Should classic stadiums be allowed in ranked multiplayer matches?

[jyoung]

What do you guys think about the classic stadiums like Polo Grounds being allowed in online matches?

It just doesn't feel right to me playing a ranked game in a stadium with 260-foot foul poles and a ridiculously large outfield. I feel like the competitive online modes should be limited to modern MLB fields.

I played a guy last night whose entire offensive and defensive strategy was built for Polo Grounds. He had Ichiro, PEDee, and Lofton in outfield, with gold and diamond power hitters in the rest of his lineup. He kept trying to hit pull/opposite field homers into the corner balconies, and he did get me a couple of times before I finally adjusted my pitching strategy and pulled ahead of him at the end:

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These kinds of games just aren't any fun to play IMO. I would quit out of them before they started if that wouldn't penalize my ranking.

[baseballsim]

Re: Should classic stadiums be allowed in ranked multiplayer matches?

I haven't played there enough this year to remember what is was like on PS3. I do remember after a while I stopped using Polo Grounds. It's fun playing there occasionally.

I wish defensive shifts worked better.

[ZB9]

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I really enjoy playing in the classic stadiums, including the Polo grounds.

They dont come up very often and i wish i did see them more.

If we couldnt use them in online matches, then there would really be no use for them to be in the game and it would be a shame if they took them out of the game.

[55]

Re: Should classic stadiums be allowed in ranked multiplayer matches?

You're allowed to do everything at the plate that your opponent is.

I mean, Coors Field is insane too but it's not like we should ban it.

[TBennz]

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Agreed.

If he's pulling it 290 into the stands, why not just do the same thing?

[Hoosierdaddy76]

Re: Should classic stadiums be allowed in ranked multiplayer matches?

You're allowed to do everything at the plate that your opponent is.

I mean, Coors Field is insane too but it's not like we should ban it.

This. It's a level playing field as you share the same advantages. I personally play in Griffith and force my opponent to play small ball. My home stadium, my advantage.

[jyoung]

Re: Should classic stadiums be allowed in ranked multiplayer matches?

This. It's a level playing field as you share the same advantages. I personally play in Griffith and force my opponent to play small ball. My home stadium, my advantage.

It's not a level playing field though because the home team's lineup is in all likelihood set to play to the strengths of their home field, just like you described.

And the away team doesn't get to see what field they are playing on before they set their lineup.

So the home team in The Show has a big advantage that doesn't exist in real baseball where managers know what kind of field they're playing on before they fill out that day's lineup.

You're allowed to do everything at the plate that your opponent is.

Just because both teams can hit 260-foot home runs and 480-foot fly outs doesn't make it any more realistic. This is supposed to be an MLB simulation game. The shortest home runs in MLB are in the low-300s and the deepest fly outs are in the low-430s. That's a huge difference between what happens to balls in Polo Grounds compared to what happens in every other modern MLB stadium.

I mean, Coors Field is insane too but it's not like we should ban it.

Coors' crazy hitting is more of an altitude issue than a field design issue. It plays like any other ballpark in The Show since there's no altitude factor programmed into the game. It's no big deal to bat or field there.

[55]

Re: Should classic stadiums be allowed in ranked multiplayer matches?

It's not a level playing field though because the home team's lineup is in all likelihood set to play to the strengths of their home field, just like you described.

And the away team doesn't get to see what field they are playing on before they set their lineup.

So the home team in The Show has a big advantage that doesn't exist in real baseball where managers know what kind of field they're playing on before they fill out that day's lineup.



Just because both teams can hit 260-foot home runs and 480-foot fly outs doesn't make it any more realistic. This is supposed to be an MLB simulation game. The shortest home runs in MLB are in the low-300s and the deepest fly outs are in the low-430s. That's a huge difference between what happens to balls in Polo Grounds compared to what happens in every other modern MLB stadium.



Coors' crazy hitting is more of an altitude issue than a field design issue. It plays like any other ballpark in The Show since there's no altitude factor programmed into the game. It's no big deal to bat or field there.

1) The gaps at Coors Field are so deep that I routinely get a lot more doubles and triples there than anywhere else.

2) If this was supposed to be a pure "simulation" then we might as well ban classic players too while we're at it.

3) What's to stop you from picking a stadium that suits your own play style/lineup? A team full of lefty power bats for Yankee Stadium, a team with 5 Diamond starting pitchers and good defensive players at Red Rocks Stadium (my own personal home park) or SafeCo or any number of pitcher's parks, etc.

EDIT- Upon further review of your video, that move you pulled at 2:25 is waaaaaay cheesier than any ballpark. I can't stand when dudes do that online...

[IcyVegeta]

Re: Should classic stadiums be allowed in ranked multiplayer matches?

Upon watching this video and reading this thread I went out and bought Polo Grounds.

[55]

Re: Should classic stadiums be allowed in ranked multiplayer matches?

Upon watching this video and reading this thread I went out and bought Polo Grounds.

Yeah, the home run he gave up to Miggy would have been out of pretty much any ballpark. He hung that pitch really badly so I don't know what the fuss was about. The other one (opposite field shot by *I think* Posey) was the only one anybody could realistically complain about. That was an automatic out anywhere else, but still...

And the inside-the-park HR he gave up was user error as well. Was a routine fly out that he misplayed. It happens to me all the time in multiple ballparks, but I suck at defense!

[IcyVegeta]

Re: Should classic stadiums be allowed in ranked multiplayer matches?

Yeah, the home run he gave up to Miggy would have been out of pretty much any ballpark. He hung that pitch really badly so I don't know what the fuss was about. The other one (opposite field shot by *I think* Posey) was the only one anybody could realistically complain about. That was an automatic out anywhere else, but still...

And the inside-the-park HR he gave up was user error as well. Was a routine fly out that he misplayed. It happens to me all the time in multiple ballparks, but I suck at defense!

Hey, we've all been there. I just think the TS got frustrated over a loss. I think the classic stadiums are a great addition, I hope we get more!

[55]

Re: Should classic stadiums be allowed in ranked multiplayer matches?

Hey, we've all been there. I just think the TS got frustrated over a loss. I think the classic stadiums are a great addition, I hope we get more!

He actually still won the game and pouted about it even though he cheese-stole home (I love you jyoung, but you did) so I really don't get it...

[ZB9]

Re: Should classic stadiums be allowed in ranked multiplayer matches?

Just because both teams can hit 260-foot home runs and 480-foot fly outs doesn't make it any more realistic. This is supposed to be an MLB simulation game. The shortest home runs in MLB are in the low-300s and the deepest fly outs are in the low-430s. That's a huge difference between what happens to balls in Polo Grounds compared to what happens in every other modern MLB stadium.

How is it not "realistic" when the Polo Grounds was an actual real life stadium that the Giants, Yankees, and Mets played in? Those dimensions are a part of baseball history.

Do you want them to remove historical players too?

[mamader9]

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Build a team that can play at any ball park? I have a team that have very fast out fielders and a few guys that hit for power. I have griffith stadium as my home park and i love to play at other diamond stadiums. Theyre Iconic, its not like theyre made up places. theyre real stadiums that used to be played in. The home team should have an advantage. thats part of being the home team.

[55]

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I'm not a very good hitter, but I can pitch with the best of them so I use Red Rocks Stadium as my home park for most games. It's the minor league stadium that's out in the desert with an absolutely gorgeous backdrop that looks even more amazing while the sun is setting. It's 450 feet to center and 340 down the lines with a 30 foot high wall. Total pitchers park that suits my playstyle/abilities.