The Golf Club 2 Announced - Teaser Trailer & Some Features Revealed

[DivotMaker]

Re: The Golf Club 2 Announced - Teaser Trailer & Some Features Revealed

The "new game" should really be called Golf Club 1.5

So much of what is being talked about should have been in the long overdue updates to the existing game they promised over half a year ago and never materialized.

Mostly a money grab. :-(

Wow....just wow....

[AnthonyKyne]

Re: The Golf Club 2 Announced - Teaser Trailer & Some Features Revealed

The "new game" should really be called Golf Club 1.5

So much of what is being talked about should have been in the long overdue updates to the existing game they promised over half a year ago and never materialized.

Mostly a money grab. :-(

Please explain. The game we released in September 2014, was the game! That was a 7/8 out of 10 game to reviewers. We've improved on that Base with 14 months of free updates and an optional collectors mode DLC.

So 3 years after the original release we will release a second game. This time with the help of a publisher giving us the ability to sink funds into player editing, a complete new set of motion captures, societies, more dynamic swing mechanics.

We haven't done the yearly minimal upgrade, we've waited 3 years and invested heavily to give a hugely noticeable difference. On top of that we've given away 14months of free updates on an already good game.

How often do you go to work for free just to improve what you're doing for your boss?
The community is our boss and we want to make sure we can give the best experience financially possible.

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[jfsolo]

Re: The Golf Club 2 Announced - Teaser Trailer & Some Features Revealed

Please explain. The game we released in September 2014, was the game! That was a 7/8 out of 10 game to reviewers. We've improved on that Base with 14 months of free updates and an optional collectors mode DLC.

So 3 years after the original release we will release a second game. This time with the help of a publisher giving us the ability to sink funds into player editing, a complete new set of motion captures, societies, more dynamic swing mechanics.

We haven't done the yearly minimal upgrade, we've waited 3 years and invested heavily to give a hugely noticeable difference. On top of that we've given away 14months of free updates on an already good game.

How often do you go to work for free just to improve what you're doing for your boss?
The community is our boss and we want to make sure we can give the best experience financially possible.

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No, no, no don't engage, you'll just encourage more irrational statements from others of that ilk.

[OnlookerDelay]

Re: The Golf Club 2 Announced - Teaser Trailer & Some Features Revealed

The "new game" should really be called Golf Club 1.5

So much of what is being talked about should have been in the long overdue updates to the existing game they promised over half a year ago and never materialized.

Mostly a money grab. :-(

Wow... seriously!? A new game engine, a new swing interface requiring a tempo component, customizable golfers, clubs and balls, user created clubs (societies) with custom competitions, custom camera configurations, other people/players out on the course during your round, likely blended 3-D grass transitions between fairway/first cut, first cut/rough, rough/heavy rough, green/fringe, fringe/fairway... and that's only worth the designation of 1.5??

IMO, what they're proposing with TGC 2 is the biggest leap over a forerunner I've ever seen in a computer or video golf game. I can't recall a game developer offering the level of updates HBS has put out over the last two years for TGC. Yes, we haven't had but one in the last seven months, but for a year and a half we've had an unprecedented number of updates for this game.

[scagwi]

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...what they're proposing with TGC 2....

First of all that's all they're really doing right now is proposing stuff, as it's all so far away.

You are sure giving a lot of credit for stuff they have not yet delivered to a company that stopped doing updates on the first game well short of many features being finished or rolled out of all...


Lots of us on the first game still wanted a lot more updates and fixes.

[scagwi]

Re: The Golf Club 2 Announced - Teaser Trailer & Some Features Revealed

Please explain. The game we released in September 2014, was the game! That was a 7/8 out of 10 game to reviewers. We've improved on that Base with 14 months of free updates and an optional collectors mode DLC.

So 3 years after the original release we will release a second game. This time with the help of a publisher giving us the ability to sink funds into player editing, a complete new set of motion captures, societies, more dynamic swing mechanics.

We haven't done the yearly minimal upgrade, we've waited 3 years and invested heavily to give a hugely noticeable difference. On top of that we've given away 14months of free updates on an already good game.

How often do you go to work for free just to improve what you're doing for your boss?
The community is our boss and we want to make sure we can give the best experience financially possible.

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The DLC "mode" was sort of half baked, and I think you know it (your own forums seem to prove it on that)

I'm glad that "community is your boss", as they have plenty of good ideas, no question

Hopefully TGCv2 can be all that is promised, as I know many were let down by what the final features ended up being on version 1

[OnlookerDelay]

Re: The Golf Club 2 Announced - Teaser Trailer & Some Features Revealed

First of all that's all they're really doing right now is proposing stuff, as it's all so far away.

You are sure giving a lot of credit for stuff they have not yet delivered to a company that stopped doing updates on the first game well short of many features being finished or rolled out of all...


Lots of us on the first game still wanted a lot more updates and fixes.

They seemed to address most of the things they said they'd address in TGC 1. The only one they didn't get to that was a biggy for me was the reverse angle landing camera option that was strongly hinted at as a possibility in the first half year or so of existence. I guess they could have rolled some of what they're doing with TGC 2 into the current game, but honestly, I'd rather see them direct their energy at an updated game engine and a new swing interface.

I've seen enough evidence to suggest to me that HBS will deliver on what they've announced. They haven't 100% committed to the blended grass type transitions yet because they don't know for certain that they can do it within the context of their engine. I hope they can because it will be a major coup if they do... the course will look more like an environment than a map.

[scagwi]

Re: The Golf Club 2 Announced - Teaser Trailer & Some Features Revealed

They seemed to address most of the things they said they'd address in TGC 1. The only one they didn't get to that was a biggy for me was the reverse angle landing camera option that was strongly hinted at as a possibility in the first half year or so of existence. I guess they could have rolled some of what they're doing with TGC 2 into the current game, but honestly, I'd rather see them direct their energy at an updated game engine and a new swing interface.

I've seen enough evidence to suggest to me that HBS will deliver on what they've announced. They haven't 100% committed to the blended grass type transitions yet because they don't know for certain that they can do it within the context of their engine. I hope they can because it will be a major coup if they do... the course will look more like an environment than a map.

Better grass transitions would indeed be nice.

[countryboy]

Re: The Golf Club 2 Announced - Teaser Trailer & Some Features Revealed

Anthony...

Any chance you guys implement the 3 click meter swing system?

[goillini03]

Re: The Golf Club 2 Announced - Teaser Trailer & Some Features Revealed

I grabbed the first game, and I will probably be picking up this one too. Maybe this time I can get a few friends to get it!


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[OnlookerDelay]

Re: The Golf Club 2 Announced - Teaser Trailer & Some Features Revealed

Anthony...

Any chance you guys implement the 3 click meter swing system?

Anthony will eventually speak for himself, but I can tell you with a high degree of confidence that there is none... it's just not in their vision for the game.

[AnthonyKyne]

Re: The Golf Club 2 Announced - Teaser Trailer & Some Features Revealed

Yeah as onlooker says ii doesn't fit the vision.
As an old 3-clicker myself I can see the reluctance to change but I can tell you once you do, it's hard to go back.

What can be achieved with analogue is far superior. The feel around the green, the deftness of touch, and the ability to take in the scene rather than concentrating on a power bar.

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[countryboy]

Re: The Golf Club 2 Announced - Teaser Trailer & Some Features Revealed

Yeah as onlooker says ii doesn't fit the vision.
As an old 3-clicker myself I can see the reluctance to change but I can tell you once you do, it's hard to go back.

What can be achieved with analogue is far superior. The feel around the green, the deftness of touch, and the ability to take in the scene rather than concentrating on a power bar.

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I've played both ways, both 3 click swing and analog stick. I just prefer the 3 click swing.

[RIFRIG]

Re: The Golf Club 2 Announced - Teaser Trailer & Some Features Revealed

Wow... seriously!? A new game engine, a new swing interface requiring a tempo component, customizable golfers, clubs and balls, user created clubs (societies) with custom competitions, custom camera configurations, other people/players out on the course during your round, likely blended 3-D grass transitions between fairway/first cut, first cut/rough, rough/heavy rough, green/fringe, fringe/fairway... and that's only worth the designation of 1.5??

IMO, what they're proposing with TGC 2 is the biggest leap over a forerunner I've ever seen in a computer or video golf game. I can't recall a game developer offering the level of updates HBS has put out over the last two years for TGC. Yes, we haven't had but one in the last seven months, but for a year and a half we've had an unprecedented number of updates for this game.

I'm sure the game will change for the better with gameplay & options but I'm not convinced Unity 5 can do much better visually than we already have in TGC.

[OnlookerDelay]

Re: The Golf Club 2 Announced - Teaser Trailer & Some Features Revealed

I'm sure the game will change for the better with gameplay & options but I'm not convinced Unity 5 can do much better visually than we already have in TGC.

Perfect Parallel's Andrew Jones said yesterday during the Jack Nicklaus Perfect Golf Twitch broadcast that they were able to nearly double the frame rates in JNPG using Unity 5.4. Of course JNPG uses SpeedTree (HBS has opted to not use SpeedTree for proprietary reasons... and I'm not here to cast judgment as to whether that's good or bad), which no doubt has some bearing on that.

The hidden benefit of doubling the frame rate is that it could also enable the unleashing of some of Unity's currently untapped or underutilized graphics features. I think we could see higher quality water reflections, more detailed 3D grass and course objects with the added performance boost, and still see a significant increase in frame rates, which the console versions, especially the XB1, of TGC sorely need.

If you've played the PC version of TGC on a better than average gaming gaming PC, you'll realize that the quality draw distance for trees and objects can be extended 4 times further, or more, while using 4X antialiasing and 8X anisotropic filtering to tidy up the graphics and textures even more. I'd like to see the console versions brought up to at least the quality and performance I currently experience on my PC. I average 40 to 45 FPS with the settings listed above on my PC. For comparison purposes, here's the specs of my gaming PC:

Intel Core i5-4440 3.1 GHz
Geforce GTX 960 2 GB (Superclocked)
8GB PC-1600 DDR3 RAM
Windows 10 64 bit