actually had success flipping cards? Every now and then I give it a try but it requires way too much time and patience for very little profit

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                    • bfindeisen
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 793

                      #11
                      re: Bad Psychology in the Community Market

                      Originally posted by GodOfNugget
                      I do this. Say someone is elling a Chris Davis at 9999 stubs, instead of putting 9998 stubs I'll put 9995 or 9990. I probably do this as an OCD thing because I like nice square numbers LOL

                      Also, sometimes I'd undercut someone by say 100 stubs in the above scenario. Usually when I do that it's because I see the card is being repeatedly undercut often by many sellers. I do this because hopefully those who are typing in and submitting their next undercut bid at the same time as me will still end up with higher bids than mine that is 100 under rather than theirs that is 50 or 1 stub under. Really the key to flipping cards in the community market is making sure your card/bid spends as much time possible in the lowest/highest buy/sell now order position, by whatever means possible.
                      Yeah that may work for 1 minute, but as soon as someone else wants to sell, they'll just go lower than your bid. So essentially, all you did was lower the Sell price for everyone. If you stuck to only reducing by 1, there would be much more "meat on the bone".

                      It's all about timing. If you happen to be the first card listed for sale (regardless of how much lower you listed it for), you'll earn whatever the market price is. By lowering you bids by more than 1, you're just lowering your own potential profit.
                      Last edited by bfindeisen; 04-13-2016, 07:01 PM.

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                      • bfindeisen
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 793

                        #12
                        re: Bad Psychology in the Community Market

                        Originally posted by Foldzy
                        Has anyone actually had success flipping cards? Every now and then I give it a try but it requires way too much time and patience for very little profit
                        How much profit do you consider "worth it"?

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                        • GodOfNugget
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2015
                          • 25

                          #13
                          re: Bad Psychology in the Community Market

                          Originally posted by bfindeisen
                          Yeah that may work for 1 minute, but as soon as someone else wants to sell, they'll just go lower than your bid. So essentially, all you did was lower the Sell price for everyone. If you stuck to only reducing by 1, there would be much more "meat on the bone".

                          It's all about timing. If you happen to be the first card listed for sale (regardless of how much lower you listed it for), you'll earn whatever the market price is. By lowering you bids by more than 1, you're just lowering your own potential profit. Please tell me you get this. This isn't a debate; it's basic economic principles.
                          1 minute? I'll gladly take 1 minute with the best sell/buy order in exchange for 100 coins. For me it's all about quickly flipping cards. The last thing I want is to be caught in a +/-1 stub bidding war and only have a 50% chance of getting the buy/sell now order fulfilled. All the time I'm spending outbidding by 1 stub on this particular order, I can be using to outbid/find other flips. The faster you can flip cards the better. A card that takes a long time to flip for a profit is almost considered a loss for me because of the time/stubs tied up into it. All about getting stubs/cards moving in and out as quick as possible. For me at least I guess.

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                          • NKRDIBL
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 307

                            #14
                            re: Bad Psychology in the Community Market

                            I am confused exactly what the OP is mad about, are you mad at guys for outbidding you to high or low, based on their impatience? I have no problem with this, since the market usually balance's it self out. If someone want's to undercut, good for them. They will sell their card quicker and move on from it, you can still wait it out and sell your card for the same price. So I am unsure why it bothers you, when your example is they should just wait, when you are getting upset about having to wait?
                            Last edited by NKRDIBL; 04-13-2016, 05:33 PM.

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                            • pitfallharry219
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 49

                              #15
                              re: Bad Psychology in the Community Market

                              I really can't understand how some of you are so dense to not understand what the OP means. Let's say you want to sell a Freddie Freeman card. The current lowest buy listing is 1,000. You want to undercut that so your card sells first. Why would you put your price at anything other than 999?

                              I'm not sure I can make it any simpler, so if you still don't get it, then may God have mercy on your soul.

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