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  • SageInfinite
    Stop The GOAT Talk
    • Jul 2002
    • 11896

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    New Madden 17 video - Defensive Gap Control System

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  • adub88
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    • May 2003
    • 964

    #2
    Re: New Madden 17 video - Defensive Gap Control System

    Really wish they'd take that text off the screen lol
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    • msdm27
      Pro
      • Nov 2009
      • 956

      #3
      Re: New Madden 17 video - Defensive Gap Control System

      What is the pulling right tackle doing? Basically angling out and away from Kuechly? Looked weird imo
      Edit: watched it again and can't really see why he'd run so wide, the play is to short side of the field and there is a WR blocking the lone CB on that side, only Kuechly was a threat. I reckon we'll add this to the growing list of "it's on rookie level" explanations
      Last edited by msdm27; 05-30-2016, 12:34 PM.

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      • SageInfinite
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        • Jul 2002
        • 11896

        #4
        Re: New Madden 17 video - Defensive Gap Control System

        Originally posted by msdm27
        What is the pulling right tackle doing? Basically angling out and away from Kuechly? Looked weird imo
        Same thing I was wondering...
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        • HolyCrap
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          • Aug 2005
          • 298

          #5
          Re: New Madden 17 video - Defensive Gap Control System

          Originally posted by SageInfinite
          Same thing I was wondering...
          Guard pulled way to deep allowing for Luke to make that easy play. Hopefully that gets fixed.

          They teach the guard to pull as close to the line as possible and pick up first man. Hopefully its a difficulty setting/early build issue.
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          • Gridiron
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            • Jun 2008
            • 418

            #6
            Re: New Madden 17 video - Defensive Gap Control System

            Originally posted by msdm27
            What is the pulling right tackle doing? Basically angling out and away from Kuechly? Looked weird imo
            2 big problems. #71... don't even have to say much on that, you can all see it. Reminds me of this:

            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/2HCYBxATxuQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

            It's something how the linemen just run past obvious blocks.

            And 2, that outrageous blow-up tackle still in the game that you could nail 90% of the time if you wanted to. Why can't they make full body contact and bring a player down with a real tackle more frequently? Why is that such a bad thing to them? Everything shouldn't be a highlight reel hit.

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            • Godgers12
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              • Dec 2012
              • 2265

              #7
              Re: New Madden 17 video - Defensive Gap Control System

              Better defensive AI = Wose offensive AI. Can never seem to find the balance.
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              • jfsolo
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                • May 2003
                • 12965

                #8
                Re: New Madden 17 video - Defensive Gap Control System

                Yes, this video was a complete fail. He may not respond, but I had to tweet it to Clint, and let him know how bad it made the oline look. There are mistakes, and then there is legacy garbage Madden A.I. This seems like the latter.
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                • azdawgpound
                  All Star
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 5533

                  #9
                  Re: New Madden 17 video - Defensive Gap Control System

                  Yea the run blocking has been an issue in Madden for longest esp the pulling guard and fb that usually run right by who they suppose engage and block resulting in lost of yards.

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                  • msdm27
                    Pro
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 956

                    #10
                    Re: New Madden 17 video - Defensive Gap Control System

                    Originally posted by Gridiron
                    2 big problems. #71... don't even have to say much on that, you can all see it. Reminds me of this:

                    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/2HCYBxATxuQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                    It's something how the linemen just run past obvious blocks.

                    And 2, that outrageous blow-up tackle still in the game that you could nail 90% of the time if you wanted to. Why can't they make full body contact and bring a player down with a real tackle more frequently? Why is that such a bad thing to them? Everything shouldn't be a highlight reel hit.
                    Re: the highlight reel type tackle
                    I know some will come soon to post that it was just one tackle in a short video, but if anyone has played more than three games of Madden then they have to acknowledge that's a concern, the tackle is way overdone and it's the go-to tackle for most open field tackle animations in the game... Not a real good look

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                    • Gridiron
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                      • Jun 2008
                      • 418

                      #11
                      Re: New Madden 17 video - Defensive Gap Control System

                      Originally posted by msdm27
                      Re: the highlight reel type tackle
                      I know some will come soon to post that it was just one tackle in a short video, but if anyone has played more than three games of Madden then they have to acknowledge that's a concern, the tackle is way overdone and it's the go-to tackle for most open field tackle animations in the game... Not a real good look
                      What's crazy is, there are tackles for this exact situation that look great in this game but they don't play as often. It's unfortunate cause when the realistic ones play it makes the game look dope.

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                      • 4thQtrStre5S
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 3051

                        #12
                        Re: New Madden 17 video - Defensive Gap Control System

                        The RT was taking the outside, and I believe the RG was pulling inside, but got blocked; I believe the RG was to take Kuechly; looks like they were trying a Packer Sweep.

                        EDIT: On sceond look, the RG needed to take on the End.

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                        • Cowboy008
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 4574

                          #13
                          Re: New Madden 17 video - Defensive Gap Control System

                          That video was the first one that I think was bad. The offensive lineman doesn't even attempt to block Kuechly.

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                          • GoJags904
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                            • Aug 2014
                            • 773

                            #14
                            Re: New Madden 17 video - Defensive Gap Control System

                            2 things that I think could fix this issue:

                            1. Offensive AI improvement to pick up assignments.


                            2. Improve Block Shedding animations so the gap made by blocking can be pushed/closed by above avg. to elite defenders. If a good Def. Player sheds Lft or Rght then that will close the hole or he'd shed and make the tackle.


                            I think thats 18 wishlist material that needs too much code work for a patch but it's partly already in game, it just need adjusting to fit with player ratings. EA could just be nervous if they make the game TOO realistic that casual fans won't get enough big plays every possession to keep playing every year. I say make the game for fans that actually Football for once in this ps4 generation, I have faith.
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                            • mrprice33
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                              • Jul 2003
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                              #15
                              Re: New Madden 17 video - Defensive Gap Control System

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                              Only hope is that's AI offense on rookie


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