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  • Dogslax41
    MVP
    • Aug 2003
    • 1901

    #76
    Re: The Night Of (HBO)

    Originally posted by Money99
    Am I the only one that was a bit suspicious of Box handing him his inhaler?
    Shouldn't that be in lock-up as evidence? Surely Naz could have been given a new one?

    Was it because Box didn't like how there was no blood splatter anywhere near it and was obviously placed their after the crime was committed?
    Or was it simply because he was trying to gain Naz' trust?
    Thought the same thing when he gave it to him about it being evidence. I didn't even connect that he could be doing if for nefarious purposes to get it out of the crime scene. That's a really good point. I just though he was trying to extend the olive branch but the other suggestion makes more sense to me. I love this show both watching it and being able to post and read others observations about all the random stuff that opens up endless theories.

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    • CMH
      Making you famous
      • Oct 2002
      • 26203

      #77
      Re: The Night Of (HBO)

      The theory that Box was removing evidence from the scene is a great one to me. I think until I see otherwise, I'm going to side with that one.
      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

      "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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      • EnigmaNemesis
        Animal Liberation
        • Apr 2006
        • 12216

        #78
        Re: The Night Of (HBO)

        Originally posted by CMH
        The theory that Box was removing evidence from the scene is a great one to me. I think until I see otherwise, I'm going to side with that one.
        Thinking about it now... after that scene, seeing him doubling down to the prosecutor when she pressed him, and this also coming after we seen him look unsure about Nas being the the killer earlier, just adds a new twist.

        I am wondering if he is covering for someone (not fully intentionally mind you). He did look at the crime scene with 'familiarity'.

        I am on that side now as well.
        Last edited by EnigmaNemesis; 07-22-2016, 12:27 AM.
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        • AshamanCarnage
          Rookie
          • Jul 2006
          • 1252

          #79
          Re: The Night Of (HBO)

          Originally posted by jb12780
          Was the same used for the five finger filet used to kill the victim? If I remember correctly didn't Naz find the knife next to him when he woke up the morning after?

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          Originally posted by CMH
          The theory that Box was removing evidence from the scene is a great one to me. I think until I see otherwise, I'm going to side with that one.
          I thought they stated he would bend the rules but not break them, removing evidence so no one raises questions seems more on the breaking side. I figured he was just was trying to get Naz to trust him and open up to him, like when he put on the "show" about letting the parents in.

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          • Rocky
            All Star
            • Jul 2002
            • 6896

            #80
            Re: The Night Of (HBO)

            Originally posted by AshamanCarnage
            I thought they stated he would bend the rules but not break them, removing evidence so no one raises questions seems more on the breaking side. I figured he was just was trying to get Naz to trust him and open up to him, like when he put on the "show" about letting the parents in.
            True but I think he knew that Naz was a novice which is why he gave it to him in the first place. Which would lead back to Box not believing he did it in the first place.
            "Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."
            -Rocky Balboa

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            • JayBee74
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2002
              • 22989

              #81
              Re: The Night Of (HBO)

              Originally posted by CMH
              The theory that Box was removing evidence from the scene is a great one to me. I think until I see otherwise, I'm going to side with that one.
              Would Box do that though? I tend to think he is more ethical, but who knows?

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              • CMH
                Making you famous
                • Oct 2002
                • 26203

                #82
                Re: The Night Of (HBO)

                Originally posted by JayBee74
                Would Box do that though? I tend to think he is more ethical, but who knows?
                I see where you're going with this but is it ethical of him to not further question his gut feelings?

                He knows something seems off about the case, but he still pushed hard for a charge.

                Ignoring his intentions for a moment, he removed something from the crime scene. Why?
                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                • Novicain13
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 1526

                  #83
                  Re: The Night Of (HBO)

                  Originally posted by CMH
                  I see where you're going with this but is it ethical of him to not further question his gut feelings?

                  He knows something seems off about the case, but he still pushed hard for a charge.

                  Ignoring his intentions for a moment, he removed something from the crime scene. Why?


                  Maybe Box has never lost a case. So he removed a piece of evidence that could turn the case and harm his reputation.

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                  • CMH
                    Making you famous
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 26203

                    #84
                    Re: The Night Of (HBO)

                    Originally posted by CMH
                    I see where you're going with this but is it ethical of him to not further question his gut feelings?

                    He knows something seems off about the case, but he still pushed hard for a charge.

                    Ignoring his intentions for a moment, he removed something from the crime scene. Why?
                    I will apologize because I spoke you into circles.

                    I initially asked if he removed evidence and then I told you he removed evidence.

                    In some way I reminded myself of the scene and it does seem the inhaler should be evidence.

                    Anyway, only writing this because of the first two sentences.
                    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                    • JayBee74
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 22989

                      #85
                      Re: The Night Of (HBO)

                      I keep seeing James Gandolfini's credit as executive producer. I didn't realize Turturro's role was originally his (he even shot the pilot, the last thing he filmed). A month after it was picked up by HBO Gandolfini died, HBO moved ahead with it, then decided to give him the EP credit.

                      Tuturro became friends with Gandolfini after being introduced to him by his sister Aida Turturro, who played Tony's sister on The Sopranos.

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                      • CMH
                        Making you famous
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 26203

                        #86
                        Re: The Night Of (HBO)

                        I thought this show would be about the investigation but I think it's more about Naz's experience, which is cool too. Just felt like this episode was a different direction than the others.

                        But in a limited series covering the entire legal process from a convicted person's perspective, I guess every episode would feel different.
                        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                        "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                        • JayBee74
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 22989

                          #87
                          Re: The Night Of (HBO)

                          Originally posted by CMH
                          I thought this show would be about the investigation but I think it's more about Naz's experience, which is cool too. Just felt like this episode was a different direction than the others.

                          But in a limited series covering the entire legal process from a convicted person's perspective, I guess every episode would feel different.
                          Different, but IMO the best episode so far of a series that is shaping up to be outstanding.

                          Not sure what Freddy's motives are, but you can't go wrong with Michael K Williams.

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                          • jake44np
                            Post Like a Champion!
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 9563

                            #88
                            Re: The Night Of (HBO)

                            Originally posted by JayBee74
                            Different, but IMO the best episode so far of a series that is shaping up to be outstanding.

                            Not sure what Freddy's motives are, but you can't go wrong with Michael K Williams.
                            I think it is one of two things.
                            1. He is going to get close to Naz and then say he confessed to the murder to him to help him get out of jail earlier.
                            or
                            2. And this is the theory I believe to be true. He knows Naz didn't do it because he knows who did do it and he feel sorry for Naz. I think he pretty much knows everything that goes on because of his contacts and he knows Naz didn't do it.
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                            • EnigmaNemesis
                              Animal Liberation
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 12216

                              #89
                              Re: The Night Of (HBO)

                              Originally posted by jake44np
                              I think it is one of two things.
                              1. He is going to get close to Naz and then say he confessed to the murder to him to help him get out of jail earlier.
                              or
                              2. And this is the theory I believe to be true. He knows Naz didn't do it because he knows who did do it and he feel sorry for Naz. I think he pretty much knows everything that goes on because of his contacts and he knows Naz didn't do it.
                              I am going with 2. And it may have been a rival person as well (that may have even framed him too). Reason being, is he mentioned to Naz about the guards growing up with them, same hoods, etc., and everything is all connected, inside and out.
                              Boston Red Sox | Miami Dolphins

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                              • AshamanCarnage
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 1252

                                #90
                                Re: The Night Of (HBO)

                                Does anyone think their might be some significance to them showing the gate where they let the cat in multiple times?

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