SCEA Bans Many Players for Using Exploits in MLB The Show 16

[oski96]

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I'm listening to Pitching Rebel's segment of the Ban Tapes now. I don't know how many stubs he is accused of gaining from the exploit, but the information he provides is somewhat vague. How many of the transactions were closer to 8,200? If 20 were for 8,000 that's 160,000. That's not chump change to me.

Now if I would do an exploit like this, I would spread out the transactions. Make a couple of small bids so later I could say 'why would I even do that?' I would think that the huge transactions would be an instant red flag. Instead, I would flood these bogus transactions with thousands of legit ones, using both the console market and the mobile market equally. Make it look like an accident, as they say. And if you ever do get caught, you'll probably get away with a slap on the wrist.

But I would never do something like that.

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lol. Do you know how stupid that sounds?

Yeah,"I'm going to to hide these few cheating transactions by making thousands of legitimate ones that end up making 1000x more stubs than the cheat to begin with."

"Since I assume that I will be caught, I will make sure to plan this out real good so that I can explain it away later and get my permanent ban overturned."

Solid.

[NYGiants4Natic]

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lol. Do you know how stupid that sounds?

Yeah,"I'm going to to hide these few cheating transactions by making thousands of legitimate ones that end up making 1000x more stubs than the cheat to begin with."

"Since I assume that I will be caught, I will make sure to plan this out real good so that I can explain it away later and get my permanent ban overturned."

Solid.

You sure are working over time defending the banned folks....HAHAHA

Until they are proven innocent they are cheaters PERIOD

[HeavySaucer]

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lol. Do you know how stupid that sounds?

Yeah,"I'm going to to hide these few cheating transactions by making thousands of legitimate ones that end up making 1000x more stubs than the cheat to begin with."

"Since I assume that I will be caught, I will make sure to plan this out real good so that I can explain it away later and get my permanent ban overturned."

Solid.

I heard one guy was accused of stealing 30 million stubs. What is 30 million times 1,000? Yup, sounds pretty ridiculous to me as well.

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[kehlis]

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I think everyone needs to take a deep breath and step back from this thread for the time being until things are sorted out.

[Tatze]

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I read the podcast. Yes, i have also 600 Sites Transactions. And yes, it is possible to have 2 Millionen Stubbs or more without put real money in the game for stubbs and without cheating!!! I Think this is the reasion, why i was banned and it makes no sense to ask Ramone or?

[Tatze]

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What is card flipping? Excessive use the marktplace?

[redsox4evur]

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What is card flipping? Excessive use the marktplace?

No. It's buying a card to sell it. So you think Mike Saunders is going to be upgraded this week you buy him even though you don't have a need for him. But you are going to sell him for more stubs. You've most definitely been doing it if you have those transactions and stubs. You didn't get banned for that, as Sony has said on the TSN forums.


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[WaitTilNextYear]

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you are letting your self defined moral compass pull you in the weeds, get off the who is right and who is wrong here. The man is suppressing someone next time it could be you, as consumers everyone should come together and expect more transparency and corporate responsibility than is being shown. They do have a monopoly on the market after all...

It has nothing to do with a moral compass. I am just trying to weigh the substance of the arguments for and against and there isn't a lot of substance to weigh right now. Just a lot of outrage on one side and not a lot of communication on the other.

A lot of people are making hypotheticals (like your hypothetical about what if I got banned) and weak arguments based on bad/biased/no data, but when the arguments get debunked by people playing devil's advocate (like me), people are reacting emotionally and making it into a personal attack. Like I said before I don't really care if you or someone else got banned or not. I just hope for the mystery to be solved at some point. Like I said before, my interest is in the unraveling of that mystery and checking the assumptions/wild speculations that people are making to see if they can withstand scrutiny.

I also don't equate a tiny dev studio like SDS to the man. Some of these comparisons are just plain overboard.

[baseballsim]

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Pretty sure Tatze was being facetious but it certainly seems like excessive activity may have been a contributing factor in some cases.

[oski96]

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I heard one guy was accused of stealing 30 million stubs. What is 30 million times 1,000? Yup, sounds pretty ridiculous to me as well.

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Yes it does. If you had read my previous posts you would see that I believe that guy was cheating.

What about a guy who makes over 5 million in the market, but only makes about 10k "exploiting" the cheat?

I'm sure you have a strong opinion on that one.

[ubernoob]

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Yes it does. If you had read my previous posts you would see that I believe that guy was cheating.

What about a guy who makes over 5 million in the market, but only makes about 10k "exploiting" the cheat?

I'm sure you have a strong opinion on that one.

If they knowingly did the exploit, then yes.

[oski96]

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You sure are working over time defending the banned folks....HAHAHA

Until they are proven innocent they are cheaters PERIOD

I haven't done any "defending" because I don't know the facts - and neither do you. I am asking for answers and speculating with others based on their stated experiences.

SDS has not explained the exploit and their so-called methodology for detecting the "cheaters." So, without knowing any of the individual facts or the method for detection on a system that has been riddled with bugs from developers that first stated they are 100% sure, but have since stated they are looking at it again - you are sitting here calling people "cheaters" as if there is anything more to it than the fact it just provides you perverse pleasure to do so.

It seems to me that you are the one that is overdoing it.

[oski96]

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If they knowingly did the exploit, then yes.

Correct. Yes, if they knowingly did the exploit.

And, if you look at the transactions, it should be fairly obvious as to whether the glitch was triggered intentionally or accidentally because the nature of the orders would be significantly different.

For example the pitching guy (rated number 1) some of this offending transactions were for only a few hundred stubs. His entire list of transactions is more than 10,000.00 for millions of stubs.

If you can't see the difference between that and someone that just cleared, re-loaded, cleared, re-loaded, cleared, etc. a bunch of over market bids - I would suggest you wouldn't make for a competent detective.

[Steven78]

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Pretty much waiting on SDS at this point. This is going nowhere until then.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Pretty much waiting on SDS at this point. This is going nowhere until then.

The longer they take, though, the messier this gets. They'll need to either double down on their initial stance or figure out what they did wrong and how to backtrack pretty soon I'd imagine.