PES 2017: Everything We'd Like to See Added

[strawberryshortcake]

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Two things based on the PES16 demos:

(1) Less accurate passes; more passing errors for both the user and cpu; PES's passing is far too accurate. The ability to ping pong pass needs to be scraped. In order to make the passing feel more realistic, I decided to pass solely using the "through pass" button and that made a world of a difference. It felt much more lively. Unfortunately, there are no sliders or options to force the CPU to also use the "pass through mechanic" for all passing plays.

(2) Remove the button that you'd hold down to chase after the player with control of the ball. Stealing the ball with this tactic seems much too easy.

I was so certain upon playing both demos that I was going to buy PES16, but after having seen Matt10's twitch stream, he made me realize the flaw to PES's passing mechanics. I decided to forgo both titles unfortunately. My first and only soccer game was PES14. Never ever bought a FIFA title before, but the FIFA16 demo's passing mechanics and the stealing mechanics seems far superior to PES16's.

Yeah, never said FIFA was superior, but it is at least playable - let's leave it at that.

The issue with PES 16 is the fact it's missing everything that made PES 6 great, and PES 13 the proper send off to the series. The new Fox engine handicapped the game to work within a very specific box, and never got out of that box. This was evidenced by the canned low shots on goal that the GK could never save, the defensive line retreating with the forward (versus holding their line), and every single shot looking like a blast of perfect contact.

Those are just some of the issues, tactics are effective, but so effective that it made the players robotic, and mindless. Also, the collision recognition system needs priority as the plays that look like fouls, need to be called - because it does look good.

The good thing is, those are the only true issues with gameplay. FIFA have a lot more issues from formation implementation, proper width, scale of pitch size, animations, misleading statistics - aka very basic football/soccer fundamentals. However, sliders give it an out in some areas - but they are definitely not saviors of the game, just make it playable.

You probably don't remember our very brief conversation (twitch stream) way back when the demo for both came out. I was curious about this whole "passing accuracy, passing error," or whatever the terminology that you specified was clearly superior in Fifa. You twitch streamed an old video of FIFA showcasing what you meant. Shouldn't the passing in PES17 be overhauled as well -- it is far to "accurate" in PES16.

[KG]

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how can not wanting Konami and PES to introduce clubs online be on this list of things to see added ?

this is beyond me.. but this is the best modes in online sports video gaming that NHL EASHL started.. and then FIFA picked up but have since not upgraded the last few years..

and in PES.. one of the best things that made PES 5, or 6 or the old PES games on PS2 so famous is because it was the best multiplayer sports game offline by far back then and so addicting.

if Konami introduced this mode online to where they had clubs and the servers actually worked in PES.. this would be incredible for rejuvenating this series.

ONLINE PLAY in GENERAL should be KONAMI's top priority... until they make it their top priority they have no chance in to even remotely compete with FIFA.. ONLINE PLAY SHOULD BE #1 BEFORE EVERYTHING ELSE FOR KONAMI!

if they were able to actually able to have a good online... many people will not even buy FIFA just because of that... regardless of not having licenses or not.

Note – this isn’t an “end-all-be-all” list but rather a high-level rundown of some of common issues plaguing PES 2016 and where we’d like to see the game go in future iterations.

If I could write a list of EVERYTHING I'd like to see added it would be a full-on thesis, lol.

[Chris200000]

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With creation, I would like if they add a "League Maker." Instead of replacing a league, we should be able to pick a country. So we could choose the US or Germany when making leagues.

Also, bring back stadium editor. I am getting tired of playing at the same stadiums during career. I know getting licenses is impossible, so let us create something that resembles White Hart Lane or the Etihad.

Get rid of regens that look and same names as retired players. It looks dumb and loses playable of career for me.

Agree 100%

[C.J.S.]

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much better animations
much better lighting
no more running on rails
much better replays
smarter goalies

[stevostl]

Re: PES 2017: Everything We'd Like to See Added

Note – this isn’t an “end-all-be-all” list but rather a high-level rundown of some of common issues plaguing PES 2016 and where we’d like to see the game go in future iterations.

If I could write a list of EVERYTHING I'd like to see added it would be a full-on thesis, lol.

it was a good write up. Sorry I am just always let down by konami in terms of that the most with their games and was ranting a little there... I usually buy both footie games every year and I'm disappointed in something with both games every year too much. In konami it's the overall online and the fouls system. I think PES is actually closer to the better gameplay on the pitch though if they fix the big glaring issues.

I also see that some people have or want konami to make sliders for their new game. I disagree with that. I mean don't get me wrong it does good to have some options like I wish if there was one slider they had besides game speed and difficulty and pass support and shooting options... It's for the refs . I think they should have a slider for reffs on how strict they are. This would be a great addition to the PES series. I don't however think they need all the other sliders that FIFA has. That would do more harm than good.. PES doesn't need all that imo BUT if they added it I wouldn't complain... just don't think it's necessary like some do or that it should be a must need.

the greatest football games of all time imo are those without sliders.. and still are the best to me.

with that said. if they create sliders and it makes the game great for everyone.. then I'm sure I will like it as well.

[PeruvianPlaya954]

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What do I want to see? ****ing fouls. Oh, and yellow cards. And red cards. And free kicks. And penalty kicks.

For ****'s sake.