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  • BA2929
    The Designated Hitter
    • Jul 2008
    • 3353

    #31
    Re: The NBA Draft Lottery Is Done, Where Do Teams Go From Here?

    Originally posted by Mauer4MVP
    The Wolves let that deter them from taking Curry. You never let a player dictate that.
    I would.

    I don't want a player on my team who just doesn't want to be there and will be gone the second his rookie deal is up. Or just flat out refuse to play for the team. You can make a lot of money playing basketball overseas.

    I mean, would you hire someone at your job who didn't want to work there and flat out told you that in the hiring process??
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    • Mauer4MVP
      MVP
      • Mar 2010
      • 2421

      #32
      Re: The NBA Draft Lottery Is Done, Where Do Teams Go From Here?

      Originally posted by BA2929
      I would.

      I don't want a player on my team who just doesn't want to be there and will be gone the second his rookie deal is up. Or just flat out refuse to play for the team. You can make a lot of money playing basketball overseas.

      I mean, would you hire someone at your job who didn't want to work there and flat out told you that in the hiring process??
      NBA teams have control over players for their first 9 years essentially.

      Curry also didn't want to be taken by Golden State. Now look at him.

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      • SpeedyClaxton
        Pro
        • Dec 2015
        • 657

        #33
        Re: The NBA Draft Lottery Is Done, Where Do Teams Go From Here?

        Originally posted by redsox4evur
        He'll force his way out. Like the players I mentioned. Whether it's by Philly just passing him up or trading to the Lakers.
        Like Okafor wanted to ended up on 76ers last year he was sooo not excited to be drafted there, but he couldn't do anything about it.
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        • mjarz02
          Rookie
          • Jul 2009
          • 435

          #34
          Originally posted by Mauer4MVP
          Eh. He doesn't really provide anything the Wolves don't already have, though. Rubio's already a top tier defending point guard. He's also a really good playmaker and have plenty of guys that can attack the basket.

          They desperately need another ball handler and lights out shooter. Murray is perfect for that.
          Rubio sucks at running the P&R which is so important in todays game and can't finish at the rim. He can also guard the 1 or the 2 with his 6'9.5 wingspan. Twolves don't have a problem scoring. San Antonio doesn't take a lot of threes and either does OKC.

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          • Mauer4MVP
            MVP
            • Mar 2010
            • 2421

            #35
            Re: The NBA Draft Lottery Is Done, Where Do Teams Go From Here?

            Originally posted by mjarz02
            Rubio sucks at running the P&R which is so important in todays game and can't finish at the rim. He can also guard the 1 or the 2 with his 6'9.5 wingspan. Twolves don't have a problem scoring. San Antonio doesn't take a lot of threes and either does OKC.
            Ehh. They're 12th in Off Rtg which is actually the same rating the Warriors had pre-Kerr era.

            They definitely have room to grow on offense, but defense is still their biggest need.

            And I understand those teams don't depend on the three and it's possible to succeed without it, but the Wolves definitely need to improve there.

            After looking up stats, Rubio is average in PnR. I'll concede I was wrong there, but that's just one facet of offense.
            Last edited by Mauer4MVP; 05-20-2016, 09:17 AM.

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            • jyod21
              Rookie
              • Mar 2014
              • 368

              #36
              Re: The NBA Draft Lottery Is Done, Where Do Teams Go From Here?

              Originally posted by Mauer4MVP
              NBA teams have control over players for their first 9 years essentially.

              Curry also didn't want to be taken by Golden State. Now look at him.
              They have control over them for 5 years. Where are you getting 9? They could play their first 4, and then just sign their qualifying offer for their 5th year, and then hit the open market, ala Greg Monroe.

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              • JazzMan
                SOLDIER, First Class...
                • Feb 2012
                • 13564

                #37
                Re: The NBA Draft Lottery Is Done, Where Do Teams Go From Here?

                Originally posted by jyod21
                They have control over them for 5 years. Where are you getting 9? They could play their first 4, and then just sign their qualifying offer for their 5th year, and then hit the open market, ala Greg Monroe.
                Because most guys are smart enough to know that the big money will come on those max contracts that their team will sign them to when they are a restricted free agent.
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                • Mauer4MVP
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 2421

                  #38
                  Re: The NBA Draft Lottery Is Done, Where Do Teams Go From Here?

                  Originally posted by JazzMan
                  Because most guys are smart enough to know that the big money will come on those max contracts that their team will sign them to when they are a restricted free agent.

                  This. 99/100 times players will take that guaranteed money and extra that their team can give them.

                  Sure there are some instances like Greg Monroe, but it's a risk.

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                  • jyod21
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 368

                    #39
                    Re: The NBA Draft Lottery Is Done, Where Do Teams Go From Here?

                    Originally posted by Mauer4MVP
                    This. 99/100 times players will take that guaranteed money and extra that their team can give them.

                    Sure there are some instances like Greg Monroe, but it's a risk.
                    It's definitely a risk, but they're still only under team control for the first 5 years. They have a choice whether to leave or not, if they so choose. Saying they will take the extra money would mean they would be under team control for their whole career, because the team they previously played for can offer them the most money at every contract. That's not what team control is.

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                    • Mauer4MVP
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 2421

                      #40
                      Re: The NBA Draft Lottery Is Done, Where Do Teams Go From Here?

                      Originally posted by jyod21
                      It's definitely a risk, but they're still only under team control for the first 5 years. They have a choice whether to leave or not, if they so choose. Saying they will take the extra money would mean they would be under team control for their whole career, because the team they previously played for can offer them the most money at every contract. That's not what team control is.
                      Okay technically 5 years, but still combine that with the perks of staying with their current team and how unlikely it is a player chooses to sign that QO, the point still stands.

                      You take the player no matter what.

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                      • BA2929
                        The Designated Hitter
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 3353

                        #41
                        Re: The NBA Draft Lottery Is Done, Where Do Teams Go From Here?

                        Originally posted by Mauer4MVP
                        Okay technically 5 years, but still combine that with the perks of staying with their current team and how unlikely it is a player chooses to sign that QO, the point still stands.

                        You take the player no matter what.
                        I still don't think they take him. Especially if he flat out tells them he doesn't want to play for them AND they have Dario Saric possibly coming in soon. Brandon Ingram fits that team better. At some point you have to stop hoarding big men and try to put together an actual team. I mean honestly, how are they going to get Noel, Embiid, Okafor, Saric AND Simmons all on the court? Trading one is easier said than done. No way they get back what they invested in one of those guys.

                        Many players have forced their way out of not getting drafted by a team in nearly every sport. It happens. Steve Francis did it to Vancouver but they took him anyway. He forced a trade before he played a game and it basically ruined the franchise.
                        Last edited by BA2929; 05-20-2016, 05:22 PM.
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                        • hanzsomehanz
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                          • Oct 2009
                          • 3306

                          #42
                          Re: The NBA Draft Lottery Is Done, Where Do Teams Go From Here?

                          3 and 9 is big for Celtics and Raps - Knicks got to be feeling hurt lol

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                          • luke4387
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 186

                            #43
                            Philly - Ingram (this could go either way)
                            Lakers - Simmons
                            Boston - Poeltl
                            Phoenix - Bender
                            Minny - Hield
                            Pels - Dunn
                            Denver - Brown
                            Sacto - Murray
                            Toronto - Labissiere
                            Milwaukee - Davis
                            Orlando - Ellenson
                            Utah - Valentine
                            Phoenix - Jones
                            Chicago - Luwawu

                            I'd love to see Dunn on the TWolves with Wiggins and Towns.

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                            • HowDareI
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 1914

                              #44
                              Re: The NBA Draft Lottery Is Done, Where Do Teams Go From Here?

                              I want Ingram as a Sixers fan.

                              Ben Simmons reportedly wants to go to LA, okay cool, you just shown you're immature and money hungry. Dude you're a ROOKIE you don't have any clout in this league. Come here, prove yourself, be a star, win a MVP/Title, then talk about deals. You didn't do JACK in college.

                              And whoever said about Saric is 100% correct; him and Simmons are basically the same player and analysts don't even realize this. Yea, Simmons is a lot more athletic but Saric can actually shoot and still run the offense as a stretch 4 off the bench like Turkoglu.

                              Honestly I'd take Ingram 1, then see what kinda picks/players we can get for Okafor.

                              Nerlens is a stud defensively and an all-energy/hustle player. If Embiid never pans out, Nerlens can play center alone alongside a smaller 4. Okafor can't play at the 5 alone..he needs a rim protector with him, he keeps our options limited. And Embiid actually has a shot so he compliments Nerlens a lot better.

                              If we can come out this draft with Ingram and Buddy Hield someone I'd be ecstatic. We can sign basically any guard in the league with our money.
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                              • SpeedyClaxton
                                Pro
                                • Dec 2015
                                • 657

                                #45
                                Re: The NBA Draft Lottery Is Done, Where Do Teams Go From Here?

                                Sorry guys but i must disappoint yall since you've been looking at Dario Saric as potential franchise savior from overseas, he isn't one. He is only average offensively, poor man Turkoglu if you like to compare. Needless to say both Vesely or Ekpe Udoh are better scorers than Saric in Europe lol.
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