Madden NFL 17 To Be More Transparent With Ratings Than Ever Before

[juduking]

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Anyone know how I can make the ratings info spreadsheet larger so I can print it?

[Ueauvan]

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my preferred skills are not in one scheme

different teams rate rookies and fas differently depending on their needs, priorities, schemes, likes etc.

i want my safeties to have high zcv, ok mcv, better than average prc/pur, fair speed and mcv, and fair tackle

dont think any scheme has that for a safety, why cant i make one?

[reyes the roof]

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Shouldn't the percentages add up to 100%? QB only adds up to 87, unless I'm misinterpreting something

[BleedGreen710]

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Shouldn't the percentages add up to 100%? QB only adds up to 87, unless I'm misinterpreting something

well thats.. weird

[charter04]

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Shouldn't the percentages add up to 100%? QB only adds up to 87, unless I'm misinterpreting something

That's weird. Lol. Surely the equation used strength for QBs. That rating isn't included in the equation. Or pass blocking for the RB. Something's off for sure


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[Ruben2424]

People will still go crazy, but this chart shows why folks shouldn't grip so hard about OVR. A player can be poor in a couple of areas, and that will cause him to possibly be like 3-4 points lower than another player in OVR, but he will still ball out if you use him correctly.

Exactly! That's what I've tried explaining to people over and over again! The player's overall doesn't really matter. What is most important is that their key positional attributes are good!

[D81SKINS]

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Brings up an interesting question....does coach scheme already affect those percentages (even as simply a modifier)?

It's important in a way. Based on the chart, RT overall is weighed more heavily for RBK than PBK (vice versa for LT). What if I have a lefty QB?

Possible position change for your best PBK LT, move him to RT?
Or scout/draft the highest rated PBK, RT....

[bucky60]

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Exactly! That's what I've tried explaining to people over and over again! The player's overall doesn't really matter. What is most important is that their key positional attributes are good!

Doesn't overall matter in a Franchise. Doesn't overall heavily factor into contracts, trades, etc. If overall doesn't accurately reflect the players effectiveness, doesn't that create a franchise/team imbalance?

It could be that I'm just misunderstanding you.

[khaliib]

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Doesn't overall matter in a Franchise. Doesn't overall heavily factor into contracts, trades, etc. If overall doesn't accurately reflect the players effectiveness, doesn't that create a franchise/team imbalance?

It could be that I'm just misunderstanding you.

Contracts and depth chart positioning, that's it.

With the ability to edit contracts now, I plan on doing contracts to represent the players skill set for that team schemes vs the generalized worst to best structure currently followed.

[canes21]

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How very Madden-eque. The QB chart doesn't add up to 100% and this feels a bit incomplete since it doesn't tell you how each scheme and player type changes the formula.

[bucky60]

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Contracts and depth chart positioning, that's it.

With the ability to edit contracts now, I plan on doing contracts to represent the players skill set for that team schemes vs the generalized worst to best structure currently followed.

Thank god for full player editing, but it's a shame some of us feel we have to.

[kehlis]

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It's weird that it wouldn't be like this for the other positions but it's possible the other categories all (or most) share a fraction of a percentage point in the overall which could be why they were left off.

Just a thought.

Doesn't overall matter in a Franchise. Doesn't overall heavily factor into contracts, trades, etc. If overall doesn't accurately reflect the players effectiveness, doesn't that create a franchise/team imbalance?

It could be that I'm just misunderstanding you.

I can't speak for what he was going for but I used to make that same argument but basically only when comparing the Madden rating to real life performance when pissing matches are going on about this player being too high or this player being too low.

I've never used with how the overall actually affects CFM.

[Last Gunfighter]

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Anyone who wants to go through and compare this new weighting chart (the one on the OP's post) to the old one (below) gets extra credit:

(Spoiler tagged so as not to cause confusion to people just browsing the thread looking for the current chart)

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Source: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/madden/#part1

Is this the chart for 16?

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[bcruise]

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Is this the chart for 16?

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We can't know for sure. It was the chart from '15, so it might have changed for '16 and it might not.

I used it last year and the OVR gains when I added points to an attribute were pretty predictable., so it was at least really close.

[Last Gunfighter]

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Maybe this is a stupid question but what do the different colors indicate? I thought it was the darker colors were the more important attributes but that does seem to be right. 😕

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