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  • Trillz
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    • Apr 2016
    • 1369

    #1

    How will the sale of the UFC to the new owners affect EA UFC 3?

    There has always been speculation that the current owners of the UFC wants full control of the decision of the fighter ratings, Also numerous other things. I just wonder what type of things can the devs do now compared to before the sell?

    Or does this sell mean the end of this game series??
    Last edited by Trillz; 07-12-2016, 01:30 PM.
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  • fishingtime
    Handling it
    • Aug 2013
    • 1738

    #2
    Re: How will the sale of the UFC to the new owners affect EA UFC 3?

    Originally posted by Trillz
    There has always been speculation that the current owners of the UFC wants full control of the decision of the fighter ratings, Also numerous other things. I just wonder what type of things can the devs do now compared to before the sell?
    If Sean Shelby and Joe Silva stay on as well, I'm wondering what will change. The new company might see making the game more of a game and let the open weight and other things go to try and bring in more players. That is the type of thing that I want to know. Would help to know who was saying what, and their justifications. If the new company wants to keep the UFC the way it is, nothing might change.

    There is always hope though.
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    • Boiler569
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      • Apr 2016
      • 2006

      #3
      Re: How will the sale of the UFC to the new owners affect EA UFC 3?

      Hopefully they'll let EA have equal or *more* say in future games

      The franchise has some momentum now --- the next game will make or break the entire future of EA UFC --- let's hope new owners either let it be; or better yet; double the resources available for UFC 3
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      • fishingtime
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        • Aug 2013
        • 1738

        #4
        Re: How will the sale of the UFC to the new owners affect EA UFC 3?

        Originally posted by Boiler569
        Hopefully they'll let EA have equal or *more* say in future games

        The franchise has some momentum now --- the next game will make or break the entire future of EA UFC --- let's hope new owners either let it be; or better yet; double the resources available for UFC 3
        The resources would likely be determined by this game's sales still. They know this is a niche market. UFC 2 sold much better, but is still not producing like it had. Could be though. Don't know the figures. Just know Undisputed 3 was the best game, and worst sales for the THQ franchise.
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        • aholbert32
          (aka Alberto)
          • Jul 2002
          • 33106

          #5
          Re: How will the sale of the UFC to the new owners affect EA UFC 3?

          Originally posted by Trillz
          There has always been speculation that the current owners of the UFC wants full control of the decision of the fighter ratings, Also numerous other things. I just wonder what type of things can the devs do now compared to before the sell?
          My hope is that the new owners wont care about things like attributes or player editing. Hopefully it will be like any other game and we can edit everything.

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          • fishingtime
            Handling it
            • Aug 2013
            • 1738

            #6
            Re: How will the sale of the UFC to the new owners affect EA UFC 3?

            Just read an old article that said THQ had to sell 2,000,000 copies of UFC 3 just to break even on it. Yikes!
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            • chia
              MVP
              • Jul 2005
              • 1090

              #7
              Re: How will the sale of the UFC to the new owners affect EA UFC 3?

              Originally posted by fishingtime
              The resources would likely be determined by this game's sales still. They know this is a niche market. UFC 2 sold much better, but is still not producing like it had. Could be though. Don't know the figures. Just know Undisputed 3 was the best game, and worst sales for the THQ franchise.
              UFC 2 has sold right over 1mil copies worldwide for PS4 and XB1 combined per vgchartz.
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              • aholbert32
                (aka Alberto)
                • Jul 2002
                • 33106

                #8
                Re: How will the sale of the UFC to the new owners affect EA UFC 3?

                Originally posted by fishingtime
                Just read an old article that said THQ had to sell 2,000,000 copies of UFC 3 just to break even on it. Yikes!
                Thats THQ's fault. The licensing of Pride fighters likely cost them a ton.

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                • fishingtime
                  Handling it
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 1738

                  #9
                  Re: How will the sale of the UFC to the new owners affect EA UFC 3?

                  Originally posted by chia
                  UFC 2 has sold right over 1mil copies worldwide for PS4 and XB1 combined per vgchartz.
                  We can likely assume close to 2,000,000 then because digital sales are almost half now. VG doesn't get those stats. Only EA, Zuffa, and their shareholders know the sales likely. I wonder how profitable it is, and if the sale isn't a way for EA to get out. They likely have a profit margin it must make to keep it going. Especially if they only had a two game mandatory deal. We don't know the details. This sale actually kind of worries me.
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                  • fishingtime
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                    • Aug 2013
                    • 1738

                    #10
                    Re: How will the sale of the UFC to the new owners affect EA UFC 3?

                    Originally posted by aholbert32
                    Thats THQ's fault. The licensing of Pride fighters likely cost them a ton.
                    Unlikely. Gary Goodridge had said he would do it for free. They likely paid him though. Pride Mode alone though could have been why it was so high for breaking even. Still though, these games don't seem to be cash cows.
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                    • chia
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 1090

                      #11
                      Re: How will the sale of the UFC to the new owners affect EA UFC 3?

                      Originally posted by fishingtime
                      We can likely assume close to 2,000,000 then because digital sales are almost half now. VG doesn't get those stats. Only EA, Zuffa, and their shareholders know the sales likely. I wonder how profitable it is, and if the sale isn't a way for EA to get out. They likely have a profit margin it must make to keep it going. Especially if they only had a two game mandatory deal. We don't know the details. This sale actually kind of worries me.
                      I guess it really depends on the deal in place and how that will be transferred. WME is all about marketing and products so losing even 1.5-2m units of marketing might not be good for them to lose out on. Even 1.5m units at $60/piece is $90m and then you start cutting up the pie from there. That's not small money. I believe WME will see the power of marketing better than Zuffa did which could be good and bad for the sport.
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                      • Morgan Monkman
                        North of 60
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 1385

                        #12
                        Re: How will the sale of the UFC to the new owners affect EA UFC 3?

                        Originally posted by fishingtime
                        Unlikely. Gary Goodridge had said he would do it for free. They likely paid him though. Pride Mode alone though could have been why it was so high for breaking even. Still though, these games don't seem to be cash cows.
                        Pride is owned by the UFC as well as fighter likeness.

                        They wouldn't have to pay a extra fee for them.
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                        • aholbert32
                          (aka Alberto)
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 33106

                          #13
                          Re: How will the sale of the UFC to the new owners affect EA UFC 3?

                          Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
                          Pride is owned by the UFC as well as fighter likeness.

                          They wouldn't have to pay a extra fee for them.
                          Thats not true for Pride. THQ wouldve hard to pay fighters that appeared in UFC 3 and were not currently under UFC/Zuffa contract. That includes:

                          Randleman
                          Herring
                          Frye
                          Goodridge
                          Yvel
                          Sapp
                          Severn
                          Soko
                          Baroni
                          Ninja Rua
                          Nakamura
                          Gracie
                          Gono
                          Kang
                          Filho
                          Newton
                          Bustamante
                          Pulver
                          Aureillo

                          Thats 20 fighters and I promise you a fighter like Gracie/Severn/Sapp didnt come cheap.

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                          • Morgan Monkman
                            North of 60
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 1385

                            #14
                            Re: How will the sale of the UFC to the new owners affect EA UFC 3?

                            Originally posted by aholbert32
                            Thats not true for Pride. THQ wouldve hard to pay fighters that appeared in UFC 3 and were not currently under UFC/Zuffa contract. That includes:

                            Randleman
                            Herring
                            Frye
                            Goodridge
                            Yvel
                            Sapp
                            Severn
                            Soko
                            Baroni
                            Ninja Rua
                            Nakamura
                            Gracie
                            Gono
                            Kang
                            Filho
                            Newton
                            Bustamante
                            Pulver
                            Aureillo

                            Thats 20 fighters and I promise you a fighter like Gracie/Severn/Sapp didnt come cheap.
                            Ok so if the UFC doesn't own their likeness (is that 100% sure?) They do own Pride, so why would THQ had to have paid extra for it?

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                            • aholbert32
                              (aka Alberto)
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 33106

                              #15
                              Re: How will the sale of the UFC to the new owners affect EA UFC 3?

                              Originally posted by fishingtime
                              We can likely assume close to 2,000,000 then because digital sales are almost half now. VG doesn't get those stats. Only EA, Zuffa, and their shareholders know the sales likely. I wonder how profitable it is, and if the sale isn't a way for EA to get out. They likely have a profit margin it must make to keep it going. Especially if they only had a two game mandatory deal. We don't know the details. This sale actually kind of worries me.
                              Everything I've heard indicates that EA is happy with the sales of UFC 2. I've heard nothing to indicate that they want out. I could be wrong but I dont think EA is looking to leave.

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