Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

[Rocky]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

I wouldn't say atrocious, either. I would say it's ok with need for more tweaks and improvement.

Just played a game last night where the line was opening up running lanes and was picking up blitzes with no standing around.

If they are working on improving it, great.

I was referring more towards defensive line play and line interactions. It's waaaaay too simplistic currently.

[Dwaresacksqb]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

Well, then shucks, I must be blind out of one eye and can't see out of the other, therefore, all blocking must be atrocious.

"1) This is largely do to using old school code that uses a static radius metric in regard/relation to the "LOS" for each blocking position on the "OL" to give a perception of a formed "pocket/arc".

- that's why "C" are rarely driven backwards, as there radius from the LOS is very small.
- G's have a slightly larger radius than C, but not much.
- T's have the greatest radius (which is why they're the only position that has blocking interaction that extends more than 4 yrds behind the LOS)

The OL will not break away from this "pocket" forming rule.
OL, TE's and RB's will slide and/or break out of blocking interactions to fulfill.
- even the RB's have a set radius and will not be driven backwards further than for the sake of the "pocket".

2) Reacting needs to be reversed.
- currently the DL/OLB's react only after the OL has moved.
- there is a very visible delay by the DL when the ball is snapped so the rule can take affect.
- even "Jump Snap" is marginalized to adhere to the rule.
- DL should lead into blocking interactions, not the OL.

3) Timing needs to be tuned (relating this with the OP)
- QB drop back is way too fast in relation to the defensive rush.
- this throws everything off because both AI and Hum QB's are "waiting" as the other aspects of the play, play catch up.

Much of the frustration is just dealing with aspects of "old code" that limit/hinder the desires they want to achieve.

Hopefully we will see a huge jump/change in M17!!!"

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You even liked the post roadman lol. But anyway, the line play this year was fine when it worked for the most part. Atrocious is a strong word I personally wouldn't use to describe it though.

[Junior Moe]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

Let's get it! Enough talk and speculation, let's see what they have in store. I like the swagger I have seen from dev comments on equipment. Hopefully whatever is fueling that permeates throughout the entire product; especially CFM.

[CaliDude916]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

It's gotta be Von Miller or Cam Newton.

[4thQtrStre5S]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

I just hope it is a defensive player, thus indicating a focus on defense; prefer gap play.

I could see "Los Angeles Rams," QB Jared Goff.. Welcome home Rams.

[SolidSquid]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

I'll look closer, but I'm telling you, with my current sliders, I'm getting an efficient blocking game.

I'm just saying overall, it's not atrocious, if it was, I throw the game out after a few months instead of still playing on May 9th.

Agreed. I'm not saying it's always bad but there are time when things happen and you just say "that's madden"

[rkocjay]

Hopefully the cover boy is based on what was focused on this year offense or defense

[CWood2]

Unless triangle throws a duck ball vs the standard lob or Papa John's is sponsoring connected careers, Peyton will not be on the cover. I would hope ...

[Hooe]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

While we're speculating cover athletes, I suppose I'll throw in my uninformed guess: Panthers MLB Luke Kuechly.

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

I'm still playing Madden 16 to this day. I'm usually done with them before the Super Bowl. Last year was a huge step in the right direction. I have faith that this team will keep it moving on the right path.

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

Clint seems pretty excited about it, I don't remember him ever being this excited about 16.



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[NateDogPack12]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

To me, there are some things Madden 17 needs to get right. We've been without them for far too long in that all of these features have either been present in Maddens of yesterday or present in sports games of our own generation.

(1) - The ability to adjust formation subs prior to the game - particularly in CFM. Perhaps even custom packages to incorporate three halfbacks or to move pass rushers into position on third down.

(2) - Off-ball injuries and injuries to offensive / defensive linemen.

(3) - Coverage assignments on defense.

(4) - Custom / modifiable draft classes.

(5) - Streamlined & Accessible 32-team control in CFM.

(6) - Open, meaningful, realistic special teams play that makes the third phase matter and not an arcade-like waste of time.

Quite honestly, I'd accept the existing gameplay with those features, but nonetheless I'm excited to see what EA has done with the gameplay.

[khaliib]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

Well since most cover guys usually represented the aspect of the gameplay/feature to be focused, maybe it's "John Madden", signifying going back to the basics of X's & O's.

Well at least that's what I would do.

Just curious what is the "focused" theme to be marketed, more so than the individual that graces the cover.

[DeuceDouglas]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

I'll look closer, but I'm telling you, with my current sliders, I'm getting an efficient blocking game.

I'm just saying overall, it's not atrocious, if it was, I throw the game out after a few months instead of still playing on May 9th.

I'd agree it's not atrocious and there are certain plays where things look really good. It really suffers in the short yardage situations, and part of that is the RB contextual stuff, but when things get congested is where it gets really bad IMO. If they added a bunch of animations like they did for WR/DB with lineman on both sides falling down, cut blocks and more steering/pushing/hand fighting with tackles while engaged vs. win/loss outcomes I think that could be a really big upgrade but it's also a hard thing to market to the casual player and reminds me of the year they tried to get us to be fullbacks.

[Lilgoosy]

i honestly don't get why people are so interested in the cover, i thought a lot of players were downloading the game so the cover becomes useless