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Re: Is It Time For The Angels to Trade Mike Trout?
Originally posted by Lovesports
You absolutely do not trade your best player. You build around him. Trade the other crap on the team like Pujols or Weaver.
No team in baseball would take those contracts without the Angels either A) eating most of their contracts or B) including top prospects (which the Angels don't have). So there is essentially no way to get rid of those contracts.
Re: Is It Time For The Angels to Trade Mike Trout?
Originally posted by Jr.
Trout's salary also increases from $16M to $34M next year, so that will lessen some of that salary relief.
I think it's an interesting question. Can they mold themselves into a successful team by the time his contract is up and convince him to stay? Of they can't, I think they should consider trading him in one of the last two years of that deal to try to get something back
We'll see. Last time I heard how they were in such dire straights was 2 years ago, and they ended up winning 98 games. Their budget is limited only by the luxury tax it appears, as Moreno looks to be hesitant to cross it.
I am not sure what the answer is, I am just going to go to that stadium 20 something times a year and watch the best player in baseball do his thing. I was telling my wife how lucky we've been to see him as much as much as we do as he's truly a generational player.
Re: Is It Time For The Angels to Trade Mike Trout?
Originally posted by Lovesports
You absolutely do not trade your best player. You build around him. Trade the other crap on the team like Pujols or Weaver.
Weaver is off the books after this year and Pujols has actually been a lot more productive than people think. Not to mention no one is taking those contracts.
Re: Is It Time For The Angels to Trade Mike Trout?
Originally posted by bkrich83
Weaver is off the books after this year and Pujols has actually been a lot more productive than people think. Not to mention no one is taking those contracts.
I see Albert having a season similar to his last one. Now, that still is not a very good season compared to what they are paying him. But like I was saying, in the end I see Albert having 30-40 homers, a poor OBP, poor defense, and a respectable wRC+ (and this is coming from a big Pujols fan)
Re: Is It Time For The Angels to Trade Mike Trout?
Originally posted by JDiaz1
I see Albert having a season similar to his last one. Now, that still is not a very good season compared to what they are paying him. But like I was saying, in the end I see Albert having 30-40 homers, a poor OBP, poor defense, and a respectable wRC+ (and this is coming from a big Pujols fan)
If they get 30-40 bombs and a OPS+ of 116-125, like they have, there's really not much to complain about. They knew this was coming, but I hear people like yourself talk about Pujols as if he's been completely unproductive since he got here, and that's quite simply not true.
Re: Is It Time For The Angels to Trade Mike Trout?
Originally posted by bkrich83
If they get 30-40 bombs and a OPS+ of 116-125, like they have, there's really not much to complain about. They knew this was coming, but I hear people like yourself talk about Pujols as if he's been completely unproductive since he got here, and that's quite simply not true.
I never said that he has been unproductive. My argument has been that people have been expecting him to produce something along the lines of what the Angels are paying him for (which is not going to happen). He is what he is, he has good power, poor defense, and a poor OBP. He is producing, yes. But there is clear signs of him declining in a big way.
Re: Is It Time For The Angels to Trade Mike Trout?
Originally posted by JDiaz1
I never said that he has been unproductive. My argument has been that people have been expecting him to produce something along the lines of what the Angels are paying him for (which is not going to happen). He is what he is, he has good power, poor defense, and a poor OBP. He is producing, yes. But there is clear signs of him declining in a big way.
He's 36 clearly there's going to be a decline. Who are these people expecting him to do what he did when he was in his prime.
As far as poor defense, that's not really true either. When they let him play defense that is.
Re: Is It Time For The Angels to Trade Mike Trout?
Originally posted by bkrich83
I am not sure what the answer is, I am just going to go to that stadium 20 something times a year and watch the best player in baseball do his thing. I was telling my wife how lucky we've been to see him as much as much as we do as he's truly a generational player.
My biggest regret while I was in SoCal was that I didn't go to an Angels game and watch him play. Hopefully they come to Coors Field sometime in the near future.
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Trading Trout won't solve anything for the Angels.
First off, his return wouldn't bring the Angels back into contention.
Secondly, the Angels season tickets would plummet, and the revenue they make from Trout is irreplacable.
Third, this is on management throwing money around on players that they shouldn't have invested in and now they're paying the price. Not to mention their farm is gutted at this point.
Realistically, their best option right now is to ride on with Trout leading the way and just see if a miracle happens.
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Re: Is It Time For The Angels to Trade Mike Trout?
Originally posted by Steven78
Pujols has had one of the most dramatic declines in MLB history the last few years.
I'd almost bet he was on something back in St Louis.
I don't think so, what everyone is missing is the fact he has been nursing injuries and age but, with that being said during his tenor with the Angels thru 2015 he hit 115 home runs. Not bad at all, that averages out to 28.75 HR per season. Those are still pretty strong numbers for a guy his age. Was the contract they gave him a good one? Probably not, but if I remember correctly the Angels signed a huge $300 million TV deal right about the time they picked up Albert, might have had a lot to do with that. CJ Wilson signing wasn't terrible, he just didn't perform. Josh Hamilton's last year with the Rangers he hit around 43 HR, he never got close to that with his combined time with the Angels.
It's just baseball, they are not the first team to go all in and come up with nothing and they won't be the last. Teams are constantly under performing, the Dodgers in the past few years, the Astros this year and the Red Sox a few years ago went all in and crashed too. It happens. The season is still young, you never know who will step up when it counts.
The Angels rotation really isn't anything near what it could have been, should have been, or might have been. And to top that off, the lineup which looked so formidable for years to come just a couple of short years ago looks downright average now.
Thanks to a horribly lackluster farm system, a bunch of heavy contracts for players not producing, and simply because the team just isn't that good: it may just be time for the whole experiment in Anaheim to be thrown to the wind.
But what do you think? Should the Angels look to trade Mike Trout and begin rebuilding the whole project? Sound off in the comments!
Yes trade him to the Nationals. Strausburg, Harper, AND Trout?!?!
Re: Is It Time For The Angels to Trade Mike Trout?
This should have been a poll for Angels franchise mode: Will You Trade Trout To Rebuild?
If the majority had answered yes, we'd have the definitive answer to which team is hardest to rebuild, & it wouldn't be San Diego lol
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