Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

[Dwaresacksqb]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

When they announced this news it was also reported that you'll get to play Madden 17 first on xbox one. For anyone who cares.

[jmurphy31]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

When they announced this news it was also reported that you'll get to play Madden 17 first on xbox one. For anyone who cares.

Its been the same for the past few years with EA access.

[SageInfinite]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

The idea that Tiburon has "stepped off the gas" doesn't match the amount of resources they are putting back into the series. This effort is evident in the ascending quality of the game over the past several years, both critically in the mainstream (Metacritic scores, etc.), the perception of the game on the careful and detail-oriented critical eye that is this website, and also with the amount of effort they continue to put into Madden 16 post-launch.

He said since they acquired the license. You even admitted yourself those games were not great efforts at all. The end of last gen and this generation has been EA/Tiburon finding it's footing and it's identity, and they're just now getting the game to where it's hitting it's stride. They had nowhere to go but up.

I know you love to throw that cape on for Tiburon for whatever reason, but it's not always necessary.

[Dwaresacksqb]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

Will operation sports be doing a rewind trailer video talking about everything they see? If not, I think it would be a great idea. I like what ign does with their rewind trailers. It sometimes helps you notice things that might have gone unnoticed at first. It's fun seeing something for a split second that could spark speculation and intrigue.

[redsox4evur]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

You're right, this in particular is not a white lie, this is now flat-out false.

Tiburon has released no fewer than nine title updates for Madden NFL 16 - unprecedented in the AAA sports gaming space. Two of these updates have added new ways to play the game in Draft Champions Play A Friend and MUT Salary Cap Ranked, and one added much-clamored for options for hardcore players in XP sliders for Connected Franchise. This is also unprecedented as no other major sports game is adding entire game modes post-launch. Heck, not many other video games period are doing this. And actually, Madden Ultimate Team was introduced the same way - a free post-release patch - in Madden NFL 10, so really Tiburon's only precedent is their own history with the Madden NFL series which people are accusing them of putting low effort into.

Anecdotally we also know that Tiburon has doubled the size of their dev team over the past several years, and when NCAA Football was put on the shelf many of those assigned to that series were brought into the Madden fold rather than let go outright.

The idea that Tiburon has "stepped off the gas" doesn't match the amount of resources they are putting back into the series. This effort is evident in the ascending quality of the game over the past several years, both critically in the mainstream (Metacritic scores, etc.), the perception of the game on the careful and detail-oriented critical eye that is this website, and also with the amount of effort they continue to put into Madden 16 post-launch.

If you want to look at a sports game series that's actually complacent, that's actually low-effort, look at the WWE 2K series, whose yearly efforts compared to what Madden and literally every other major sports game has accomplished over the past several years (besides maybe the RBI Baseball re-make) have been pretty laughable, especially with respect to post-release support where Madden is currently running laps around most of the competition.

Does everything they do for Madden align with what OS wants? Obviously that's not the case. They have many interest groups to cater to. Do they always succeed with what they set out to do? They have a better track record now than in the past, but also obviously there are things to improve. But let's be real here when evaluating the effort level, especially the current effort level.

I couldn't agree more...also not to do more comparing but at least with Madden I know who I can reach out to request changes and actually interact with the Devs. If I wanted to that for WWE, I would have no idea who to reach out to. And I have NEVER seen a Dev for the game on here.

[Hooe]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

He said since they acquired the license. You even admitted yourself those games were not great efforts at all. The end of last gen and this generation has been EA/Tiburon finding it's footing and it's identity, and they're just now getting the game to where it's hitting it's stride. They had nowhere to go but up.

I freely admit right now that I didn't enjoy at all any Madden game on the 360 until Madden 09. I didn't even buy a Gen-3 Madden game until 08, and I thought it was quite bad.

Of what relevance today, however, is how Tiburon handled things eight years ago? Not only Tiburon but the entire video game industry has changed dramatically since then. Does the admittedly poor transition from the last console generation - not even the current one - magically negate everything that Tiburon has done in the past 12, 24, and 36 months? Personally I don't think so and I also find such a suggestion ridiculous.

I know you love to throw that cape on for Tiburon for whatever reason, but it's not always necessary.

And the ad-hominem attacks from you are neither necessary or desired on this forum so you'd be wise to change your line of posting, stat.

[SageInfinite]

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I freely admit right now that I didn't enjoy at all any Madden game on the 360 until Madden 09. I didn't even buy a Gen-3 Madden game until 08, and I thought it was quite bad.

Of what relevance today, however, is how Tiburon handled things eight years ago? Not only Tiburon but the entire video game industry has changed dramatically since then. Does the admittedly poor transition from the last console generation - not even the current one - magically negate everything that Tiburon has done in the past 12, 24, and 36 months? Personally I don't think so and I also find such a suggestion ridiculous.



And the ad-hominem attacks from you are neither necessary or desired on this forum so you'd be wise to change your line of posting, stat.

Tiburon's change is debatable, and one I won't continue here for obvious reasons. Also you can "threaten" me all you want, I'm just speaking the truth.

Can't wait for that trailer to drop though. I'm actually very interested to find out what they've been working on for on the field.

[roadman]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

More pitter-patter on Twitter:

Ryan Grande @GrandeRyan 47m47 minutes ago
@RexDEAFootball @business madden 16 was good. But it's the last @EAMaddenNFL I buy without REAL effort put into improving CFM



Rex Dickson
@RexDEAFootball
@GrandeRyan @business @EAMaddenNFL We got you covered bro.

[Dwaresacksqb]

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More pitter-patter on Twitter:

Ryan Grande @GrandeRyan 47m47 minutes ago
@RexDEAFootball @business madden 16 was good. But it's the last @EAMaddenNFL I buy without REAL effort put into improving CFM



Rex Dickson
@RexDEAFootball
@GrandeRyan @business @EAMaddenNFL We got you covered bro.

I liked how last year, when Rex and the crew were playing Madden 16 live on twitter on release day, Rex spotted an animation with the DB/WR that made no sense and acknowledged live, they needed to look into that to correct the issue. I am pretty sure they removed the animation completely. He seems like a pretty honest, stand-up guy.

The hype for this trailer is crazy!

[SageInfinite]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

More pitter-patter on Twitter:

Ryan Grande @GrandeRyan 47m47 minutes ago
@RexDEAFootball @business madden 16 was good. But it's the last @EAMaddenNFL I buy without REAL effort put into improving CFM



Rex Dickson
@RexDEAFootball
@GrandeRyan @business @EAMaddenNFL We got you covered bro.

Again everyone has to come in with tempered expectations. Alot of things have sounded great or logical in pre-release, but when they come to functioning in game in real world situations, have not lived up to the claims or the functionality.

I found ways to enjoy Madden 16, so I'm tip toeing in with optimism.

[Junior Moe]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

More pitter-patter on Twitter:

Ryan Grande @GrandeRyan 47m47 minutes ago
@RexDEAFootball @business madden 16 was good. But it's the last @EAMaddenNFL I buy without REAL effort put into improving CFM



Rex Dickson
@RexDEAFootball
@GrandeRyan @business @EAMaddenNFL We got you covered bro.

The fact that he acknowledged and answered that, knowing how savage the Internet is, only furthers my suspicion that they have something up their sleeve with regard to franchise/CFM.

[DeuceDouglas]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

More pitter-patter on Twitter:

Ryan Grande @GrandeRyan 47m47 minutes ago
@RexDEAFootball @business madden 16 was good. But it's the last @EAMaddenNFL I buy without REAL effort put into improving CFM

Rex Dickson
@RexDEAFootball
@GrandeRyan @business @EAMaddenNFL We got you covered bro.

I'm in the same boat as him. They need to come up big this year in CFM. I go back and read their deep dive about CFM's new features last year and it is just laughable. And when I mean come up big I don't mean something like new daily goals where our players get 100 XP for eating an orange before practice. I don't want to be overly negative because I like the gameplay and I'm willing to see what happens first and give them a chance but if deep dive time comes around and I'm reading about new goal mechanics, score tickers, and draft presentation I just might lose my mind.

[SolidSquid]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

Again everyone has to come in with tempered expectations. Alot of things have sounded great or logical in pre-release, but when they come to functioning in game in real world situations, have not lived up to the claims or the functionality.

I found ways to enjoy Madden 16, so I'm tip toeing in with optimism.

This. I'm glad Rex and other devs are active on Twitter but you have to remember is another form of marketing so take it with a grain of salt. Would you expect a sizzle/release trailer to say something like "minimal improvements from last years release" or "no new content but newer fresher menus"? I'm not saying the game will have no improvements but what is a dev supposed to say when asked a question on Twitter like the one posted "you'll be bored don't buy this one"

Again I'm not bashing the game it just seems like there are people in here who argue that everything a dev says on Twitter is gospel, these things must be taken with a grain of salt.

[roadman]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

Again everyone has to come in with tempered expectations. Alot of things have sounded great or logical in pre-release, but when they come to functioning in game in real world situations, have not lived up to the claims or the functionality.

I found ways to enjoy Madden 16, so I'm tip toeing in with optimism.

Just pointing out that a person can add the math starting with Rex's interview after 16 came out, the cover of Madden yesterday with the caption "Franchise Mode started in 1999 and the affirmations concerning customers concerns or reservations.

That's half of it, the other half, like you mention, is how well it's implemented in late August.

Hope for the best.

SS- Not saying it's gospel, but confirming a customers request is(plus other evidence), shall we say, fairly positive from one of the lead Developers that CFM will be improved. I really don't think that is a stretch, wouldn't you agree?

[Dwaresacksqb]

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This. I'm glad Rex and other devs are active on Twitter but you have to remember is another form of marketing so take it with a grain of salt. Would you expect a sizzle/release trailer to say something like "minimal improvements from last years release" or "no new content but newer fresher menus"? I'm not saying the game will have no improvements but what is a dev supposed to say when asked a question on Twitter like the one posted "you'll be bored don't buy this one"

Again I'm not bashing the game it just seems like there are people in here who argue that everything a dev says on Twitter is gospel, these things must be taken with a grain of salt.

I just don't think he has to say anything at all. The fact that he has said multiple times now, CFM is an area of focus for them this year, has me believing CFM got some much needed attention. Will I like what they come up with? I don't know, but I do know, it's good news, not bad.