Is It An EA Thing? Let's Talk Team Specific Playing Styles And Signatures

[SeaTownGamer]

I played all EA Sports games throughout the years and it seems like all the teams play like one another when going against the CPU. Imagine playing story mode in a video game and all the bosses have the same moves, same A.I. and you know how they are going to attack/defend you? That is how I feel when I play against CPU in Madden. It's also the same thing on FIFA, NHL, and NBA LIVE where all the teams play like each other. This is why I am starting to think this is an EA thing and not just Madden.

Is this hard to fix or is it because the developers don't know too much about the teams? Signature team "play style" is a feature we wanted for years in every EA Sports titles including Madden and we are yet to have it.

Please don't take this as a knock EA and I know how sensitive some Mods can be when we mention EA a certain way so I am not going to go that route. I just want to read people's opinion on this and hopefully someone can relay the message to the boys at EA/Tiburon on how to improve our experience when playing against CPU.

[roadman]

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I know I didn't feel that way at all with Madden 16.

With a few slider adjustments in the penalty area and other areas, the games felt like their counter parts.

Out of the box, I would agree with you.

[mrprice33]

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It is something we're continuing to press them on. Live was a little bit better for 16 but not quite there yet. I'd say the same about 17 from my time with it through EA Play.

[jmurphy31]

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It is something we're continuing to press them on. Live was a little bit better for 16 but not quite there yet. I'd say the same about 17 from my time with it through EA Play.

Mr Price, in 17 do teams at least try and use their star players. Like do the Cowboys throw towards Dez more than the other WRs. Do the Vikings run AP more than pass?. Stuff like that.

[therealsmallville]

Is It An EA Thing? Let's Talk Team Specific Playing Styles And Signatures

I think what makes this difficult is the passage of time in-franchise. The Patriots throw way more than they run, but what happens when Tom Brady retires in real life? How about when Belichick retires (he's not even in the game)? It's very possible they will become a more multi-dimensional team. But in Madden, if the Pats were programmed to select more passing plays than running plays, by year 4 it could look pretty weird depending on who's on their roster. If that makes sense.

I'd LOVE for teams to play more like their counterparts...I'm just not sure how you program that sort of thing for some teams.


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[vannwolfhawk]

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I played all EA Sports games throughout the years and it seems like all the teams play like one another when going against the CPU. Imagine playing story mode in a video game and all the bosses have the same moves, same A.I. and you know how they are going to attack/defend you? That is how I feel when I play against CPU in Madden. It's also the same thing on FIFA, NHL, and NBA LIVE where all the teams play like each other. This is why I am starting to think this is an EA thing and not just Madden.

Is this hard to fix or is it because the developers don't know too much about the teams? Signature team "play style" is a feature we wanted for years in every EA Sports titles including Madden and we are yet to have it.

Please don't take this as a knock to EA and I know how sensitive some Mods can be when we mention EA a certain way so I am not going to go that route. I just want to read people's opinion on this and hopefully someone can relay the message to the boys at EA/Tiburon on how to improve our experience when playing against CPU.

Dead on! Check out this thread about teams playbooks.

http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/851850-madden-2016-team-specific-playbooks-everything-playbooks.html

It is fixable but a lot of work. Editing playbooks and most importantly situational star ratings in categories is the key to get teams to play more true to how they do irl. It also makes the CPU extremely fun and tough to play against. It's crazy they can fix this easily by what they already have in their game but it go's untouched. You see games like nba2k with real playbooks and a guy (da czar and OG) specifically working on real plays and playbooks for authenticity. EA is way behind in this area. I'm just really hoping we can set CPU teams with edited playbooks this year and share some playbooks that work this year!

As far as players playing like themselves EA is again way behind. No signature moves, etc but again editing ratings you can get guys to play more true to life with more spread out ratings.

Hopefully this is a focus moving forward!

[jfsolo]

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Yep, wish they had a team member whose only job was to deal with plays, playbooks, and play calling. There's totally enough work to do for that person to be busy 24/7.

[mrprice33]

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Mr Price, in 17 do teams at least try and use their star players. Like do the Cowboys throw towards Dez more than the other WRs. Do the Vikings run AP more than pass?. Stuff like that.

Too early to tell. Need lots of data samples to account for game situation, etc


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[mrprice33]

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Yep, wish they had a team member whose only job was to deal with plays, playbooks, and play calling. There's totally enough work to do for that person to be busy 24/7.

You'd probably need like 10 people lol. I've done some very light tracking of this stuff and there's so much data it's incomprehensible.


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[vannwolfhawk]

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You'd probably need like 10 people lol. I've done some very light tracking of this stuff and there's so much data it's incomprehensible.


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It's not that hard... At least give teams the right run to pass ratios, feed star players, use go to formations or sets more often. That's easy stuff to do... The guys on here created some pretty good stuff to get teams playing pretty realistic with plays they have in the game. It's not perfect but 100x better and more realistic seeing teams play more true to life. I'm not sure EA cares as much about the user vs CPU experience?! It's more for the online user vs user crowd IMO...

[mrprice33]

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It's not that hard... At least give teams the right run to pass ratios, feed star players, use go to formations or sets more often. That's easy stuff to do... The guys on here created some pretty good stuff to get teams playing pretty realistic with plays they have in the game. It's not perfect but 100x better and more realistic seeing teams play more true to life. I'm not sure EA cares as much about the user vs CPU experience?! It's more for the online user vs user crowd IMO...

QP said plays, playbooks, and playcalling. That's a pretty massive job.

[vannwolfhawk]

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QP said plays, playbooks, and playcalling. That's a pretty massive job.

1 guy, 1 job, 365 days in a year, 8-10 hours in a work day. Id say pretty doable if it was a priority to them. Nba2k as a reference...

[SpaceBoyXVII]

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I know I didn't feel that way at all with Madden 16.

With a few slider adjustments in the penalty area and other areas, the games felt like their counter parts.

Out of the box, I would agree with you.

Not to derail the topic, but do you mind PM me your set up? Used your sliders for last gen 15 and now have a PS4 and trying to adjust. Thanks!

[Datninja619]

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Remember when everyone was amazed when Peyton Manning acted like Peyton Manning in Madden. Using the whole play clock to hike the ball, making Omaha calls, and what not.

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[Jr.]

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1 guy, 1 job, 365 days in a year, 8-10 hours in a work day. Id say pretty doable if it was a priority to them. Nba2k as a reference...

Who works 8-10 hours per day every day of the year?