Need market help from the pros

[Dag_BoomStick]

So I'm not one of you guys that lives on the market though this year I've been trying to get better at it. I am slightly bias when it comes to the Red Sox so I need an outside perspective from some of you that do this stuff on the daily.

I made a few investments here and there and I would like to know where you think these guys would top out at.

Xander bogarts: I have 3 to sell most of which I bought when he was going for around 3-4K. I've watched him rise and fall based on when the updates change and I've seen him top out around 9k I believe. Last I checked he was about 8200. I realize he doesn't have the best power out there and is currently at 90. I fully believe he might get a boost to 91-92 this week with the possibility of maybe going diamond by the all star break. What is your opinion on him possibly going diamond sooner or later and if he doesn't what do you think is a good selling point with him price wise.

Travis shaw: at the start of the game I invested in him heavily buying 35 at 25 stubs a pop. Since then he has topped out at 250 that I've seen. He's been upgraded to 78 overal as of now and though he went through a slump the last week he has started to break out of that. At the start of the season I anticipated he might make it to a low gold. At this point I'd be happy if he got a boost to around 81-82. Same question posed with Xander.

Jackie braddly jr: bought 10 of him before he went on his streak for around 50-100 stubs each. Seen him go as high as 1500 and almost pulled the trigger then but he didn't get the bump to gold. I think this week he might finally go gold. I don't see him topping a 90 rating this year but would like to wait and see with him if he does but if he doesn't go gold this week and is selling for around 1500 again I may just pull the trigger.

Thoughts?

[mikeq672]

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Shaw isnt getting a boost anytime soon. He cant hit lefties and hes still in a slump.

[reflekt2099]

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I could see Bogaerts' contact against righties go up (he's batting .349 against righties) to like...95. Also, his plate vision should go up. 75 is too low for someone on pace to be the batting champion. I also think his speed should be boosted to somewhere like 65-70, while his "speed" cat should be boosted to 60-65. He's on pace for 20+ steals. With that said, boosts just from those 3 cats should easily allow him to go +1 to a 91 overall, with a chance of +2 to 92 overall, should they boost some other cats (such as clutch; he's batting .403 with runners in scoring position, that's called being clutch).

but i think it'll be at least a month, it not longer, before they consider boosting him to a diamond. i'd say some time after the all-star break, with like a month left in the season.

his value in the next few weeks, could easily go up to 10-12k.

[ph33]

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Market dudes, what are you guys doing with Giancarlo Stanton, especially if you've locked him in?

I feel like he may go down to gold and never come back up, but there's been speculation about that for weeks now.

[srdclark]

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OP: I'm in a similar position to you, experience-wise, so take my (non-player-specific) advice with a grain of salt.

Decide what your plan is when you buy a card. Is it a long-term investment? A quick flip? An early-week purchase anticipating a Friday upgrade? A one-day turnaround anticipating an Inside Edge-based popularity boost?

Figure out what return you want on your investment. It's rare that you'll invest for 25 stubs and sell when the common goes diamond. Making 50 stubs on a 50-stub investment is wonderful. Making 200 on a 1k investment is wonderful. Can you make more flipping 3k into 4k, or flipping 3 1ks into 1300s? Long-term investments are great, but don't let your stubs get stuck "waiting" on a guy to go up, if the return isn't going to justify the time.

Keep this example in mind: A lot of guys bought 84OVR Polanco at 900 stubs expecting him to go gold. When he finally did, they sold him for under 1100 stubs. They made sub-100-stub profits when they could have double 900 stubs in an hour's worth of work; never mind they would have made more stubs using Quick Sell! I made some easy stubs buying up 85OVR Polancos for less than 1k and just quick selling them.

Bottom line, you always want your stubs doing work. If you don't know what a particular card is doing for you, sell it and buy cards you can make a plan for!

[srdclark]

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Market dudes, what are you guys doing with Giancarlo Stanton, especially if you've locked him in?

I feel like he may go down to gold and never come back up, but there's been speculation about that for weeks now.

If he's locked in, your choices are to play with him, or feed him to your created player. I wouldn't feed anything above a silver, personally. (Edit: I didn't consider quick selling him. Honestly, I wouldn't quick sell him even if he does go gold. You should be able to make 5k if you're playing the market, and you'll be bummed if you destroy him and he starts playing at diamond level again. Which is entirely counter to my arguments above about letting potential stubs sit, but a locked-in Stanton is a non-renewable resource.)

If he's not locked in, sell that card while it has value. Remember, too - you can flip cards in reverse! If I can sell a Stanton for 45,899 and then buy one for 40,001 (based on current prices) then I'll end up with a Stanton in my collection plus 1308 stubs in profit! OR! I can sell the Stanton now, use the 41k in capital for investments in guys I think will go up tomorrow! Maybe that 41k becomes 50k, and I can still replace my Stanton for 40k (or less, if he drops to gold!) and all I've lost is one evening without Stanton on my DD team and I've made an easy 10k.

[BlessingSpore72]

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Market dudes, what are you guys doing with Giancarlo Stanton, especially if you've locked him in?

I feel like he may go down to gold and never come back up, but there's been speculation about that for weeks now.

I have locked him in and i barely use him. I am almost thinking of quickselling him for 5k. If he goes gold and stays there i will only get 1k and definitely never use him

[NKRDIBL]

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My opinion. I'm not a long term huge investment type gut. And rather flip cards on the market. My personal opinion would be to sell Xander in a Thursday while everyone anticipates he will get am upgrade.

I'd keep shaw in hopes he has an upgrade to gold where you can get a 1000 stubs per. If he doesn't. It's not a big lose for how little you spent.

With JBJ. I don't see to much where the devs could upgrade him. He spikes to around 1200-1500 every Thursday. Sell him then. Or hope for a gold. I personally don't see him going gold any time soon. Unless he keeps up his power numbers.

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[BigOscar]

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My opinion. I'm not a long term huge investment type gut. And rather flip cards on the market. My personal opinion would be to sell Xander in a Thursday while everyone anticipates he will get am upgrade.

I'd keep shaw in hopes he has an upgrade to gold where you can get a 1000 stubs per. If he doesn't. It's not a big lose for how little you spent.

With JBJ. I don't see to much where the devs could upgrade him. He spikes to around 1200-1500 every Thursday. Sell him then. Or hope for a gold. I personally don't see him going gold any time soon. Unless he keeps up his power numbers.

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I'd agree with this. People trying to invest on Thursdays seem to inflate the price far more than an actual upgrade on the Friday. Even if the player does get an upgrade, if he's an obvious candidate then so many people have "invested" in them that their price goes down on the Friday anyway as so many people try and sell them at the same time.

Personally I don' bother with investments, it's just stubs I could use to flip that I have tied up in cards that could take weeks to upgrade and even if they do will only go up by smallish amounts. I'd make far, far more using that investment money to flip than I would having it sitting in investment cards. Obviously if you have enough to do both, or simply don't have the time or desire to flip then investments can help make a few stubs

[ph33]

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Re: Stanton

Yeah I am leaning towards the quick sell. Already got Trout and Harper, and Gwynn/Ichiro/Jackson/Floyd/Holliday/Dawson FB cards. Stanton's defense blows too so I don't even feel like it's worth keeping him around.

WTF why is his discipline 99, just noticed this

[Beatles]

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I am hoping Dee Gordon, Strasburg, Cole, Longoria, and Cano go back to normal prices. I have some other investments but those guys are my main ones. Longo is on the rise(I've lost 4000 stubs on him so far) but all the rest have dropped under what they were going for a week ago. The highest I've seen Gordon go is 13,500 but I was holding out for 14,000 and now I haven't seen him get over 11,000 and Cano didn't go diamond and he went down 4000 stubs. I'm starting to think low risk low reward is a better strategy for me when flipping.

[Foldzy]

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I've put all my faith in Devon Travis, I have over 100 of him

[skaloper]

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I've put all my faith in Devon Travis, I have over 100 of him

He hit a bit of a rough patch the past two weeks. So I bet it's a month before he turns silver.

[srdclark]

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He hit a bit of a rough patch the past two weeks. So I bet it's a month before he turns silver.

I think Pat and Buck pointed out tonight, that he has just now had a spring training's worth of ABs. You can see that his timing is coming around, at the same time as the rest of the offence is getting hot. Even the bottom of the order is producing - multiple multi-HR games by Pillar, doubles and triples by Ryan Goins, Russ Martin finding his stroke again (and don't be surprised if he gets put back to gold in the next few weeks). Hitting is contagious and Travis is going to get his share. Just don't expect him to get his bump right away. Thankfully, he's pretty cheap to stockpile when you get a few extra stubs.

My concern is when Tulo finishes his rehab assignment, and we lose Darwin Barney's .300 bat...