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  • SageInfinite
    Stop The GOAT Talk
    • Jul 2002
    • 11896

    #181
    Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

    Originally posted by Jay D
    I think most people are just confused by the new rules in the NFL. You can't challenge turnovers or scoring plays anymore. Those are reviewed automatically.

    Seriously, I have not had issues with the game's replays. On the very rare occasion that I am not given an option, I just assume my booth guy called down and told me not to challenge. Because ion the game won't give you an option, then you were going to lose anyway.
    I'm not confused, lol. It's broken man. Maybe you haven't noticed, but I've had drives and big plays ruined because of this broken system. Receivers have clearly gotten one foot in and they've still called it a catch. I've wanted to challenge whether there was an incomplete pass or a fumble on the play, nope. They've challenged the spot of the ball when I've wanted them to challenge something else. Also I've called for them to challenge the spot of the ball, have won the challenge, and still had it be 4th down,lol. I'm all for trying to add human error in a game, or sticking with the call on the field, but these things have consistently happened.

    It's all good man some people enjoy what they enjoy and don't notice the problems, but it's been messed up for a long time.
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    • TheShizNo1
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      • Mar 2007
      • 26341

      #182
      Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

      Originally posted by Jay D
      I think most people are just confused by the new rules in the NFL. You can't challenge turnovers or scoring plays anymore. Those are reviewed automatically.

      Seriously, I have not had issues with the game's replays. On the very rare occasion that I am not given an option, I just assume my booth guy called down and told me not to challenge. Because ion the game won't give you an option, then you were going to lose anyway.
      Nah, man. I've had instances in which my WRs feet are clearly in bounds, it's called incomplete, and I'm unable to challenge. Or I can, and it's still in complete.

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      • Hooe
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2002
        • 21555

        #183
        Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

        Yeah the challenge mechanics are quite easily far behind anything else in the game. Not sure they've significantly changed since they were first introduced on the... PS2?

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        • Downtown Bob
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          • Dec 2015
          • 304

          #184
          Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

          Sounds promising. I like the run game improvements. I shouldn't have to watch Darren Sproles get hit in the backfield with both Luke Kuechly and Star Lotulelei just to get away 2 seconds later and pick up 10 yards.

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          • JayhawkerStL
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            • Apr 2004
            • 3644

            #185
            Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

            Originally posted by TheShizNo1
            Nah, man. I've had instances in which my WRs feet are clearly in bounds, it's cancan't call for oneled incomplete, and I'm unable to challenge. Or I can, and it's still in complete.

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            Good thing that never happens in real life.

            Seriously, they should actually just dump replay, because I don't think gamers can handle it. Yes, I've seen blown replays.

            Oh, and you can't call replays in the late in halves either.

            It's not broken. Or I'm the luckiest guy in the world, and the people I've played online that complained tend to be the only ones that don't understand. Because, yeah, I've seen people complain.

            I saw a guy try to challenge a fumble this morning. He was pissed because he could challenge, yet earlier I won a review I didn't even call for.

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            • Lexicon
              Pro
              • Mar 2011
              • 759

              #186
              Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

              Originally posted by Jay D
              Good thing that never happens in real life.

              Seriously, they should actually just dump replay, because I don't think gamers can handle it. Yes, I've seen blown replays.

              Oh, and you can't call replays in the late in halves either.

              It's not broken. Or I'm the luckiest guy in the world, and the people I've played online that complained tend to be the only ones that don't understand. Because, yeah, I've seen people complain.

              I saw a guy try to challenge a fumble this morning. He was pissed because he could challenge, yet earlier I won a review I didn't even call for.
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              • howboutdat
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                • Nov 2012
                • 1908

                #187
                Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

                Originally posted by Lexicon
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                • DeuceDouglas
                  Madden Dev Team
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 4297

                  #188
                  Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

                  I think the game has trouble with a lot of the rules as well especially when it comes to catches. Obviously this is a tough one but this was from a game I played where this pretty clearly shouldn't have even been a catch but was ruled a catch and fumble, reviewed and stood as such.

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                  • SolidSquid
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                    • Aug 2014
                    • 3159

                    #189
                    Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense &amp; Special Teams

                    Originally posted by Jay D
                    Good thing that never happens in real life.

                    Seriously, they should actually just dump replay, because I don't think gamers can handle it. Yes, I've seen blown replays.

                    Oh, and you can't call replays in the late in halves either.

                    It's not broken. Or I'm the luckiest guy in the world, and the people I've played online that complained tend to be the only ones that don't understand. Because, yeah, I've seen people complain.

                    I saw a guy try to challenge a fumble this morning. He was pissed because he could challenge, yet earlier I won a review I didn't even call for.
                    It's broken man just accept it. Just yesterday Mike Evans got both feet down, it was ruled incomplete so I challenged. They review it and say the play on field is overturned, but it's still second and ten.

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                    • SageInfinite
                      Stop The GOAT Talk
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 11896

                      #190
                      Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense &amp; Special Teams

                      Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
                      I think the game has trouble with a lot of the rules as well especially when it comes to catches. Obviously this is a tough one but this was from a game I played where this pretty clearly shouldn't have even been a catch but was ruled a catch and fumble, reviewed and stood as such.

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                      Like I stated, every once in awhile on a close play, I'm not going to complain, it happens in real life, but some of the calls are just ridiculous.

                      Good post.
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                      • OhMrHanky
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                        • Aug 2012
                        • 1898

                        #191
                        Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense &amp;amp; Special Teams

                        Originally posted by CM Hooe
                        Yeah the challenge mechanics are quite easily far behind anything else in the game. Not sure they've significantly changed since they were first introduced on the... PS2?


                        I think they have improved over the last few years with 16 being the best, yet. Perfect? NO. Lol. But, I remember 13, 25, and 15 having problems constantly with challenge errors. But, for me, in 16, I would say I agree with about 80% of the calls/challenges that happen. I have even won a challenge or 2 that I called that reversed a TD. Today, I recovered a fumble from CPU. I looked at the replay, and said, 'damn. He hit the ground before he fumbled. This will get reversed.' I unpause the game, and sure enough, 'the previous play is being reviewed.' And, sure enough, it was reversed. But, I have def also seen the one foot in bounds called a catch. And, 2 feet in bounds called incomplete. So, again, for me, it's not perfect, but I can def tell improvements were made to the logic in 16, and I don't feel completely cheated when challenges occur (or, when they don't let me challenge - again, yes, this happens, but not enough in my games to overly concern me). You would think that based on the fact it is a vid game, they should be able to detect every little thing, but honestly, when 'mistakes' occur, for me, I can actually chalk it up to 'human error' for reality sake. How many replays have u seen challenged in real life where u said to yourself, 'get out of here, man!!!! What???!!!!' So, I can play it off that way. In some ways, that makes it more realistic. Lol

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                        • avwhitechic
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                          • Jun 2011
                          • 264

                          #192
                          Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense &amp; Special Teams

                          You always bring it.
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                          • OhMrHanky
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                            • Aug 2012
                            • 1898

                            #193
                            Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense &amp; Special Teams

                            Lol. Then, right after I wrote that post, I had a WR have a ball knocked out before fully making the catch called a fumble which was returned for TD! Lol. They reviewed and the play stands. Again, though, I can chalk up to 'human error' of the AI ref. Lol. I guess the CPU thought my WR 'made a football move' before the ball was knocked out. But, it looked like he never fully caught it to me.


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                            • avwhitechic
                              A DB'S SWAG
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 264

                              #194
                              Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense &amp; Special Teams

                              Originally posted by cthurt
                              If they brought back full player editing like Madden 12 had then everything else will be sprinkles on top for me. Just that simple.
                              This what people don't understand, Full player editing will never return to CMF because it would take away from potential MUT players...EA will not let that cashcow be interfered with
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                              • redsox4evur
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                                • Jul 2013
                                • 18169

                                #195
                                Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense &amp; Special Teams

                                Originally posted by avwhitechic
                                This what people don't understand, Full player editing will never return to CMF because it would take away from potential MUT players...EA will not let that cashcow be interfered with

                                Then why prior to releasing MUT salary cap WITHIN THE LAST 2 WEEKS was MUT not changed in 16? If they care that much about it they would have made some sort of change to it and get more people to play that mode.
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