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  • Hova57
    MVP
    • Mar 2008
    • 3760

    #46
    Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay Short Clip Videos (GameInformer)

    Originally posted by rkocjay
    i like the knocking out the ball in ball physics video mostly just for fun. i fel the game looks less cartoonish and moves much better. AP running looks more natural but of course i need to see a full game
    I didn't like the 1 hand tackle bringing AP down

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    • Hova57
      MVP
      • Mar 2008
      • 3760

      #47
      Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay - Short Video Clips (GameInformer)

      Originally posted by extremeskins04
      Yea, Rodgers didn't fall apart. Not sure where he got that from.

      But the videos looked great. I loved the block punt, the OL/DL interaction video and the ball physics. Very excited for Madden this year!
      Overall stats Rodgers looked good,but individual games he had some really bad ones looked a little disjointed. I believe where the filing apart comes from

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      • Impetuous65
        MVP
        • Feb 2015
        • 1457

        #48
        Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay - Short Video Clips (GameInformer)

        Seeing this game in action just doesn't excite me anymore. The animations are just ground hog day, I don't get it anymore. The day 1 purchase is almost literally gone for me on this title.

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        • DeuceDouglas
          Madden Dev Team
          • Apr 2010
          • 4313

          #49
          Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay - Short Video Clips (GameInformer)

          Originally posted by GiantBlue76
          Yes, exactly. All I saw there was the same thing that makes me put the game away. These super human, ridiculous looking movements that lead to turnovers. I know it's being touted as "smarter" defense, but it's not smarter, it's super human. In real life, he would have to plant his foot, attempt to change direction and get over there. Chances are he'd probably slip or have to put his hand on the ground to regain his balance. That is a case where you throw that pick and you throw your controller out of frustration. The overall player movement is still so choppy and stuttered.
          Completely agree. All three of the plays in that video look really bad when it comes to player movement.

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          In the first one, Mathieu is running to the right with the receiver running his route pretty much parallel with him in the opposite direction and yet he's still able to come to a complete stop with both feet flatfooted and then just turns and immediately maintains speed with the receiver who's already running.

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          The second one it's Manti Te'o and it looks like he starts to turn his hips to the left and then mid step just swivels back to his right and immediately jumps.

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          The third one is the best looking of the bunch IMO. My only issue is how quickly Lee breaks through the ball.

          These plays look good on the surface but there still is way too much warping paired with a lack of momentum and acceleration IMO.

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          • steeldee7
            Rookie
            • Jun 2015
            • 116

            #50
            Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay - Short Video Clips (GameInformer)

            Yes some of the movement is still choppy but the 1st video is very realistic. These athletes actually do this its called a cone drill to measure this type of ability. If you have never played sports you wouldn't understand. The second video is a problem Madden always had. But the 1st one is something I've watched and done myself on a court and grass field. Its called explosion in scouting terms. It was also a bad throw behind the target.

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            • SolidSquid
              MVP
              • Aug 2014
              • 3157

              #51
              Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay - Short Video Clips (GameInformer)

              Originally posted by steeldee7
              Yes some of the movement is still choppy but the 1st video is very realistic. These athletes actually do this its called a cone drill to measure this type of ability. If you have never played sports you wouldn't understand. The second video is a problem Madden always had. But the 1st one is something I've watched and done myself on a court and grass field. Its called explosion in scouting terms. It was also a bad throw behind the target.
              Idc what you run in the cone drill. If a wr is running or slant or drag to the left like in the first video, and you're running the opposite way like Mathieu, there no way you can stop, change direction, then accelerate again all while keeping stride for stride with said WR. It's not realistic at all.

              This is where we are with madden movement. Way back when, when there was another football game they went with realistic animation over complete user control. This meant you had to allow your players to accelerate and decelerate before you could change direction. EA when the opposite direction giving full user control to players at anytime without regard to physics. It's why swerve running is a thing. Maybe a new engine can fix it.

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              • Turbojugend
                MVP
                • Sep 2013
                • 2242

                #52
                Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay - Short Video Clips (GameInformer)

                As long as aggressive CPU catches are toned down, I'm good. My Madden 16 matches almost read like a script now:

                CPU 1st Down: Stopped for little or no gain
                CPU 2nd Down: Stopped for little or no gain
                CPU 3rd Down: Prayer chucked into double coverage, resulting in a miraculous one-handed grab that would turn Odell Beckham Jr. green with envy
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                • JKSportsGamer1984
                  MVP
                  • May 2014
                  • 1379

                  #53
                  Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay - Short Video Clips (GameInformer)

                  Originally posted by Black Bruce Wayne
                  I read early on, that there were going to be new gameplay camera angles added to this years Madden. Can anyone confirm this?
                  They said there would be new "camera angles" not gameplay cameras. They were talking about presentation camera angles. It's already been confirmed there are no new gameplay cameras. We seriously need a Custom camera option back though.

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                  • smace767
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 291

                    #54
                    Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay - Short Video Clips (GameInformer)

                    Over analyzing a simple play. First video- he no doubt has cover one responsibility.

                    He moves to his left not sprints to center of the field. He starts to breakdown and stops at his spot, before the wr gets to the hash. So he is dead center. The wr is at the hash when he changes direction.

                    The wr gets past him during his change of direction. But being an explosive athlete he makes the change and accelerates. The throw is soft and behind. He made the catch at the other hash.

                    It is a video game so real life movement is a harsh standard but...

                    If video Tyrann Mathieu didn't make that type of play in that situation I would throw my controller.

                    Swerve running while still cheese is nowhere near the problem it was in Madden 13-25. Swerves messed up pursuit angles. They upped the AI adapting its pursuit angles every release.
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                    • Armor and Sword
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                      • Sep 2010
                      • 21551

                      #55
                      Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay - Short Video Clips (GameInformer)

                      I am really impressed with the zones and line play. The game is looking even better than 16....which IMO was the best console football game to date.

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                      • smace767
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 291

                        #56
                        Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay - Short Video Clips (GameInformer)

                        That's one play.

                        I am not saying Madden is perfect and movement and momentum is spot on, and there are bad examples you can find and post, but to say play one is "bad" or terrible goes too far IMO.
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                        • HolyCrap
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 300

                          #57
                          Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay Short Clip Videos (GameInformer)

                          The good:

                          Ball physics are solid. Blocking looks improved.
                          Defensive zones look much improved as well.

                          The Bad:

                          Changing direction is too easy no loss of speed.
                          Collisions look terrible.
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                          • sportsfan1976
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2015
                            • 19

                            #58
                            Originally posted by HolyCrap
                            The good:

                            Ball physics are solid. Blocking looks improved.
                            Defensive zones look much improved as well.

                            The Bad:

                            Changing direction is too easy no loss of speed.
                            Collisions look terrible.
                            Holy Crap I agree

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                            • phenom2311
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 122

                              #59
                              Originally posted by cthurt
                              All the new features are nice and very welcomed but I just cant get past how this game is an eyesore when in motion, feels like I finally reached that point where the movement of the players really get to me where its all I notice and its hard to keep looking past it.
                              Been at that point brotha. The running animations kill me especially.

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                              • PVarck31
                                Moderator
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 16978

                                #60
                                Re: Madden NFL 17 Gameplay - Short Video Clips (GameInformer)

                                I guess I'm one of the only ones who doesn't get hung up on player movement. Not saying its good, but I guess I'm just used to it and it doesn't bother me like it does others.

                                I really liked 16. Not a great game, but very solid. So I am sure I will like 17 and I'm excited for it.

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