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  • TheKingOfVa
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    • Sep 2004
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    #16
    Re: Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Free Safeties

    Originally posted by Facts
    So Honey Badger has the highest man coverage in Madden? Really? A saftey? Better man cover guys IRL

    Revis
    Pat Pete
    Jason Verrett
    Watch the games, Honey Badger was the top coverage man in the nfl by a good margin. Check the PFF stats

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    • azdawgpound
      All Star
      • Nov 2009
      • 5533

      #17
      Re: Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Free Safeties

      Originally posted by manEATgod
      Does he really count as just a safety though? Also it seems like he has so much experience as a slot corner. Without much help its one of the harder spots to defend since there is no sideline to help. It might be a tad bit much but people are going wild over this like it isn't close.
      He was listed as CB in 16 and had 98 man coverage...and was highest rated then as well.

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      • Facts
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        • May 2009
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        #18
        Re: Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Free Safeties

        Originally posted by TheKingOfVa
        Watch the games, Honey Badger was the top coverage man in the nfl by a good margin. Check the PFF stats
        Check the film, he's covering backs, TEs and slots. Pat Pete has the top WR. He's a better man cover guy than Badger.


        Best man cover saftey in the league? Yes. Best man cover player in the league? Not even close.

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        • manEATgod
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          • Nov 2013
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          #19
          Re: Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Free Safeties

          Originally posted by azdawgpound
          He was listed as CB in 16 and had 98 man coverage...and was highest rated then as well.
          Right. This isn't new nor should it be so polarizing.

          Originally posted by Facts
          Check the film, he's covering backs, TEs and slots. Pat Pete has the top WR. He's a better man cover guy than Badger.


          Best man cover saftey in the league? Yes. Best man cover player in the league? Not even close.
          Pat Pete also has much more athleticism and size. That's going to affect coverage. Honey Badger won't be the best man cover guy in madden, in practice.

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          • TheKingOfVa
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            • Sep 2004
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            #20
            Re: Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Free Safeties

            Originally posted by Facts
            Check the film, he's covering backs, TEs and slots. Pat Pete has the top WR. He's a better man cover guy than Badger.


            Best man cover saftey in the league? Yes. Best man cover player in the league? Not even close.
            I saw every game in Honey Badgers career, he covers receivers also. He was by far the best at coverage in the nfl last year. Better than Patrick Peterson

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            • Facts
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              • May 2009
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              #21
              Re: Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Free Safeties

              Originally posted by TheKingOfVa
              I saw every game in Honey Badgers career, he covers receivers also. He was by far the best at coverage in the nfl last year. Better than Patrick Peterson
              You guys are confusing zone and man. Badger was everywhere last year, true. But I'm talking about just man coverage. Why isn't he on guys like Calvin Johnson and AJ Green taking them out of the game?


              Man 98? You're telling me he's just 1 point under guys like Prime Revis and Prime Sanders in man coverage? Man stop.

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              • TheKingOfVa
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                • Sep 2004
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                #22
                Re: Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Free Safeties

                Originally posted by Facts
                You guys are confusing zone and man. Badger was everywhere last year, true. But I'm talking about just man coverage. Why isn't he on guys like Calvin Johnson and AJ Green taking them out of the game?


                Man 98? You're telling me he's just 1 point under guys like Prime Revis and Prime Sanders in man coverage? Man stop.
                your name is facts but you refuse to look at the facts. Honey badger was a mile ahead of everyone in his PFF coverage ratings. He didn't need to cover Calvin or AJ because PP21 was on them. That's his role on the team.

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                • Facts
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                  • May 2009
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                  #23
                  Re: Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Free Safeties

                  Originally posted by TheKingOfVa
                  your name is facts but you refuse to look at the facts. Honey badger was a mile ahead of everyone in his PFF coverage ratings. He didn't need to cover Calvin or AJ because PP21 was on them. That's his role on the team.
                  Exactly, Pat Pete manning up against them because he's the better option in man coverage. Badger over the top because he's the better zone option and also offers better run support. PFF has you mixing up the 2 techniques.

                  Man and Zone are 2 different worlds. Don't believe me, ask Nnamdi Asomugha

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                  • manEATgod
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                    • Nov 2013
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                    #24
                    Re: Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Free Safeties

                    Originally posted by Facts
                    You guys are confusing zone and man. Badger was everywhere last year, true. But I'm talking about just man coverage. Why isn't he on guys like Calvin Johnson and AJ Green taking them out of the game?


                    Man 98? You're telling me he's just 1 point under guys like Prime Revis and Prime Sanders in man coverage? Man stop.
                    Sanders also had legendary speed and agility. In the game he will play as a much better man cover guy than Honey Badger because of those attributes. You need to understand the man coverage rating is only part of the equation.

                    Originally posted by Facts
                    Exactly, Pat Pete manning up against them because he's the better option in man coverage. Badger over the top because he's the better zone option and also offers better run support. PFF has you mixing up the 2 techniques.

                    Man and Zone are 2 different worlds. Don't believe me, ask Nnamdi Asomugha
                    No Pat Pete has more speed and size to cover those types of receivers. I never thought Pat Pete had the best man coverage on the Cardinals.

                    Giving Honey Badger 98 man coverage in the game makes him play true to his real life counterpart. I'm going to leave it at that.
                    Last edited by manEATgod; 08-01-2016, 01:37 PM.

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                    • Facts
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                      • May 2009
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                      #25
                      Re: Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Free Safeties

                      Originally posted by manEATgod
                      Sanders also had legendary speed and agility. In the game he will play as a much better man cover guy than Honey Badger because of those attributes. You need to understand the man coverage rating is only part of the equation.



                      No Pat Pete has more speed and size to cover those types of receivers. I never thought Pat Pete had the best man coverage on the Cardinals.

                      Giving Honey Badger 98 man coverage in the game makes him play true to his real life counterpart. I'm going to leave it at that.
                      Like I said earlier. Badger isn't covering WR1. He's got slots, TEs, and backs. 89 Man at most should lock them down. This guy isn't locking down great WRs on an island like Revis. Madden is making this guy a true lockdown corner playing saftey which he isn't.

                      He's the best man cover saftey in the league NOT the best man cover guy in the league. Don't get it twisted.

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                      • TheKingOfVa
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                        • Sep 2004
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                        #26
                        Re: Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Free Safeties

                        Originally posted by Facts
                        Like I said earlier. Badger isn't covering WR1. He's got slots, TEs, and backs. 89 Man at most should lock them down. This guy isn't locking down great WRs on an island like Revis. Madden is making this guy a true lockdown corner playing saftey which he isn't.

                        He's the best man cover saftey in the league NOT the best man cover guy in the league. Don't get it twisted.
                        So did you have a problem with Chris Harris's coverage rating? He covers number 3 and 4 wr's most of the time.

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                        • XtremeDunkz
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                          #27
                          Re: Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Free Safeties

                          Damn HCD is only 13th...

                          I feel like he is massively underrated.
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                          • charter04
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                            #28
                            Re: Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Free Safeties

                            Yea Mathieu has coverage rating too high compared to the others.

                            I know PFF is not the only good source but, they have him listed at CB not FS. He plays mostly in the slot.

                            Here is how he stacks up at coverage with the top 5 CB's according to PFF

                            1. Mathieu 91.5
                            2. Jason Verrett 91.5
                            3. Johnathan Joseph 89.2
                            4. Josh Norman 87.8
                            5. Patrick Peterson 87.1

                            So to have Mathieu that far ahead of even CB's in his coverage ratings is not accurate according PFF data
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                            • 87Birdman
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                              • Jul 2011
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                              #29
                              Re: Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Free Safeties

                              Originally posted by TheKingOfVa
                              So did you have a problem with Chris Harris's coverage rating? He covers number 3 and 4 wr's most of the time.
                              But according to PFF Harris was also the best in the slot with opposing qb rating against.

                              Harris also starts. That means covering the number 1 and 2 on the outside. It's nickel that he kicks down to the slot.

                              But according to this the honey badger could be put on the number 1 receiver and lock him down with no help.

                              Do you believe he could lock down Dez Julio dt those toe of receivers? Because that rating means he can because that is what people will do in madden because that rating will make it possible for him to cover anyone not just slot players.

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                              • manEATgod
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                                • Nov 2013
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                                #30
                                Re: Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Free Safeties

                                Originally posted by charter04
                                Yea Mathieu has coverage rating too high compared to the others.

                                I know PFF is not the only good source but, they have him listed at CB not FS. He plays mostly in the slot.

                                Here is how he stacks up at coverage with the top 5 CB's according to PFF

                                1. Mathieu 91.5
                                2. Jason Verrett 91.5
                                3. Johnathan Joseph 89.2
                                4. Josh Norman 87.8
                                5. Patrick Peterson 87.1

                                So to have Mathieu that far ahead of even CB's in his coverage ratings is not accurate according PFF data
                                Is this PFF category just looking at man coverage? Also Pat Pete is going to be better and more complete in man coverage due to his other attributes, just like in real life,which is why he follows the best around instead of Honey Badger.

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