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  • BlackBetty15
    MVP
    • Sep 2010
    • 1548

    #31
    Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Carolina Panthers vs. Seattle Seahawks (cookieboy17)

    I would like to see the pocket collapse a little more. 5-10 secs it seemed on average which allows anyone in the nfl to get open. Great video though
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    • SolidSquid
      MVP
      • Aug 2014
      • 3159

      #32
      Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Carolina Panthers vs. Seattle Seahawks (cookieboy17)

      Originally posted by BlackBetty15
      I would like to see the pocket collapse a little more. 5-10 secs it seemed on average which allows anyone in the nfl to get open. Great video though
      I think we need to get a true organic pocket before we see one collapse

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      • jpdavis82
        All Star
        • Sep 2005
        • 8795

        #33
        Madden NFL 17 Video - Carolina Panthers vs. Seattle Seahawks (cookieboy17)

        Originally posted by BlackBetty15
        I would like to see the pocket collapse a little more. 5-10 secs it seemed on average which allows anyone in the nfl to get open. Great video though


        I'll be interested to see how this changes in the final build with the pass rush bugs fixed. Rex said it's supposed to be 3-4 seconds this year.


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        • OhMrHanky
          MVP
          • Aug 2012
          • 1898

          #34
          Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Carolina Panthers vs. Seattle Seahawks (cookieboy17)

          Originally posted by SolidSquid
          Same. I've seen Jason Witten do a goofy dance and spike the ball and it made me cringe. That's not the kinda player Witten is, it all goes back to player likeness and immersion. If I score with Barry Sanders I don't expect him to do backflips I expect him to hand the ref the ball.


          Yeah, they need to have tiers of celebration. Tier 1 is Barry sanders, only/always hands ball to ref. Tier 2 is only spiking for players like whitten. Tier 3 is get down witcha bad self for Deion, Terrell Owens, etc.


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          • SolidSquid
            MVP
            • Aug 2014
            • 3159

            #35
            Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Carolina Panthers vs. Seattle Seahawks (cookieboy17)

            Originally posted by OhMrHanky
            Yeah, they need to have tiers of celebration. Tier 1 is Barry sanders, only/always hands ball to ref. Tier 2 is only spiking for players like whitten. Tier 3 is get down witcha bad self for Deion, Terrell Owens, etc.


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            As silly as it was I thought this is what the "swagger" rating was for. NBA 2k has an emotion rating 0 being the stoic guys like Rose and Lillard and 100 being the overtop guys like ??? I don't really know.

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            • wordtobigbird
              MVP
              • Sep 2008
              • 4385

              #36
              Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Carolina Panthers vs. Seattle Seahawks (cookieboy17)

              Originally posted by jpdavis82
              I'll be interested to see how this changes in the final build with the pass rush bugs fixed. Rex said it's supposed to be 3-4 seconds this year.


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              Are there tweets about this bug? Most disappointing thing in these videos is there is still noooooooooo realistic pressure/pocket whatsoever. Anyone can pass on improved zones with 5+ sec

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              • jpdavis82
                All Star
                • Sep 2005
                • 8795

                #37
                Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Carolina Panthers vs. Seattle Seahawks (cookieboy17)

                Originally posted by wordtobigbird
                Are there tweets about this bug? Most disappointing thing in these videos is there is still noooooooooo realistic pressure/pocket whatsoever. Anyone can pass on improved zones with 5+ sec


                Yes and Rex mentioned it on Sim Standard radio Thursday night.


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                • LBzrule
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 13085

                  #38
                  Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Carolina Panthers vs. Seattle Seahawks (cookieboy17)

                  Originally posted by jpdavis82
                  I'll be interested to see how this changes in the final build with the pass rush bugs fixed. Rex said it's supposed to be 3-4 seconds this year.


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                  Without playing it I don't like the sounds of this. I really don't want 3-4 seconds to be a norm. The four man pass rush for every team should not be getting to the QB in 3-4 seconds. And the 3 man rush shouldn't be getting there with a great degree of success either. We need more nuance and less norm. 3 and 4 man Pass rush should always be personnel and match up dependent. So numbers like 3-4 seconds I would hope would never serve as a norm.

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                  • Americas Team
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 1282

                    #39
                    Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Carolina Panthers vs. Seattle Seahawks (cookieboy17)

                    Originally posted by LBzrule
                    Without playing it I don't like the sounds of this. I really don't want 3-4 seconds to be a norm. The four man pass rush for every team should not be getting to the QB in 3-4 seconds. And the 3 man rush shouldn't be getting there with a great degree of success either. We need more nuance and less norm. 3 and 4 man Pass rush should always be personnel and match up dependent. So numbers like 3-4 seconds I would hope would never serve as a norm.
                    I agree with you but with how simplistic the blocking system is I think the only thing they can do is tune how how long blocks are held.
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                    • BezO
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 4414

                      #40
                      Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Carolina Panthers vs. Seattle Seahawks (cookieboy17)

                      Originally posted by jpdavis82
                      I'll be interested to see how this changes in the final build with the pass rush bugs fixed. Rex said it's supposed to be 3-4 seconds this year.


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                      Bug = ratings/slider fix or are we talking animations that are not triggering? D-linemen simply breaking blocks quicker is not what many of us are looking for.
                      Shout out to The Watcher! Where you at bruh?

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                      • aholbert32
                        (aka Alberto)
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 33106

                        #41
                        Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Carolina Panthers vs. Seattle Seahawks (cookieboy17)

                        Originally posted by SolidSquid
                        Same. I've seen Jason Witten do a goofy dance and spike the ball and it made me cringe. That's not the kinda player Witten is, it all goes back to player likeness and immersion. If I score with Barry Sanders I don't expect him to do backflips I expect him to hand the ref the ball.
                        I would love to see some sort of personality option like they have in NBA 2k. Players like Witten dont dance.

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                        • mrprice33
                          Just some guy
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 5986

                          #42
                          Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Carolina Panthers vs. Seattle Seahawks (cookieboy17)

                          They have it for coaches now. Only a matter of time, I'd think.

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                          • davep
                            Pro
                            • May 2003
                            • 892

                            #43
                            Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Carolina Panthers vs. Seattle Seahawks (cookieboy17)

                            If it wasn't for the different commentary team I couldn't distinguish these 17 videos from last year's.

                            I'll probably just stick with 16 this year.

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                            • SolidSquid
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 3159

                              #44
                              Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Carolina Panthers vs. Seattle Seahawks (cookieboy17)

                              Originally posted by davep
                              If it wasn't for the different commentary team I couldn't distinguish these 17 videos from last year's.

                              I'll probably just stick with 16 this year.
                              Graphically I think we are maxed out. We aren't gonna see the big jumps anymore that we saw going from ps to ps2 or ps2 to PS3 and that's fine. However graphics also include things like player equipment which clearly received its first upgrade in a long time.

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                              • davep
                                Pro
                                • May 2003
                                • 892

                                #45
                                Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Carolina Panthers vs. Seattle Seahawks (cookieboy17)

                                Not just the graphics...gameplay and everything. I'd be curious if you put up 17 videos next to 16 videos if anyone could tell the difference...I really doubt it.

                                I liked 16 but they're not giving me a reason to buy 17.

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