Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

[Mbunn1993]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

We just got through 63 pages of endless Steph debates on a thread. Now this same exact **** is back and this one will be plaguing the top of the 2K page for another month or two. Ugh. Can we please get back to discussing 2K related things?

[Mauer4MVP]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

That's literally your only argument is true shooting %. True shooting % doesn't equal GOAT offensive player.

Well it's job is literally to show efficiency. Of course you have to take context into account. How many shot attempts, usage rate, role of the player, how many points they acorw, assist rate etc. All that equals him being the greatest offensive weapon ever. Again not career wise, but as of right now.

And if you want to say Jordan that's fine. Ita you laughing at the thought of Curry in the discussion which is troubling.

[cima]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

Choose any Jordan season

Points per 100: approx 43-44

Steph: 42.5

Now here's where all the separation is

Jordan TS% - approx .600
Steph TS% - .670

The gap between Jordan and Steph in terms of efficiency is around the same as Jordan to DeMar DeRozan. It's a MAMMOTH difference. Like, not even close. And when you have similar volume as they do...well sorry but Stephs offensive peak is higher.

Again with this TS% garbage. You guys crack me up. Jordan crushes Curry in PER, ORTG, Points per 100 poss, Win Shares, Offensive Win Shares, VORP, etc etc. They played the game very differently.

[Mauer4MVP]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

Post above mine is right. I'm done.

[cima]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

We just got through 63 pages of endless Steph debates on a thread. Now this same exact **** is back and this one will be plaguing the top of the 2K page for another month or two. Ugh. Can we please get back to discussing 2K related things?

Blame the OS writer for writing an article and creating the thread about it then. What did you expect when that ridiculous of a question is proposed?

[raidertiger]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

Again with this TS% garbage. You guys crack me up. Jordan crushes Curry in PER, ORTG, Points per 100 poss, Win Shares, Offensive Win Shares, VORP, etc etc. They played the game very differently.

Crushing someone in scoring (by 1point per 100 possessions lol) when doing it significantly more inefficiently is not an accomplishment. And of course Jordan would crush Curry in win shares, when he played around 5mpg extra.

The bias here is so laughable. This is what you consider crushing, and this is taking into account MJs best season in all categories, not what he got in a single year. If you choose one, this wouldn't even be as close:

PTS/100 - 46.4 to 42.5 (decent gap)
WS/48 - .321 to .318 (OMG CURRY CRUSHED!)
PER - 31.7 to 31.5 (CRUSHED)
VORP - 12.0 to 9.8 (only legit part tbh)

But none of this is apparently relevant

TS% - .669 to .614 (AKA Curry is ahead by Jordan with the same margin as Jordan is to DeMar DeRozan) This is a crush BTW.
OBPM - 12.4 to 9.8 (Again, a crushing in favour of Curry)

So Jordan has a volume edge over Curry, but Curry blows him away in efficiency and is barely behind on some of these stats that you're citing (.2 gap in PER and .003 gap in WS/48...seriously?) Not to mention that this is Jordans BEST marks, not his single season totals.

They play the game differently. But to say because Jordan is more varied (debatable, considering Curry lead PGs in finishing at the rim), is akin to saying Melo was better than Durant. Durant may have less moves, but when he's so much more efficient and posts similar point totals who cares?

So yes, when you compare Jordans career marks in all categories, it's debatable. Take one of his seasons, and yeah Curry is ahead.

[Mbunn1993]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating? You

Blame the OS writer for writing an article and creating the thread about it then. What did you expect when that ridiculous of a question is proposed?

Uhm, for people to leave their opinions on what the topic actually is.. Instead we got another Curry vs Jordan thread. Ridiculous question or not, these responses have nothing to do with it.

And it's like everyone wants to throw out these numbers and then expect an /endthread. Did we forget what an opinion is? Joe Blow thinks Curry is the best offensive player ever. Joe Shmoe thinks it's Jordan. So what? Y'all need move the **** on and let the other person have their opinion. No one is right. That's the entire point of an opinion.

[Mauer4MVP]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating? You

Uhm, for people to leave their opinions on what the topic actually is.. Instead we got another Curry vs Jordan thread. Ridiculous question or not, these responses have nothing to do with it.

And it's like everyone wants to throw out these numbers and then expect an /endthread. Did we forget what an opinion is? Joe Blow thinks Curry is the best offensive player ever. Joe Shmoe thinks it's Jordan. So what? Y'all need move the **** on and let the other person have their opinion. No one is right. That's the entire point of an opinion.

It's actually Joe Blowe. Nice to meet you.

[MoneyOvaHuds]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

Curry plays like he does in real life now [emoji24][emoji24][emoji24]

https://youtu.be/hu8trNT3KNo

[Vni]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

godwin law of basketball forums: if an online discussion goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Michael Jordan.

[daveberg]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

No. Steph doesn't warrant a 99.

2 great seasons shouldn't elevate him to that kind of status. If he played like this from day 1, sure. But he's just emerged recently and the league has gone all weak at the knees for him.

All the talk and comparisons to MJ....I wonder what Mike's stats would look like playing the game today at the same age as Steph.........

Anyhow, If Curry goes 2 or 3 more years the way he is now? Sure, 99. But not after two seasons of stand out play.

Hell, everyone was gushing over Linsanity after a few months of great play a few seasons ago, should 2k have given him a 99 for his trouble?

Let's see if these guys have any longevity, then give them their props.

[tru11]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

so many kids just starting watching basketball.

they think its only about scoring points.

lets all just forgot about defense , rebounding and assists for instance....

The best should be able to do more then shoot the ball TBH......

[DocHolliday]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

so many kids just starting watching basketball.



they think its only about scoring points.



lets all just forgot about defense , rebounding and assists for instance....



The best should be able to do more then shoot the ball TBH......

Annnnnd back to square one of "All he does is shoot".

Not going to get into the comparison but if you think all Steph does is shoot your not actually watching the games, or you don't understand basketball nuances.

[Hustle Westbrook]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

so many kids just starting watching basketball.

they think its only about scoring points.

lets all just forgot about defense , rebounding and assists for instance....

The best should be able to do more then shoot the ball TBH......

Stephen Curry does more than just shoot the ball though.

You talk as if Stephen Curry is Steve Novak lmao.

[SpeedyClaxton]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

I am just annoyed when people think Curry is a good defender, remember back then A.I. led the league in steals and yet nobody called him even 'good' defender, because unlike Curry he had a team with bunch of scrubs and best players not named Iverson were Aaron McKie and washed up old Mutombo lol.