The Clinch is beautiful

[EarvGotti]

Its in a beautiful state right now, and I mean that 100%. You and your opponent both have to really read each other, just like the ground, but on a smaller scale.

Patience is key. No longer does spamming strikes keep you safe. It's incredibly balanced since the last patch. I've completed dominated some guys in the clinch and some other high level guys completely neutralized my clinch. If you're struggling with the clinch, most likely you're struggling with the mental part of it. It doesnt take incredible stick skills or reflexes to have a good clinch....its 90% mental.

I'm primarily a striker and even I can appreciate what the devs have done with the clinch. Great job guys.

[Chief Siwash]

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Ppl really just need to learn the denies in single collar and they'll be fine

[Bigg Cee]

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Earv Gotti did I play you in ranked a few days ago??? I played someone with the same screen name on ps4 and I thought it might be you.

[EarvGotti]

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Earv Gotti did I play you in ranked a few days ago??? I played someone with the same screen name on ps4 and I thought it might be you.

YES YOU DID! LOL. I even sent you a message and you didnt respond

But your ground game is awesome dude. You had Cejudo and handle me on the ground. I picked up a few stuff from that fight. Didn't realize you were that good.

[Bigg Cee]

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YES YOU DID! LOL. I even sent you a message and you didnt respond

But your ground game is awesome dude. You had Cejudo and handle me on the ground. I picked up a few stuff from that fight. Didn't realize you were that good.

Ya I have my settings blocked from getting messages. To much hate and spam mail. I don't like that to much.

ya it was a fun game, the ground is what I'm good at, striking not so much but I'm ok and clinch game I'm ok, also i do like to clinch a lot even if they are better and deny everything. My goal is to get it to the ground anyway, even if it means I force you to deny over and over from the clinch. The sweep is my friend. lol

But overall it was a good fight. Fun!

[Bigg Cee]

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YES YOU DID! LOL. I even sent you a message and you didnt respond

But your ground game is awesome dude. You had Cejudo and handle me on the ground. I picked up a few stuff from that fight. Didn't realize you were that good.

but one thing I am good at and I give myself lots of credit is the fakes on the ground. I'm a fake ninja when it comes to moving around on the ground over and over. The only thing that kills me is the lag that will force me to get denied but when it's smooth I'm really good at fakes and ground game.

[Senktris]

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Are you guys playing the same game I am playing right now? Right now it feels like before the patch... in my last 12 or 13 online fights, EVERY opponent clinched me to death. The same cheese in every fight

[norml]

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When such a high % of fights are still finished in the MT Clinch I can't agree with you. If it wasn't still OP people wouldn't constantly spam it. When strikes don't work there are flying subs from MT too.

[SUGATA]

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How clinch is beautiful, while still:
1. MT and SC whips are useless because of broken blocking (whip does not create block cancel and requires to reactivate block again after some time to get blocking by right timing).
2. Double under, Body lock - are still underpowered and not usable so much, all players go for MT.

[EarvGotti]

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Its not OP, a lot of people just don't understand the dynamics of it. You have to be thinking quickly while you're in the clinch or else you're toast. The reason why top players are using the clinch is because its the least mastered discipline amongst most of the player population.

Before the patch it was a little OP, but now its completely balanced. Just because most players dont understand something, it doesnt make it OP. Its the players responsibility to properly understand every discipline.

And this is MMA. Its up to your opponent to exploit your weakness

[Dave_S]

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In my opinion the ability to hold someone in the clinch is OP, the actual clinch strikes seem underpowered to me now.

I'm terrible in the clinch though, curious what good people think about the power of clinch strikes.

I also think double collar clinch is way overpowered or over used against the cage. Isn't single collar and other clinch types used WAY more in real life against the cage than double collar? I think most dirty boxing I see against cage isn't from double collar tie.

[norml]

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In my opinion the ability to hold someone in the clinch is OP, the actual clinch strikes seem underpowered to me now.

I'm terrible in the clinch though, curious what good people think about the power of clinch strikes.

I also think double collar clinch is way overpowered or over used against the cage. Isn't single collar and other clinch types used WAY more in real life against the cage than double collar? I think most dirty boxing I see against cage isn't from double collar tie.

I'm pretty good in the clinch. In general I think it's pretty good except for MT Strikes. The knees and elbows to the head are OP. 2 and you're down unless your chin health is maxed. It should be hard to hold and finish someone in MT but a very high percentage of fights end there.

If switching block from high to low or vice versa wasn't so slow it wouldn't be an issue. But, since hitting block tells the opponent whats open they can wait and your reactionary block is usually too slow.

[fballturkey]

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It's the best MMA game clinch I've seen, so that's good. Power strikes from MT badly need to end the clinch though, like they often do in real life.

[Phenomenal01]

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It's the best MMA game clinch I've seen, so that's good. Power strikes from MT badly need to end the clinch though, like they often do in real life.

Exactly I said the same thing. EA needs to look at the gameplay and compare it to real fights and access how to make the outcome the same. Right now people spam clinch and TDs which doesn't happen in MMA. People pick spots to shoot 1 TD that succeeds in MMA because realistically, if they force shots, they either get KO'd or they gas trying to force TDs, so they pick spots around 3-2 min mark to even the match and try to wear on opponents.

Clinch is mostly used defensively and to control/point score, wear on opponents, and potentially set up TDs, very few fighters can successfully utilize clinch strikes to do substantial damage and when they do its 1/20 fights, not every fight, not spamming clinch attempts.

When you do that you get KO'd for being predictable like Frank Mir did against Mark Hunt. Hunt knew that was his only shot, Mir got desperate and started forcing TDs and ate an uppercut coming in and lights out.

None of this logic applies to this game, its just a spam fest of broken mechanics because it hasn't been fixed yet.

[Hayden]

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It's the best MMA game clinch I've seen, so that's good. Power strikes from MT badly need to end the clinch though, like they often do in real life.

So, uh, have you seen the way undisputed 3 did it? I forgave EA for the way it was in EA UFC 1 only because I thought they didn't get enough time to make something proper.

Then ea ufc 2 comes out and its basically the same terrible system lol.

Two fighters standing in the middle of the octagon just stationary looks totally stupid and not realistic at all. It reminds me of at training when we do grappling drills, not a real fight situation.

Yes, I know you can move your opponent about, but its these dumb little nudges you do.

In UFC 3's clinch it was fast, full of movement and it represented the struggle of a real clinch. Strength ratings mattered and determined whether you were able to push push forward easier or not.

EA UFC's clinch system just looks completely half-designed and is just laughable. It doesn't do a good enough job of representing any sort of clinch I've seen in fights or been in myself.