EA Sports UFC 2 Patch 1.07 Coming Soon, Here Are Some Details

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  • GameplayDevUFC
    Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
    • Jun 2014
    • 2830

    #16
    Re: #patchspoilers 1.07

    Originally posted by SwedishTouch76
    Was the counter window off a denied clinch really the biggest most pressing problem?
    Based on user feedback at the time the work was done, absolutely.

    Go back 4 weeks and read all the feedback from the LEC.

    It was 90% complaints about clinch spam.

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    • fishingtime
      Handling it
      • Aug 2013
      • 1738

      #17
      Re: #patchspoilers 1.07

      Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
      Based on user feedback at the time the work was done, absolutely.

      Go back 4 weeks and read all the feedback from the LEC.

      It was 90% complaints about clinch spam.
      Can't deny that. You guys are definitely listening to the feedback. Even if I don't agree with the changes.

      Edit: Don't agree with #1 and #4.
      Last edited by fishingtime; 05-30-2016, 04:46 PM. Reason: clarification
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      • Jonnysmallfeet
        Rookie
        • May 2016
        • 122

        #18
        Re: #patchspoilers 1.07

        Originally posted by fishingtime
        Can't deny that. You guys are definitely listening to the feedback. Even if I don't agree with the changes.
        Everyone won't be happy but they can't please everyone, majority of the community is what is most important and they have made their feelings clear on this matter since day one.

        They have done the right thing if people havn't learnt the clinch by now then its most likely because they can't.

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        • Bigg Cee
          MVP
          • Apr 2016
          • 4676

          #19
          Re: #patchspoilers 1.07

          Originally posted by fishingtime
          That would be fine if you could start striking as soon as you enter the clinch. However, your opponent has to start doing something before you can. At least most times. This wasn't thought through on this. You basically will have to deny to strike.
          Ya but it also will slow down the clinch to. Sometimes in mma ppl clinch just because there tired or just want to hold on, so this way you might have scenarios were you see ppl clinch up and just not move and stayed glued to see who does the first move.

          It would be nice also if the ref stand up/Break timer was faster in the clinch more so when ppl get denied over and over and it becomes a hugging match.
          Last edited by Bigg Cee; 05-30-2016, 04:54 PM.

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          • Daddyballz
            Rookie
            • May 2016
            • 26

            #20
            Re: #patchspoilers 1.07

            Wtf is up with the second half of the ufc 2-live event competition I thought today was the second qualifier to get in? Or is it just for the people that already qualified?

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            • fishingtime
              Handling it
              • Aug 2013
              • 1738

              #21
              Re: #patchspoilers 1.07

              Originally posted by Jonnysmallfeet
              Everyone won't be happy but they can't please everyone, majority of the community is what is most important and they have made their feelings clear on this matter since day one.

              They have done the right thing if people havn't learnt the clinch by now then its most likely because they can't.
              True, but they are catering to the people who can't adapt. You don't nerf the clinch because people can't understand it. You educate them on what to do in the clinch. Uppercuts should be one of the most damaging strikes in the clinch. I never use it though because it is only slightly better than a single button hook.

              Did the blocking in the clinch get fixed? You can use body punches and the opponent has to block them like they were blocking knees.
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              • fishingtime
                Handling it
                • Aug 2013
                • 1738

                #22
                Re: #patchspoilers 1.07

                Originally posted by Bigg Cee
                Ya but it also will slow down the clinch to. Sometimes in mma ppl clinch just because there tired or just want to hold on, so this way you might have scenarios were you see ppl clinch up and just not move and stayed glued to see who does the first move.

                It would be nice also if the ref stand up/Break timer was faster in the clinch more so when ppl get denied over and over and it becomes a hugging match.
                The clinch is already slow if you play it right. You have to watch your stamina or they will turn it on you and finish you. People should be able to clinch to gain stamina back. That is a real tactic. Granted this should only be certain clinch entries. Which should actually become the default. (Over/under). Maybe double under as well.

                The ref shouldn't break if you keep getting denied. The fighter is still working.
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                • Jonnysmallfeet
                  Rookie
                  • May 2016
                  • 122

                  #23
                  Re: #patchspoilers 1.07

                  Originally posted by fishingtime
                  True, but they are catering to the people who can't adapt. You don't nerf the clinch because people can't understand it. You educate them on what to do in the clinch. Uppercuts should be one of the most damaging strikes in the clinch. I never use it though because it is only slightly better than a single button hook.

                  Did the blocking in the clinch get fixed? You can use body punches and the opponent has to block them like they were blocking knees.
                  Some people want to adapt but can't.

                  Some people have slower reaction times they can't react quick enough for denials and for someone that mixes up shots in the clinch.

                  So they might block your first elbow and don't react quick enough for the knee and then they are out.

                  I had a friend who literally stopped playing because he was just getting ruined in the clinch nearly all the time, he loves MMA but is terrible at games. He deserves to enjoy his experience aswell just the same as everyone else.

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                  • Bigg Cee
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 4676

                    #24
                    Re: #patchspoilers 1.07

                    Originally posted by fishingtime
                    The clinch is already slow if you play it right. You have to watch your stamina or they will turn it on you and finish you. People should be able to clinch to gain stamina back. That is a real tactic. Granted this should only be certain clinch entries. Which should actually become the default. (Over/under). Maybe double under as well.

                    The ref shouldn't break if you keep getting denied. The fighter is still working.
                    I AGREE 100% ON THIS!

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                    • SMOKEZERO
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 818

                      #25
                      Re: #patchspoilers 1.07

                      The high competition and stakes of the LEC is the best thing to happen in terms of weeding out exploits and balancing the game. I'd guess they're trying to push this patch for the 199 LEC.

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                      • fishingtime
                        Handling it
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 1738

                        #26
                        Re: #patchspoilers 1.07

                        Originally posted by Jonnysmallfeet
                        Some people want to adapt but can't.

                        Some people have slower reaction times they can't react quick enough for denials and for someone that mixes up shots in the clinch.

                        So they might block your first elbow and don't react quick enough for the knee and then they are out.

                        I had a friend who literally stopped playing because he was just getting ruined in the clinch nearly all the time, he loves MMA but is terrible at games. He deserves to enjoy his experience aswell just the same as everyone else.
                        I agree, but within reason. Can he not handle himself on the ground? The clinch is actually easier than the ground on both sides. The only time it becomes dangerous is when you have low stamina. You essentially are giving the guys who are good at the game, but aren't the best in the clinch the tools to become better because they don't have to worry about a position. That would be like nerfing the ground game to death. You don't nerf because people can't adjust. This is a game. People need to learn all the aspects. Just because one gives them trouble because they weren't used to it because it was basically non-existent in the first game, doesn't mean you make it easier to escape. Might as well make mount take one blocked strike to transition because that is a much more dangerous spot.
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                        • Trillz
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 1369

                          #27
                          Re: #patchspoilers 1.07

                          Originally posted by Daddyballz
                          Wtf is up with the second half of the ufc 2-live event competition I thought today was the second qualifier to get in? Or is it just for the people that already qualified?
                          Probs when the patch is released it will be up, patch should be out when UFC 199 is in place.
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                          • Bigg Cee
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 4676

                            #28
                            Re: #patchspoilers 1.07

                            Originally posted by Trillz
                            Probs when the patch is released it will be up, patch should be out when UFC 199 is in place.
                            I say this patch will be out Wednesday mourning or Thursday mourning.

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                            • fishingtime
                              Handling it
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 1738

                              #29
                              Re: #patchspoilers 1.07

                              Originally posted by SMOKEZERO
                              The high competition and stakes of the LEC is the best thing to happen in terms of weeding out exploits and balancing the game. I'd guess they're trying to push this patch for the 199 LEC.
                              The feedback was based on playing people in much higher divisions though right? So you will definitely get some feedback that is biased against something so many don't understand, or want to. I got clinched a lot too, and my biggest issue with the clinch was the lag that wouldn't let you transition.
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                              • GameplayDevUFC
                                Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 2830

                                #30
                                Re: #patchspoilers 1.07

                                Originally posted by fishingtime
                                The feedback was based on playing people in much higher divisions though right? So you will definitely get some feedback that is biased against something so many don't understand, or want to. I got clinched a lot too, and my biggest issue with the clinch was the lag that wouldn't let you transition.
                                A lot of the same feedback came from top 10 players in LEC as well though.

                                When top players and mid players say the same thing, it's probably something you should look at.

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