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  • SageInfinite
    Stop The GOAT Talk
    • Jul 2002
    • 11896

    #331
    Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

    Originally posted by SolidSquid
    I'm all for new animations but until they actually address locomotion with real inertia/momentum and weight the game will never feel right. Too many times I see Eddie Lacy with 12 yards of steam, get contacted by a corner and immediately stop any forward momentum he has, no driving forward just hitting a brick wall.

    True Step needs to be implemented to all 22 guys on the field, it's great that the ball carrier has to decelerate and accelerate and can't zig zag but when the other 21 players don't adhere to the same rules things get wonky.

    My biggest peeve is the warping/shifting on catch animations, I'd rather the catch animation play out and the wr not even get a hand on the ball than having him warp to be able to make a play.
    Yeah I should've been more specific with my post, because all of the things you mentioned I have an issue with. The game just animates and interacts pretty poorly at this time, especially for an Xbox One/PS4 game.

    True step on defense is desperately needed. So tired of the poor defensive movement/footwork. The speed burst catches can be annoying as well.

    Tiburon has to figure out a way to rid the game of these issues before I can take their "sim" claims serious....
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    • jpdavis82
      All Star
      • Sep 2005
      • 8794

      #332
      Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

      Latest from Rex but I thought the swat was still in


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      • OhMrHanky
        MVP
        • Aug 2012
        • 1898

        #333
        Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

        Originally posted by SageInfinite
        I definitely think something was done with movement animations, but in the two clips shown at the end, the running looked pretty similar to Madden 16.

        Honestly I hope they are building something on the side to release one of these years, but the animations and the quality of them is the biggest thing holding this game back. One reason why the game doesn't feel fresh to alot of people. Alot of the same animations from last gen still trigger often.

        I did love the new handoff/playaction animations added last year. Best animations in the game honestly.


        Yeah, I thought the QB animations were all much better than all previous years, actually. The QB scramble or 'scramble while looking to throw' I thought was implemented nicely and the animations played out nicely (most of the time) meaning when u tapped the RT, and threw the ball, it, legit, looked like a throw on the run. The other thing I was actually totally impressed with last year and did NOT expect madden to EVER do correctly was HB screens. Not the screen, itself (which, for me works sometimes and sometimes not), but the QB animations for screens is on point, imo. The quicker moving back peddling feet that allow u to draw in defenders while still being able to throw. This makes screens look/feel much more realistic. Now, of course, it's a shame when your OL completely F's up the whole thing!!!! Lol. But, the QB animations during screens was a pleasant surprise for me.

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        • Cowboy008
          MVP
          • Mar 2012
          • 4574

          #334
          Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

          Originally posted by jpdavis82
          Latest from Rex but I thought the swat was still in


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          I thought it was R1 to swat the ball

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          • SolidSquid
            MVP
            • Aug 2014
            • 3159

            #335
            Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

            Originally posted by jpdavis82
            Latest from Rex but I thought the swat was still in


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            I could have sworn it was in 16. I even used square instead of triangle most of the time and I got a lot of defensive back punching or slapping the ball out of WRs hands. Maybe Rex misunderstood the question?

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            • jpdavis82
              All Star
              • Sep 2005
              • 8794

              #336
              Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

              It's still in(Here is Xbox One)


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              • SolidSquid
                MVP
                • Aug 2014
                • 3159

                #337
                Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

                Originally posted by jpdavis82
                It's still in(Here is Xbox One)


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                Unless it was just there for placebo, maybe Rex can clear it up on Twitter

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                • jpdavis82
                  All Star
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 8794

                  #338
                  Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

                  New swat coming apparently


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                  • OhMrHanky
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 1898

                    #339
                    Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

                    Yeah, I think people are sort of confusing swat and 'play the WR', and maybe even Rex took this question as meaning, 'since the swat button was in madden 16 with the RB button, will u ALSO be bringing it BACK with madden 17?'. Lol. I think there is just some slight miscommunication going on here. I didn't use swat much, as I enjoyed the new 'play the ball' A button or 'go for INT' Y button idea. But, to the guy that was complaining about 'no swat' button, I think his beef must be that on deep balls, u prob canNOT simply use RB to swat, u must use A button to 'play WR'. U could use the RB swat more for LBs undercutting a route than for CBs deep in coverage, imo.


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                    • OhMrHanky
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 1898

                      #340
                      Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

                      Originally posted by jpdavis82
                      New swat coming apparently


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                      Oh, well, there u go. Lol. This was posted at same time I was typing my previous reply. Well, maybe EVERYONE will be happy with swat and play the WR options in madden 17.

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                      • DeuceDouglas
                        Madden Dev Team
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 4297

                        #341
                        Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

                        It is confusing because it says that X is swat as well as RB so it makes you wonder if one might have been different than the other. I'm interested in seeing what the "new swat" is though.

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                        • howboutdat
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 1908

                          #342
                          Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

                          I just hope the wr and cb can stop being "tied" together once the ball is thrown.That is just horrible to me . i hate it .Let me have control , im not trying to just watch the cpu play a game.
                          Yup, i said it !



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                          • raidertiger
                            Rookie
                            • May 2011
                            • 493

                            #343
                            Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

                            Originally posted by howboutdat
                            I just hope the wr and cb can stop being "tied" together once the ball is thrown.That is just horrible to me . i hate it .Let me have control , im not trying to just watch the cpu play a game.
                            This is why Madden 16 was unplayable for me. Just felt unnatural and scripted.

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                            • OhMrHanky
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 1898

                              #344
                              Re: Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

                              Originally posted by raidertiger
                              This is why Madden 16 was unplayable for me. Just felt unnatural and scripted.


                              Like every other madden? Lol. Except for 13, for me, all maddens have felt scripted. But, yeah, it's tough. Overall, I was happy with WR/DB interactions, and we had 'some' control over what took place (going for INT or playing WR/swat attempt), and for me, then the ratings dictated the outcome which feels scripted. But, yeah, I understand wanting total control of the outcome and controlling when in the route u time the swat as opposed to seeing your DB in perfect position and watching him time the jump poorly or something and give up the catch. Again, for me, I can chalk this up to ratings at that point in the play, so I'm ok with it, but if they upgrade swat to better represent the timing of DB and it works appropriately, I'm all for it.

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                              • ninertravel
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 4835

                                #345
                                Re: Madden NFL 17 Features and Cover Shoot

                                Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
                                Also, does this mean the end of CFM?
                                I really really hope so, I am tired of spending 1 hour to create a 32 team franchise.. CFM really killed madden for me 4 years ago

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