Your opinion on the Judges Scoring

[Shogun474]

Its no secret I hate the way scoring is implemented in this game. Dominating a fight and scoring higher fight stat totals on every stat and still losing a decision is bS.

[Boiler569]

Re: Your opinion on the Judges Scoring

honestly i feel like UFC 2 has better judging than most every EA Fighting game before it lol

it aint perfect by any means, but neither is 'real life' judging

i'd say 75% or 80% of decisions I'm involved in, win or loss, are appropriate...maybe not perfect but appropriate.

There are definitely a few BS ones of course but like I said, there are a lot of those in real life too so kinda hard to complain haha

[fballturkey]

Re: Your opinion on the Judges Scoring

I think it's decent. The two things I think that would help the most would be fixing significant strikes and giving some credit for rocking an opponent.

[trainbyday1]

Re: Your opinion on the Judges Scoring

There are some aspects of judging in the game that are complete BS. Like I found out recently that when you block a take down the judges score that in your favor. Under the unified rules blocked take downs should not be scored for either fighter but for some strange reason in the game blocking take downs scores you points. If they have implemented that who know what other wacky nonsensical scoring they have implemented.

[Trillz]

Re: Your opinion on the Judges Scoring

There are some aspects of judging in the game that are complete BS. Like I found out recently that when you block a take down the judges score that in your favor. Under the unified rules blocked take downs should not be scored for either fighter but for some strange reason in the game blocking take downs scores you points. If they have implemented that who know what other wacky nonsensical scoring they have implemented.

U do get scored for defending a takedown.

[JustBlazeM8]

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I once outscored someone in every possible aspect and still lost. I don't have a God's honest clue how I lost it. The strikes landed was something stupid, like 270 to 73. I even got a 50-45 to me, and the fight still ended in a split, with 48-47 to him. I didn't understand how that happened whatsoever.

If there was one loss I'd want overturned, it would definitely be that.

[Bigg Cee]

Re: Your opinion on the Judges Scoring

At first it was ok but now more and more I'm seeing crazy decisions in this game by the judges. I would not mine a tweak to the scoring system in the next patch. There's to many fight I control in every aspect but still lose. It happens a lot more on the red side then blue side I notice but that could just be me.

[Shogun474]

Re: Your opinion on the Judges Scoring

At first it was ok but now more and more I'm seeing crazy decisions in this game by the judges. I would not mine a tweak to the scoring system in the next patch. There's to many fight I control in every aspect but still lose. It happens a lot more on the red side then blue side I notice but that could just be me.

Its funny u mention corner colors as i always felt that the red side was favored by the judges in FNC also. Maybe its an EA thing...


A judging revamp would awesome if they could patch it in.

[Ksearyback]

Re: Your opinion on the Judges Scoring

There are some aspects of judging in the game that are complete BS. Like I found out recently that when you block a take down the judges score that in your favor. Under the unified rules blocked take downs should not be scored for either fighter but for some strange reason in the game blocking take downs scores you points. If they have implemented that who know what other wacky nonsensical scoring they have implemented.

It's effective defense. Of course it should be part of the equation

[Ksearyback]

Re: Your opinion on the Judges Scoring

I don't mind scoring too much. Every now and then I'm baffled, but i don't mind too much.

The only thing that seems to be a killer at times is 'cage control.' There are times you can dominate striking but if you don't spend some time in he middle of the ring or charging forward, it's a little dicey, regardless of whether or not you were winning the striking off your back foot

[Siorai56]

Re: Your opinion on the Judges Scoring

It would be cool to see specific judges (they can be fake names) that are swayed in certain ways (similar to what FIFA has with referee) and you knew what you were dealing with. John Smith is a former fighter leans towards aggression, Sue Brown is a boxing historian sometimes will be soft on grappling, etc etc. In the current product, I would think it would be as simple as weighing 3 scores with some small variables to cause some difference between the 3 against all the stat categories, BUT I have lost decisions where I have won every category. I lost a fight one time where i had 2 knockdowns in 2 of the 3 rounds.

Hopefully we are trending towards v3 of this game starting to get down into some of the nitty gritty, the fight mechanics are LIGHT YEARS ahead of where we were with the first version of the game at launch so EA can start focusing on some nuance.

[Ksearyback]

Re: Your opinion on the Judges Scoring

It would be cool to see specific judges (they can be fake names) that are swayed in certain ways (similar to what FIFA has with referee) and you knew what you were dealing with. John Smith is a former fighter leans towards aggression, Sue Brown is a boxing historian sometimes will be soft on grappling, etc etc. In the current product, I would think it would be as simple as weighing 3 scores with some small variables to cause some difference between the 3 against all the stat categories, BUT I have lost decisions where I have won every category. I lost a fight one time where i had 2 knockdowns in 2 of the 3 rounds.

Hopefully we are trending towards v3 of this game starting to get down into some of the nitty gritty, the fight mechanics are LIGHT YEARS ahead of where we were with the first version of the game at launch so EA can start focusing on some nuance.

I actually brought up this before. I can't actually remember the reply I got from one of the devs but it actually made sense, and was sufficient to my asking for variation in judges.

Balance plays a part in this for sure. Even if you disagree on the outcome, the goal was to provide a balance across the three judges (one striking, one grappling, and the X factor being the balanced judge). Fair enough.

So if you introduce, let's say 10 judges with various biases, you've just introduced a ton of potential outcomes in which the three judges all, to some degree, favor some particular skill. Well, there goes the balance. Maybe this is desirable to some, but I would disagree. First, it gives the advantage to people who keep track of the judges and their biases (assuming EA made it so the judges were known ahead of time). This also would make for a potentially silly outcome with extremely uneven total scoring (one player dominates 4/5 minutes of each round on the ground but loses because he was out struck during the one minute of standup).

[trainbyday1]

Re: Your opinion on the Judges Scoring

It's effective defense. Of course it should be part of the equation

Effective defense is no longer a scoring criteria in MMA according to a change made to the unified MMA rules in 2012. See article below. John Mccarthy has also clarified this several times on his podcast that blocked take downs are viewed as their own reward since the 2012 rule change and they should not be scored for either fighter. The other major change from the same meeting was effective striking and grappling should be scored equally. Before the 2012 rule change effective striking was scored higher than effective grappling. I have asked he DEV's for clarification on this but they are yet to respond.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/7/17...oring-mma-news

[Boiler569]

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I definitely do wish Significant Strikes were re-vamped

I can land several hammerfists from full mount...not a sig strike....

But leg kicks that do know real damage, count as sig strike?

Kind of a basic example, but i think you guys know what I mean...

I've finished someone in a couple minutes of the first round with some BOMBS and ended up getting like 2 sig strikes lmao

[Bigg Cee]

Re: Your opinion on the Judges Scoring

I definitely do wish Significant Strikes were re-vamped

I can land several hammerfists from full mount...not a sig strike....

But leg kicks that do know real damage, count as sig strike?

Kind of a basic example, but i think you guys know what I mean...

I've finished someone in a couple minutes of the first round with some BOMBS and ended up getting like 2 sig strikes lmao

Side control wins you a round faster then getting full mount and dropping hammerfist till the person is all red. It's weird that they made full mount in the judges eyes not mean much. Also back sitting gets you a round win quick.