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  • jpdavis82
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    • Sep 2005
    • 8794

    #166
    Re: Madden NFL 17 Features Focus on Franchise Mode & More - Bundle Info & 2 Screensho

    Originally posted by SageInfinite
    This is the Tiburon signature, they can't get rid of that, lol. Seriously though, there's something holding them back in the animation department. I don't see them solving this even this generation. Especially when they don't realize how bad some of the animations look.


    Yes they do, Rex said he's after "poetry in motion" he's well aware of the animation quality deficiencies

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    • jpdavis82
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      • Sep 2005
      • 8794

      #167
      Re: Madden NFL 17 Features Focus on Franchise Mode & More - Bundle Info & 2 Screensho

      Originally posted by jwilphl
      Franchise needs a ton of work, but even if it is lip service, good to see they understand how bad it is. It will take more than one development cycle to get it where it needs to be, however. I'd like to see a commitment to the mode, though, rather than a one-time "yay improvements" then they go back to focusing on ultimate team the next year.


      Just a thought, but what if they used 16 cycle investing in franchise and 17 implementing it?

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      • Mike Lowe
        All Star
        • Dec 2006
        • 5297

        #168
        Re: Madden NFL 17 Features Focus on Franchise Mode & More - Bundle Info & 2 Screensho

        Fix injuries away from the ball, and a more realistic amount of injuries in this "new franchise mode" or I won't even be touching this.

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        • reverend_heat
          MVP
          • Aug 2002
          • 1775

          #169
          Re: Madden NFL 17 Features Focus on Franchise Mode & More - Bundle Info & 2 Screensho

          Originally posted by 4thQtrStre5S
          Car tires are a major part of how a car stays on the road, as well as providing better performance; whether Antonio Brown has on the proper equipment or not, doesn't dictate if he catches a pass or not...

          From the screen shot I would say the biggest issue would be the same distorted jerseys that IMO is the most glaring art issue in the game...But this is in fact mostly about opinion..

          EDIT: I just Googled Antonio Brown and I saw him with different shoes and different color arm bands, etc..Now he does consistently wear a black mouth guard, and with that I can support the immediate application of mouth guards as a logically more consistent application of art resources, as opposed to trying to match what each of the 2500+ players wear from game to game, that seems like a waste of money and time. How many players on on a Basketball team?
          Let me try to boil my point down for you, I want the madden devs to match the basketball game devs passion for player likeness, end of story

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          • wallofhate
            Pro
            • Nov 2006
            • 654

            #170
            I'm keeping my hopes up of this being the year they rework the running animations to mimic real life and throwing animations. I'm not a big franchise guy but I know that's gonna please a huge group of madden players. I have a lot of optimism about this game idk of its smart to but I do.

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            • Godgers12
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              • Dec 2012
              • 2265

              #171
              Re: Madden NFL 17 Features Focus on Franchise Mode & More - Bundle Info & 2 Screensho

              I don't like to be told what to do, so the Ball carrier cues will get annoying fast. I could tolerate it if they didn't block your vision. But if it's a big block over the runners head then
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              • Dwaresacksqb
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                • Jun 2009
                • 696

                #172
                Re: Madden NFL 17 Features Focus on Franchise Mode & More - Bundle Info & 2 Screensho

                Originally posted by SportsGamer94
                Take signature animations out of it, the general player movement is still very bad in Madden. Check out the bad player movement in this Moody video. I think having true step for all players on the field would help improve some of these issues.

                <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/LiuW0atQ2Ek" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>
                I've been following Moody for a long time now. I agree and think most everyone here does as well. The animations and A.I. need work. I just wanted to touch on signature moves. I don't want every juke or spin or cut to be the same. I don't want one runner who likes to bounce runs playing like a runner who sticks their nose up the gut for dirty yards. I'd like to see players differentiate more from eachother. It's justa harder process for a game of football to get that than a game like NBA. However, I think its about time to start implementing it so Madden could start to grow even more into the game we see on sundays. Basic animations and A.I. will always need to be addressed as technology grows, so should Madden. Not saying what we have is okay either.
                BoOm!

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                • michapop9
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 773

                  #173
                  Re: Madden NFL 17 Features Focus on Franchise Mode &amp; More - Bundle Info &amp; 2 Screensho

                  Originally posted by Godgers12
                  I don't like to be told what to do, so the Ball carrier cues will get annoying fast. I could tolerate it if they didn't block your vision. But if it's a big block over the runners head then
                  Really there's no reason to think that they won't give you the option to turn it off, I don't understand people's issue with this, past practice has showed that they give you these options with notifications on screen and let you turn them off if you like

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                  • SolidSquid
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                    • Aug 2014
                    • 3159

                    #174
                    Re: Madden NFL 17 Features Focus on Franchise Mode &amp; More - Bundle Info &amp; 2 Screensho

                    Originally posted by Godgers12
                    I don't like to be told what to do, so the Ball carrier cues will get annoying fast. I could tolerate it if they didn't block your vision. But if it's a big block over the runners head then
                    After like 3 games in 16 I shut all the on field stuff off, assuming you'll be able to do the same with these.

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                    • SageInfinite
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 11896

                      #175
                      Re: Madden NFL 17 Features Focus on Franchise Mode &amp; More - Bundle Info &amp; 2 Screensho

                      Originally posted by jpdavis82
                      Yes they do, Rex said he's after "poetry in motion" he's well aware of the animation quality deficiencies
                      I mean that's great, and I've heard him mention it before, but this has been a problem since we entered the 360 generation, I'd just have to see it to believe it. They've allowed awkward, goofy stuff to be implemented so I'd have to see it.
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                      • Gridiron
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                        • Jun 2008
                        • 418

                        #176
                        Re: Madden NFL 17 Features Focus on Franchise Mode &amp; More - Bundle Info &amp; 2 Screensho

                        Originally posted by SageInfinite

                        Hope the new ball carrier cues come with new ball carrier juke moves and animations. The defensive animations need the most work, so I hope those were finally addressed.
                        The whole thing needs an overhaul. The Ballcarrier animations are downright awful. I'm not saying 15's were perfect, but they were better for sure. They should've left them the way they were. Here is what we have now:

                        <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/uZp2lRERcOI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                        <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/HVQOALso1aE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                        ^^^Who runs like this??? You got one dude looking like he's trying to salute his General, and the other dude running like he's Dirk The Daring from Dragon's Lair. Who is allowing this, and why?

                        BTW, I get all of my vids from that channel. No commentary, no filler from dude, just straight vids that show 100% proof, that's why I like it. If a case needed to be made for why changes HAVE to happen in the animation department alone, that channel is case closed evidence.

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                        • Gridiron
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 418

                          #177
                          Re: Madden NFL 17 Features Focus on Franchise Mode &amp; More - Bundle Info &amp; 2 Screensho

                          Originally posted by SageInfinite
                          They've allowed awkward, goofy stuff to be implemented....
                          For 2+ generations.

                          Obviously, personnel changes needed to be made in the animation department ages ago if it's been the same guys this whole time. So many of these animations look like whoever did them just didn't care at all. No way could a person with a triple-digit IQ look at that and go "yeah, that looks great! Put that in!" unless they just weren't concerned with the quality.

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                          • roadman
                            *ll St*r
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 26339

                            #178
                            Re: Madden NFL 17 Features Focus on Franchise Mode &amp; More - Bundle Info &amp; 2 Screensho

                            Originally posted by SageInfinite
                            I mean that's great, and I've heard him mention it before, but this has been a problem since we entered the 360 generation, I'd just have to see it to believe it. They've allowed awkward, goofy stuff to be implemented so I'd have to see it.
                            He's aware, a rece2nt exchange between Ryan and Rex.

                            Ryan Moody ‏@ShutdownSafety 17h17 hours ago
                            Is Madden NFL Footballs Biggest Problem Simply Selecting Proper Animations For Situations

                            Rex Dickson ‏@RexDEAFootball 15h15 hours ago
                            @ShutdownSafety OK, that one was awful. Appreciate the work you put in Ryan. Your videos don't piss me off, they motivate me.

                            Ryan Moody ‏@ShutdownSafety 15h15 hours ago
                            @RexDEAFootball And watching them at 1am means you're dedicated. Wait till tomorrow....its even worse.


                            Rex Dickson
                            ‏@RexDEAFootball
                            @ShutdownSafety Watching them at 1 am means I just got home from work. But yeah, I think we share that dedication trait.


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                            Reply to @RexDEAFootball @ShutdownSafety

                            Ryan Moody ‏@ShutdownSafety 14h14 hours ago
                            @RexDEAFootball One day, hopefully my channel can be filled with plays like this; https://youtu.be/6ZIl-uxkyMg Its a goal we share!


                            Ryan Moody ‏@ShutdownSafety 14h14 hours ago
                            @RexDEAFootball I am filming them at 1am, hopefully you have seen some of the positive ones this month had aswell.


                            Ryan Moody ‏@ShutdownSafety 14h14 hours ago
                            @RexDEAFootball I am filming them at 1am, id say rest assured but we clearly aren't resting. PS - Servers are down....go back to fix them.

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                            • jpdavis82
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                              • Sep 2005
                              • 8794

                              #179
                              Re: Madden NFL 17 Features Focus on Franchise Mode &amp; More - Bundle Info &amp; 2 Screensho

                              Originally posted by Gridiron
                              For 2+ generations.



                              Obviously, personnel changes needed to be made in the animation department ages ago if it's been the same guys this whole time. So many of these animations look like whoever did them just didn't care at all. No way could a person with a triple-digit IQ look at that and go "yeah, that looks great! Put that in!" unless they just weren't concerned with the quality.


                              True, but the new WR/db animations and QB play action animations were legit.

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                              • Gridiron
                                Banned
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 418

                                #180
                                Re: Madden NFL 17 Features Focus on Franchise Mode &amp; More - Bundle Info &amp; 2 Screensho

                                Originally posted by jpdavis82
                                True, but the new WR/db animations and QB play action animations were legit.
                                The Playaction and drop back upgrades were nice. the WR/DB ones? Well, if you mean just the animations themselves, yeah, but the warping-sliding-twisting-turning stuff so they could play out really hurt it bad. If that wasn't there, the WR/DB stuff would've been perfect.

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