The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

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  • DeuceDouglas
    Madden Dev Team
    • Apr 2010
    • 4297

    #16
    Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

    Good to see that they will indeed save game-to-game. Like I said in the other thread, I really hope this can pave the way for more personnel features like custom packages. Also they definitely need to find a way to make customs be available in CFM and hopefully that will be the next logical step with this.

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    • DeuceDouglas
      Madden Dev Team
      • Apr 2010
      • 4297

      #17
      Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

      Originally posted by Tengo Juego
      The positions being restricted kills all excitement. Sure, now I can finally change personnel groupings per formation. But I can't, without changing positions, put Randall Cobb or Ty Montgomery at RB. Or Morgan Burnett at LB. Because... Balance concerns? Both of these things are going to happen on the field this season.
      Agreed. Not sure why it would be made so restrictive. Since it's only a CFM feature it should have been, at the very least, something a commissioner had control over.

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      • JayD
        All Star
        • Mar 2004
        • 5457

        #18
        Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

        Dang! I was really hoping we didnt need to use 32 team control to get formation subs. I was hoping the CPU did their own.

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        • Brightline
          Banned
          • Jul 2013
          • 382

          #19
          Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

          This may sound silly but i respect that they acknowledge this as the return of a feature and not attempt to package it as something new.

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          • Hooe
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2002
            • 21555

            #20
            Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

            The position restrictions are cumbersome, but I'd rather have formation subs with restrictions than none at all.

            If I were to guess, the restrictions are a philosophical holdover from the "cheese preventing" mentality of Gen 2, where everyone clamored very hard for these sorts of things (in particular, WR at TE was a big no-no that people fought hard against, and that's still in place here). Based on the comments here, however, attitudes appear to have shifted on that front.

            To be clear, I'm also in the "give us more flexibility" camp, but I can understand the though process for rolling this out initially with the restrictions in place. To be honest, I expected them.

            Might be worth checking also - do these restrictions match those of the depth chart and in-game formation substitutions?

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            • Quentin32
              Pro
              • Sep 2015
              • 546

              #21
              I kno this is about to sound crazy, but this confirmed I'm not getting or playing 17'

              I'm tight right now

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              • StayPlation82
                Pro
                • Apr 2008
                • 706

                #22
                Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

                As a work around, does the Green Bay and LA playbooks have the WR at HB package? if so, from the NCAA days just make sure not to change the HB to someone else in that formation sub and you should be able to still use the package. at this point though it's all speculation. not even sure if those packages were in for M16.
                "Accept victory and defeat in equanimity"

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                • redsfan4life
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 2763

                  #23
                  Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

                  I'm just happy its back.

                  *shrugs*
                  PSN: Maserati_Bryan17

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                  • Still2REal
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 370

                    #24
                    Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

                    Am I missing something?!?!?

                    Nevermind I see the position restrictions. Still the WR at HB is so rare it's not that big of a deal. I am one of Madden's biggest critics but you guys are tripping on this issue

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                    • StayPlation82
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 706

                      #25
                      Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

                      yeah cause there's not a huge advantage for it. a HB guarded by a CB is cool. a WR guarded by a LB not so much. advantage WR. same at TE. Madden does a good job of telling you personnel on the field but a lot of that strategy went out with the lack of being able to counter in Gen2/3
                      "Accept victory and defeat in equanimity"

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                      • Tatupu_64
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 252

                        #26
                        Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

                        Originally posted by Still2REal
                        Am I missing something?!?!?

                        Nevermind I see the position restrictions. Still the WR at HB is so rare it's not that big of a deal. I am one of Madden's biggest critics but you guys are tripping on this issue
                        And clearly an attempt to cheese imo. What teams actually do this? Cobb does it on occasion, who else?

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                        • Hooe
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 21555

                          #27
                          Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

                          Originally posted by StayPlation82
                          yeah cause there's not a huge advantage for it. a HB guarded by a CB is cool. a WR guarded by a LB not so much. advantage WR. same at TE. Madden does a good job of telling you personnel on the field but a lot of that strategy went out with the lack of being able to counter in Gen2/3
                          Another fair point. Without the ability to assign defensive match-ups, I could see this sort of flexibility being a point of frustration and creating exploits.

                          I still would rather have unlimited flexibility myself, but again, I understand the mindset.

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                          • ginix
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 111

                            #28
                            Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

                            No WR at HB but thankfully I can put HB at WR and now with full player editing that should not be a problem at all. So happy this has finally returned to Madden.

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                            • Hooe
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 21555

                              #29
                              Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

                              Originally posted by Tatupu_64
                              And clearly an attempt to cheese imo. What teams actually do this? Cobb does it on occasion, who else?
                              Off the top of my head, WRs I've seen line up in the offensive backfield as a running back - Randall Cobb, Tavon Austin, Dexter McCluster, DeAnthony Thomas, Percy Harvin, Cordarrelle Patterson, Lucky Whitehead, Julio Jones, AJ Green.

                              It's not common, granted, but it's also not rare.

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                              • StayPlation82
                                Pro
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 706

                                #30
                                Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

                                yeah i'd much rather have the option available and let the rules committee of these online CFMs handle the rest. especially since this seems to be a CFM only feature.
                                "Accept victory and defeat in equanimity"

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