Jim Brown Receives $600K Settlement Against EA

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  • aholbert32
    (aka Alberto)
    • Jul 2002
    • 33106

    #106
    Re: Jim Brown Receives $600K Settlement Against EA

    Originally posted by baconbits11
    My posts weren't about just facts and weren't representative of that, just opinion like most others in this thread. I am speculating on why Mr Brown sued and why other players wouldn't have the right to do the same. So if someone could explain:

    Why wouldn't every player have the right to sue?

    Why wouldn't they be able to get 600K?

    Is it because they don't have Mr Brown's stature? Because he's a HOF?

    Am I wrong in believing that EA could absorb even 1/6th of a $600 million judgment? ($100 million)

    Every player wouldnt have the right to sue. Current players are covered under the NFLPA license with EA so they have no grounds to sue. Only players who were on the classic rosters AND EA did not acquire their likeness rights would be eligible to sue.

    Brown got 600k because EA used his likeness rights without permission AND after EA was specifically told by Brown that he did not want them to use his likeness. The intentional use of his likeness without permission is the main reason the settlement was as high as it was.

    Another thing that plays into it is Brown's fame and status as a HOF. His likeness is worth more than most players in the game. Thats why the settlement was higher.

    EA could absorb the cost of the entire 600 million settlement judgment. They generate more than that each year.

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    • mrprice33
      Just some guy
      • Jul 2003
      • 5986

      #107
      Re: Jim Brown Receives $600K Settlement Against EA

      Originally posted by baconbits11
      My posts weren't about just facts and weren't representative of that, just opinion like most others in this thread. I am speculating on why Mr Brown sued and why other players wouldn't have the right to do the same. So if someone could explain:

      Why wouldn't every player have the right to sue?

      Why wouldn't they be able to get 600K?

      Is it because they don't have Mr Brown's stature? Because he's a HOF?

      Here's a fact: As of 2016, 303 individuals have been elected. Let's say only 100 of them sued. You would think they would all be eligible for the same compensation as Mr. Brown. Here's another fact: 100 x $600K = $60 million.

      So there's your facts.

      Am I wrong in believing that a $60 million judgment wouldn't affect EA? If so, then why all the layoffs over the years?

      And then you go on to say that a $600 million judgment wouldn't shut EA down. I don't know many companies that could survive that, it would mean layoffs and be big news for sure.
      EA ASKED HIM FOR HIS PERMISSION AND HE SAID NO AND THEY DID IT ANYWAY!!!

      IT'S A ONE-OFF THING! OTHER PLAYERS AGREED TO HAVE THEIR LIKENESSES USED AND WERE ALREADY COMPENSATED!!! ARE YOU TRYING TO BE THIS OBTUSE???!

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      • baconbits11
        MVP
        • Oct 2014
        • 2629

        #108
        Re: Jim Brown Receives $600K Settlement Against EA

        Originally posted by mrprice33
        EA ASKED HIM FOR HIS PERMISSION AND HE SAID NO AND THEY DID IT ANYWAY!!!

        IT'S A ONE-OFF THING! OTHER PLAYERS AGREED TO HAVE THEIR LIKENESSES USED AND WERE ALREADY COMPENSATED!!! ARE YOU TRYING TO BE THIS OBTUSE???!
        I don't see anything in this thread or a link, stating that all the other 1,000 players were already compensated or asked for their likenesses. There is no reason to be personally insulting and yell. I guess you feel you can do as you please because you have "EA Game Changer" by your name and you have a podcast. I'm stating an opinion on Mr Brown's actions and having a respectful discussion on what could happen, if you disagree fine, but personal attacks are against TOS.

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        • aholbert32
          (aka Alberto)
          • Jul 2002
          • 33106

          #109
          Re: Jim Brown Receives $600K Settlement Against EA

          Originally posted by baconbits11
          I don't see anything in this thread or a link, stating that all the other 1,000 players were already compensated or asked for their likenesses. There is no reason to be personally insulting and yell. I guess you feel you can do as you please because you have "EA Game Changer" by your name and you have a podcast. I'm stating an opinion, if you disagree fine, but personal attacks are against TOS.
          You can assume that some were given that EA approached Brown and offered him money (He wasnt the only one) and that no other players have joined Brown's suit, filed separate suits or filed a class action.

          Even if they didnt approach the other 1000 players, they all wouldnt receive 600k settlements or likely anything close.

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          • mrprice33
            Just some guy
            • Jul 2003
            • 5986

            #110
            Re: Jim Brown Receives $600K Settlement Against EA

            Asking you if you're trying to be obtuse is a personal attack?

            Okay man.

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            • aholbert32
              (aka Alberto)
              • Jul 2002
              • 33106

              #111
              Re: Jim Brown Receives $600K Settlement Against EA

              Originally posted by mrprice33
              Asking you if you're trying to be obtuse is a personal attack?

              Okay man.
              I dont think he's being obtuse. I think he just doesnt understand the law.

              His mistake is instead of asking questions, he made a bunch of statements that arent supported by the law or the facts in this case.

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              • mrprice33
                Just some guy
                • Jul 2003
                • 5986

                #112
                Re: Jim Brown Receives $600K Settlement Against EA

                Originally posted by aholbert32
                You can assume that some were given that EA approached Brown and offered him money (He wasnt the only one) and that no other players have joined Brown's suit, filed separate suits or filed a class action.

                Even if they didnt approach the other 1000 players, they all wouldnt receive 600k settlements or likely anything close.
                Right. Any lawyer worth anything would go out and try to find as many players as possible and make it a large-scale class action.

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                • baconbits11
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 2629

                  #113
                  Re: Jim Brown Receives $600K Settlement Against EA

                  Originally posted by mrprice33
                  Asking you if you're trying to be obtuse is a personal attack?

                  Okay man.
                  OBTUSE
                  [əbˈt(y)o͞os, äbˈt(y)o͞os]

                  ADJECTIVE

                  1. annoyingly insensitive or slow to understand:
                    "he wondered if the doctor was being deliberately obtuse"
                    synonyms: stupid · slow-witted · slow · dull-witted · unintelligent · [more]
                  Basically calling me stupid and unintelligent is a personal attack. Then you continue to troll. Your violation of TOS is uncalled for and not worthy of further response. Hopefully someone responsible for monitoring these attacks will do something as your status of "Game Changer" should not elevate you above the rights of others on this board or punishment of someone else who would do the same.
                  Last edited by baconbits11; 07-01-2016, 01:14 PM.

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                  • Big FN Deal
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 5993

                    #114
                    Re: Jim Brown Receives $600K Settlement Against EA

                    I'm reminded of glass homes and stones, like I referred to earlier, what about your personal attack on Jim Brown "being a jerk", is that supposed to be within the TOS because he isn't an OS member? I wonder what it is that makes you seem to acknowledge that this discussion or any discussions on OS should have some manner of respect regardless of anyone's opinion when it pertains to you but you didn't extend that same courtesy to Jim Brown.

                    "Check yo self before you wreck yo self"-O'Shea Jackson

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                    • baconbits11
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 2629

                      #115
                      Re: Jim Brown Receives $600K Settlement Against EA

                      Originally posted by Big FN Deal
                      I'm reminded of glass homes and stones, like I referred to earlier, what about your personal attack on Jim Brown "being a jerk", is that supposed to be within the TOS because he isn't an OS member? I wonder what it is that makes you seem to acknowledge that this discussion or any discussions on OS should have some manner of respect regardless of anyone's opinion when it pertains to you but you didn't extend that same courtesy to Jim Brown.

                      "Check yo self before you wreck yo self"-O'Shea Jackson
                      Mr. Brown is a public celebrity, I'm entitled to my opinion of him, as have many others on this board expressed likewise. If he were a member and poster of OS that would be another situation and I would be expected to treat him differently. If he wants to come on here and express his displeasure, I would be subject to those rules. Your argument is baseless.

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                      • MajorSupreme
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 1559

                        #116
                        Re: Jim Brown Receives $600K Settlement Against EA

                        Originally posted by Big FN Deal
                        I'm reminded of glass homes and stones, like I referred to earlier, what about your personal attack on Jim Brown "being a jerk", is that supposed to be within the TOS because he isn't an OS member? I wonder what it is that makes you seem to acknowledge that this discussion or any discussions on OS should have some manner of respect regardless of anyone's opinion when it pertains to you but you didn't extend that same courtesy to Jim Brown.

                        "Check yo self before you wreck yo self"-O'Shea Jackson
                        Two wrongs don't make a right.

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                        • Big FN Deal
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 5993

                          #117
                          Re: Jim Brown Receives $600K Settlement Against EA

                          Originally posted by MajorSupreme
                          Two wrongs don't make a right.
                          Definitely not but that poster doesn't seem to even realize their "wrong". They should extend the same respect to any individual being discussed as they expect to receive in the discussion.

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