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  • strawberryshortcake
    MVP
    • Sep 2009
    • 2438

    #1

    Madden NFL 17 Videos - Steelers vs. Cardinals & Patriots vs. Steelers (Kspade)

    Kspadetheprospect has posted a couple of Madden NFL 17 videos. The first one features Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Arizona Cardinals.

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    The second Madden NFL 17 video features the New England Patriots vs. Pittsburgh Steelers.

    <iframe width="620" height="349" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/pY8RNrNE_DE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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  • strawberryshortcake
    MVP
    • Sep 2009
    • 2438

    #2
    Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Steelers vs Patriots (Kspadethepros)

    Concern: Motion-shift speed burst
    Two quick concerns that I see, with the common theme being (legacy issue) players having a motion shift speed burst. One is a defensive interception speed burst. Two, a touchdown speed burst reception.

    When they mentioned they're introducing real ball physics, for whatever reason, I thought that would eliminate speed bursts to the ball. Here's hoping "true step" (whenever they get around to doing all 22 player with true step) would eliminate speed bursts in future Madden iterations.

    From what I gather, I could be wrong, PS2 Madden versions didn't really have these speed burst compensation. It is only when they transitioned to the PS3/360 version when these speed burst compensation appeared, and continues to linger into the PS4/X1 generation.












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    • msdm27
      Pro
      • Nov 2009
      • 956

      #3
      Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Steelers vs Patriots (Kspadethepros)

      ROFLLLLLLLL @ that Pylon Cam on the Wheaton TD... That was absurd!
      Typical example of doing too much. I get we get new stuff that they want to show off, but the PylonCam angle is not necessary on every single score :/

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      • DeuceDouglas
        Madden Dev Team
        • Apr 2010
        • 4297

        #4
        Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Steelers vs Patriots (Kspadethepros)

        I like a lot of the replay angles they have. The speed ramping and pylon shot choice are a little shaky at times but most of the replays I've seen have been nice but they do show a lot of the nitpicky things as well. The angle the ball comes out of Roethlisberger's hand and then one other that stuck out to me was how Bryant was looking back at the other side of the field for nearly his entire route on the one TD. Nothing big, just sticks out as odd.

        Like Strawberry showed that speed burst on receptions needs to go. I think it happens a lot on streak type catches as well it's just not nearly as noticeable. I think if they got rid of that burst it would create a lot of those just barely incomplete passes that you don't often get in Madden.
        Last edited by DeuceDouglas; 06-21-2016, 05:28 AM.

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        • JKSportsGamer1984
          MVP
          • May 2014
          • 1411

          #5
          Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
          I like a lot of the replay angles they have. The speed ramping and pylon shot choice are a little shaky at times but most of the replays I've seen have been nice but they do show a lot of the nitpicky things as well. The angle the ball comes out of Roethlisberger's hand and then one other that stuck out to me was how Bryant was looking back at the other side of the field for nearly his entire route on the one TD. Nothing big, just sticks out as odd.

          Like Strawberry showed that speed burst on receptions needs to go. I think it happens a lot on streak type catches as well it's just not nearly as noticeable. I think if they got rid of that burst it would create a lot of those just barely incomplete passes that you don't often get in Madden.
          Agreed. I'm also seeing a lot of suction tackles in other vids I've watched. I really hope they clean that stuff up because we should be past having to deal that by now.

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          • BleedGreen710
            Eagles Fan
            • Oct 2012
            • 4025

            #6
            Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Steelers vs Patriots (Kspadethepros)

            Originally posted by msdm27
            ROFLLLLLLLL @ that Pylon Cam on the Wheaton TD... That was absurd!
            Typical example of doing too much. I get we get new stuff that they want to show off, but the PylonCam angle is not necessary on every single score :/
            agreed. seems the pylon cam is either a big hit or a big miss. it should only be used on close goaline plays - not plays when the runner just runs across the goaline.

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            • 4thQtrStre5S
              MVP
              • Nov 2013
              • 3051

              #7
              Re: Madden NFL 17 Videos - Steelers vs. Cardinals &amp; Patriots vs. Steelers (Kspade)

              That INT clip looked like a user INT, and it appears to be the way experienced users bait the QB to throw to a spot so the user can INT it.

              The WR speed burst for a TD I do not recall seeing; at least not to where I have noticed, but I don't recall everything from Madden; I would like a better understanding of why this speed burst would be present and why in the clip it only effects the WR; as I do recall seeing DB's jump routes in what looks like a speed burst.. Generally I see WR's wait for passes to come to them while the DB charges towards the ball.
              Last edited by 4thQtrStre5S; 06-21-2016, 09:06 PM.

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              • DeuceDouglas
                Madden Dev Team
                • Apr 2010
                • 4297

                #8
                Re: Madden NFL 17 Videos - Steelers vs. Cardinals &amp; Patriots vs. Steelers (Kspade)

                Second video, 1:17. Game is still treating injury timeouts as full clock stoppages which shouldn't be the case. Clock should resume as soon as the player is off the field or basically as soon as the playcall screen pops up. This has been an issue the last few years.

                From the NFL rulebook:

                At the conclusion of an injury timeout, the game clock will start as if the injury timeout had not occurred. If either team takes, or
                is charged with, a timeout, the clock will start on the snap.

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                • Cowboy008
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 4574

                  #9
                  Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Steelers vs Patriots (Kspadethepros)

                  Originally posted by msdm27
                  ROFLLLLLLLL @ that Pylon Cam on the Wheaton TD... That was absurd!
                  Typical example of doing too much. I get we get new stuff that they want to show off, but the PylonCam angle is not necessary on every single score :/
                  Yeah they should only show the Pylon Cam on close plays at the goal line.

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                  • CujoMatty
                    Member of Rush Nation
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 5441

                    #10
                    5 seconds into the first video and I have to ask, did Mike Tomlin get breast implants? lol
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                    • cooper417
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 174

                      #11
                      Re: Madden NFL 17 Videos - Steelers vs. Cardinals &amp; Patriots vs. Steelers (Kspade)

                      Originally posted by 4thQtrStre5S
                      The WR speed burst for a TD I do not recall seeing; at least not to where I have noticed, but I don't recall everything from Madden; I would like a better understanding of why this speed burst would be present and why in the clip it only effects the WR; as I do recall seeing DB's jump routes in what looks like a speed burst.. Generally I see WR's wait for passes to come to them while the DB charges towards the ball.
                      Yeah that warp to catch was something that stuck out to me in watching the clips. It has to do with an animation trigger- so the wr gets a "speed burst" to shoot ahead of the DB for the TD catch.
                      Same thing is happening with warp tackles- the defender is triggered into a tackle and gets a speed burst to the ball carrier.

                      I'd like to see these animation speed warps removed from the game. It was in M16 as well.

                      Not trying to hate on the game before i play it, but stuff like this needs to be fixed.

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