Do You Care About Dangerous Hits in Madden?

[Del Val Events]

Re: Do You Care About Dangerous Hits in Madden?

Big hits play a much bigger part in real football than they do in Madden.


Upping their impact on Madden would only be an improvement.


Balance is important though. Make the players land them. No auto or suction aspects to big hits, please.

[UFCMPunk]

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The only question we have to ask ourselves when it comes to this subject is this. Is the NFL willing to work with EA in allowing "big hits" or "dangerous hits" allowing it in Madden but properly doing so? I get it, the NFL had concussions removed from Madden because of concussion issues. If the NFL and EA worked together, make it reflect real life and players would have to sit out a play or two after getting a head injury just like in real life.

EA would have to implement some alert system in the "Things To Do" menu within CFM where you would check on the status of a player with a concussion. You then get the report of how long he will be out and each week you'll have a status alert that informs you his progress and when he is fully healed.

That's a good compromise to bring back Concussions into the game. Then work together on how to properly handle other injuries within Madden. Then certain hits would be penalized, work with EA on when a certain hit is made and animation is done, a flag is thrown to reflect what we see on Sundays. That way you don't sacrifice big hits, and now you can teach people in Madden how the NFL handles injuries and the safety, etc.

[Dr Death]

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The only question we have to ask ourselves when it comes to this subject is this. Is the NFL willing to work with EA in allowing "big hits" or "dangerous hits" allowing it in Madden but properly doing so? I get it, the NFL had concussions removed from Madden because of concussion issues. If the NFL and EA worked together, make it reflect real life and players would have to sit out a play or two after getting a head injury just like in real life.

EA would have to implement some alert system in the "Things To Do" menu within CFM where you would check on the status of a player with a concussion. You then get the report of how long he will be out and each week you'll have a status alert that informs you his progress and when he is fully healed.

That's a good compromise to bring back Concussions into the game. Then work together on how to properly handle other injuries within Madden. Then certain hits would be penalized, work with EA on when a certain hit is made and animation is done, a flag is thrown to reflect what we see on Sundays. That way you don't sacrifice big hits, and now you can teach people in Madden how the NFL handles injuries and the safety, etc.

You make a very good and valid point!!! It cracks me up when I hear that the NFL wants so much control over a video game... in the uniform error thread someone actually said that teams play in their uniforms because that's what the NFL wants, instead of allowing us to dress them in throwback unis.

But what's really crazy is all this control they have, we still see ridiculous stuff like players being hit out of bounds, that in real life, would definitely draw a flag. You see it on kickoff returns a lot.

But your point is great... if the NFL loosens up, they could help teach people - mostly kids - but they could teach them the right and wrong way to play the game of football. But I seriously doubt that the NFL will ever see it that way. So...

[Gridiron]

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I always revert to the standard that it is a game played from a couch by using fingers and buttons. No matter how realistic the games become, there is always a power or reset button. Games can only mimic reality and never become reality.

When I play EA's NHL game, NBA 2K, and MLB The Show, I forget I'm playing a video game. That's how realistic those games are. That's where Madden needs to get to.

[roadman]

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Eh, game play with 2k, I am reminded I am playing a video game. They get more right than they get wrong, but there are some glaring issues.

[SageInfinite]

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Eh, game play with 2k, I am reminded I am playing a video game. They get more right than they get wrong, but there are some glaring issues.

No game is perfect but there's enough there to suspend reality longer than Madden. There's an effort there missing in Madden games.

[prhiam]

I'll echo the sentiment that there are many more important things to fix in Madden before I even start to think about dangerous hits. They need to re-program the entire player movement system before they start going in on hits.

[roadman]

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No game is perfect but there's enough there to suspend reality longer than Madden. There's an effort there missing in Madden games.

I want to be clear I wasn't saying they are on par with one another in game play, but I stopped playing 2k back around January because of my issues with the game.

[Scott]

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Keep it on topic.

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[bakan723]

Of course ppl want to see big hits in a Football game...duh.

"Knowing what we know about concussions and head injuries, is it awkward to want crippling hits in our football video games?"

WTF am I reading here.

I think ppl that are around things too much start to overthink things like this.

[Candyman5]

I dont mind big hits, its the hit stick that needs to go.

[4thQtrStre5S]

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I dont mind big hits, its the hit stick that needs to go.

I would have to argue that the hit stick should stay in game, and what needs to be addressed is better animations and player bracing for a hit they are logically aware of, such as a defender coming straight at a ball carrier head on; any real person would brace, lower a shoulder or try to truck through the opposition; in Madden the ball carrier stays upright and runs right into most big hits.

[Gridiron]

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I would have to argue that the hit stick should stay in game, and what needs to be addressed is better animations and player bracing for a hit they are logically aware of, such as a defender coming straight at a ball carrier head on; any real person would brace, lower a shoulder or try to truck through the opposition; in Madden the ball carrier stays upright and runs right into most big hits.

Amen.

[GlennN]

I care very much - that these kinds of hits be included. And that is why football is more fun these days in video games than in real life. I love the bone rattling hit by a safety on a WR daring to go across the middle. Not so much the late hits the posted clips show (those I could do without). I don't like that a defender has to worry about whether an offensive player lowers his head or not. Football is a contact sport - you will get hit. I don't want to see anyone hurt, so I get the new rules in the modern NFL. But I miss the physical intimidation that used to be present. I want that in my videogame version!

[actionhank]

I think the issue comes into play when it's a good hit, or a bad hit, and not just the result of animations not executing properly and looking bad, when the game meant for them to be bad.

I guess the NHL series is my best point to talk from, as I haven't played Madden in years. Also, I think the NHL series is easier to have a more black-and-white look at hits, rather than the potentially grey hits in Madden, judging by these clips.

I think in game bad hits should be realistically punished. I think it's one of the frustrating aspects of the EA series. Aside from the fact that the penalties seem to be entirely random at times (a hit from the side can get you a 5 minute major, while a clear hit from behind can injure your player and only get a 2 minute penalty) there's no suspension, no fines...no reason not to do it.

If you skate into a player without the puck and just level them, you don't get suspended for X number of games, you at worst get kicked out of that game. But if you did it to their star player and injured them, you're hardly at a loss for it.