NHL 17 Q&A #2 - Collisions, AI Improvements, New Goalie Cam, No Roster Sharing & More

[THESHAMISASHAME]

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Every year most people ask for roster share or editable goalie masks or new designs for masks and every year it didnt make the cut but were looking into it ?

Maybe they just dont have the funds or resources to address these simple things but to just release the same core game year after year with a few tweaks its getting tired but any game is better than nothing but it sure is starting to look like its being mailed in each year.

[Moose24x]

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I haven't had as much fun with an EA game as I did playing with the improved International rosters during the olympics, and starting the Blues from scratch and making a playoff run.

The fact that they still haven't added roster sharing really makes me question getting the game. The gameplay itself will have to really shine, and unfortunately EA has burned my faith on that one too many times now.



Personally, I don't think that excuse holds a lot of water. For starters, a team that was likely smaller before the NHL series took off did amazing things at innovating the series back when hockey as a sport was less popular. They did it because they wanted to make the game a great representation of hockey, and in doing so totally changed the way the game was played by creating the skill stick.

I think my frustration stems from the fact that from all I can tell, EA's focus is nearly exclusively on HUT and EASHL. Game changes don't really seem to get much focus unless they directly benefit those game modes. Be a GM last year essentially became what it should have been in NHL15, which was NHL14's gameplay with small improvements. Honestly, they didn't add much. The interactions with players doesn't really seem to have an effect on anything, and just seems to be there to fill empty space. Same for scouting. My problem with Be a GM is that nothing matters.

I hate to sound so negative, but I guess I just get frustrated when people say "Well, you kind of have to accept it because it's a smaller team and a less popular sport". I don't hold it against the devs, they're just following the roadmap set by EA. I'm sure like any employee, they've got a list of things they would change in their product and at their company.

I just get frustrated when people try to let EA off the hook for feeding us garbage, because of the size of the team, or the popularity of the sport. They innovated before with a smaller team and a less popular sport, they can do it again.

This is exactly how I feel.

The EASHL should really just be a separate product.

SO much of what the online community vocally complains about ends up impacting what the offline community has to settle for. If the EASHL, which doesn't require the NHL license, could be a download on PSN/XB Live and be subscription based, they could probably actually increase profits by selling subscriptions, exclusive equipment and customization options, etc. while simultaneously dramatically increasing the quality of the NHL game, which does require the exclusive NHL license yet, unfortunately, sees the NHL portion getting the least attention.

[Simple Mathematics]

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It's a shame. I've been putting in some serious work this off season for the potential return of the Revamped Rosters. I have so much work done already - it's a shame it will be just for myself again this year.

If there is enough interest, maybe I could post a video of my ratings or maybe an excel spreadsheet.

[Lofton]

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I just think EA doesn't get it, making a roster isn't just about moving players around different teams or signing a player from free agency.

Its all about setting players apart from one another. I can deke through an entire team using a 60 overall player and sometimes lower, everybody's skill level is the same. And its been that way for some time now.

But what's going on, I understand that you guys at EA cant put players at a low overall rating. I know your guys hands must be tied in that regard, but ours are not.

Give us the freedom, too make a franchise player standout from a 4th line scrub in the AHL.

And if that's too hard, hire these boys from Revamped Rosters and sack that other fella.

Cheers mate, even we in New Zealand, would like too see sim hockey

[actionhank]

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I just think EA doesn't get it, making a roster isn't just about moving players around different teams or signing a player from free agency.

Its all about setting players apart from one another. I can deke through an entire team using a 60 overall player and sometimes lower, everybody's skill level is the same. And its been that way for some time now.

But what's going on, I understand that you guys at EA cant put players at a low overall rating. I know your guys hands must be tied in that regard, but ours are not.

Give us the freedom, too make a franchise player standout from a 4th line scrub in the AHL.

And if that's too hard, hire these boys from Revamped Rosters and sack that other fella.

Cheers mate, even we in New Zealand, would like too see sim hockey

That's been something that's frustrated me a lot with the series. The Show has been embracing customization for a while now. Custom slider sets, rosters, players (Their player creator is amazingly efficient. If you're curious head over to The Show's forums on this site and check the various Create a Pro threads people have going).

Even with EA's NHL, the roster sharing was never official, just a work-around that the Revamped team and others were able to capitalize on. If the NHL team really supported it, it would be great.

I've posted this type of thought a million times, but imagine being able to customize the ice texture, or create your own jerseys offline on a computer, and then import them via Xbox Live or your Playstation account. You could download them to your game, host them on the NHL team's servers and share them with everyone. A rating system would allow people to really get what they wanted, much like The Show does things.

I would love the chance to create jerseys for the international teams and edit their rosters and players to have some really accurate tournaments. Guys like the Revamped team do great work with the ratings, and really help to fine tune a game that's just too evenly matched. Rookies, veterans, franchise players, they just don't matter in the stock game, because every rating is so closely spaced. I know EA has a lot on their plate, and honestly, I think customization would help take a lot off of that plate. Keeping up with every rookie, team roster, and player in the NHL alone is a massive undertaking, let alone the AHL, juniors, and now the ECHL. Then you factor in International teams (I really hope teams like Japan and Kazakhstan aren't in any more) and you've just got a team that's either getting spread to thin to be effective on everything...or skipping out on included leagues because they're focused on the important ones. It's a lose/lose for them.

[spoofrice11]

On Creating Teams...
- Anyone know if you can do it like NBA 2K16? On there you could upload logos to a site and bring them in and edit everything on the jerseys and more. Or is this where you just select a logo that is already on NHL 17 and use it?
- Also, so will you be able to create a team and use them from the start of a Franchise, by replacing a team? Or is this like Madden where you have to play as the team you want to replace, until you can relocate which is a pain?
- Last, no mention of it, but will there be custom draft classes? (I always make prospects for games to become future stars.)

[Simple Mathematics]

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That's been something that's frustrated me a lot with the series. The Show has been embracing customization for a while now. Custom slider sets, rosters, players (Their player creator is amazingly efficient. If you're curious head over to The Show's forums on this site and check the various Create a Pro threads people have going).

Even with EA's NHL, the roster sharing was never official, just a work-around that the Revamped team and others were able to capitalize on. If the NHL team really supported it, it would be great.

I've posted this type of thought a million times, but imagine being able to customize the ice texture, or create your own jerseys offline on a computer, and then import them via Xbox Live or your Playstation account. You could download them to your game, host them on the NHL team's servers and share them with everyone. A rating system would allow people to really get what they wanted, much like The Show does things.

I would love the chance to create jerseys for the international teams and edit their rosters and players to have some really accurate tournaments. Guys like the Revamped team do great work with the ratings, and really help to fine tune a game that's just too evenly matched. Rookies, veterans, franchise players, they just don't matter in the stock game, because every rating is so closely spaced. I know EA has a lot on their plate, and honestly, I think customization would help take a lot off of that plate. Keeping up with every rookie, team roster, and player in the NHL alone is a massive undertaking, let alone the AHL, juniors, and now the ECHL. Then you factor in International teams (I really hope teams like Japan and Kazakhstan aren't in any more) and you've just got a team that's either getting spread to thin to be effective on everything...or skipping out on included leagues because they're focused on the important ones. It's a lose/lose for them.

That level of customization would be wonderful. I'd go absolutely nuts.

I work 50 hours every week and I found time to do the revamped rosters for myself this year. I think they can find some time to do it themselves.

Or, I would gladly leave my job for a position with them. The level of detail I would devote to it would be extreme. I can dream.

[ericromain]

While I agree that roster sharing is long overdue, I would be happy with same day roster/lineup updates.

[jake19ny]

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While I agree that roster sharing is long overdue, I would be happy with same day roster/lineup updates.

That's the extra salt in the wound. No roster sharing and only once a month updates (if that) that are woefully inaccurate or outdated. Not to mention horrific player separation....

[actionhank]

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That level of customization would be wonderful. I'd go absolutely nuts.

I work 50 hours every week and I found time to do the revamped rosters for myself this year. I think they can find some time to do it themselves.

Or, I would gladly leave my job for a position with them. The level of detail I would devote to it would be extreme. I can dream.

Haha, no kidding. I work 40+ hours a week as a System Admin, and am studying for the god awful MCSA exams after hours (THREE TESTS, MICROSOFT?! YOU COULDN'T JUST MAKE IT ONE!?). But I would gladly bust out Photoshop in what little free time I had to create some crisp jerseys, updated helmets, and ice rinks.

Throwing teams like Slovenia into the mix and getting some customized international ice to have a tournament on would be so much fun. Then having talented people such as yourself to create accurate rosters, and others who like to make accurate looking players, and still others who have a knack for hammering out realistic slider settings...it would be a dream come true.

[Toewsface]

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On Creating Teams...
- Anyone know if you can do it like NBA 2K16? On there you could upload logos to a site and bring them in and edit everything on the jerseys and more. Or is this where you just select a logo that is already on NHL 17 and use it?
- Also, so will you be able to create a team and use them from the start of a Franchise, by replacing a team? Or is this like Madden where you have to play as the team you want to replace, until you can relocate which is a pain?
- Last, no mention of it, but will there be custom draft classes? (I always make prospects for games to become future stars.)

NCAA Football allowed you to import custom logo designs for years via their teambuilder site.

As to custom draft classes, the closest you'll get is the ability to edit draft-eligible players in the CHL and Euro leagues. You can't import a draft class or make players that don't play in any of those leagues AFAIK.

[actionhank]

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NCAA Football allowed you to import custom logo designs for years via their teambuilder site.

As to custom draft classes, the closest you'll get is the ability to edit draft-eligible players in the CHL and Euro leagues. You can't import a draft class or make players that don't play in any of those leagues AFAIK.

I feel like I start way too many sentences this way, but it confuses me how they haven't taken advantage of things like what NCAA had. I think that was back in 2013...

Since then, nearly everyone has ready access to high speed internet, more people have access to photo editing software, and more people are interested in sharing/customizing their games. Just look at Half Life 2. That game is still being modded, and it came out in 2004.

[spoofrice11]

NCAA Football allowed you to import custom logo designs for years via their teambuilder site.

As to custom draft classes, the closest you'll get is the ability to edit draft-eligible players in the CHL and Euro leagues. You can't import a draft class or make players that don't play in any of those leagues AFAIK.

- So is it for sure that NHL 17 has it where you can upload images and not just use their default logos?
- Anyone know if you can start your franchise with these created teams, and not just have to move them during your franchise?
- It stinks that we can't make draft classes on some games, to me it's really important.
- Also, NHL still has where you can start off your Franchise Mode with a Fantasy Draft, right (it's been several years since I bought a Hockey game)?

[13whitebread]

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While I agree that roster sharing is long overdue, I would be happy with same day roster/lineup updates.

Agreed for those of us who play offline and try to emulate the season this would be very welcomed addition and save me a ton of time