Madden NFL 17 Video - New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals (cookieboy17)

[SolidSquid]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals (cookieboy17)

If users wanna do that with DT fine, but at least make ratings matter, no way Alan Branch is The Honeybadger is coverage and no way he backpedals fast enough to keep up with a 20 yard route.

I like to think Rex misunderstood what we were saying like some people here.

[TombSong]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals (cookieboy17)

With ratings seeming to be still a don't really matter issue in this game, I'm also concerned about not seeing much about the new zone coverages and gap assignments. With that being on the big feature list I'm surprised by the lack of videos on it. We got all these videos dumped on us and none of them really show off these features. I also would like to see videos created by the devs showing these features working and not the youtubers.

[Brooke2011]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals (cookieboy17)

Die hard pats fan here....The colorways on thier cleats are so far off. its amazing how much it takes away from the authenticity of the game....

[jgreengutta]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals (cookieboy17)

That DT had speed and stupid quicks lmfao... come on EA lol

[jfsolo]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals (cookieboy17)

That is such a poor answer. But with the focus on E Sports, user control will continue to trump ratings.

I don't think people have a problem with him being in coverage, it's just how much ground he covers.

How do I suggest they fix it? Proper stamina, locomotion, turning, cutting, acceleration. That was a DT. He was running in the secondary like Sam Shields.....

The DT was Alan Branch.

In Madden 17, his ratings are as follows...

64 speed
54 agility
65 stamina
80 acceleration

How is what he did possible with those ratings?

This is why ratings are still a huge problem in Madden.

If users wanna do that with DT fine, but at least make ratings matter, no way Alan Branch is The Honeybadger is coverage and no way he backpedals fast enough to keep up with a 20 yard route.

I like to think Rex misunderstood what we were saying like some people here.

That DT had speed and stupid quicks lmfao... come on EA lol

That Cardinal User should have ran for the first one the DT dropped back, but that's neither here nor there. Rex may have misunderstood the question, but I don't think that he would have been able to give a different answer even if he understood it correctly.

That a player can User a DT(or any player) way beyond his level of athleticism, is a design choice that is a like a giant anchor dragging down the authenticity of the gameplay, IMO. It keeps the game too tactics oriented, and less about solid football strategy.

[Hooe]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals (cookieboy17)

If users wanna do that with DT fine, but at least make ratings matter, no way Alan Branch is The Honeybadger is coverage and no way he backpedals fast enough to keep up with a 20 yard route.

The user isn't backpedaling with Branch, he starts sprinting full bore down the field immediately after disengaging his block.

Branch's 64 SPD 80 ACC is good enough for about a 4.8-4.9 straight-line 40 time in Madden, and those ratings on par with many quarterbacks in the game. He's playing exactly to his ratings. The user here is just being a clown, and his opponent didn't take advantage; in fact he threw the ball directly at Branch.

The problems I have with this play really boil down to a couple long-standing player ratings issues I have with Madden:
- why does Alan Branch have an 80 ACC rating despite a 1.68 10-yard split from his combine (when he was 30 lbs lighter)? Further - Chad Henne, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Aaron Rodgers, Jameis Winston, and Matt Moore all ran within 0.02 of 1.68 on the 10-yard split, but they all have wildly different ACC ratings. What gives?
- Alan Branch has a STA rating of 65. He should not be able to hold top speed for very long. Based on NFL combine workout numbers, every single player who runs on the field in Madden is capable of maintaining top speed way too long relative to his real-life counterpart.

[Gosens6]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals (cookieboy17)

Really seems like these gameplay videos are doing more harm than good at this point.

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals (cookieboy17)

Clint just responded to this subject


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals (cookieboy17)

Really seems like these gameplay videos are doing more harm than good at this point.

Most of the videos left me feeling very excited to play, always will be some negatives.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Cowboy008]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals (cookieboy17)

The DT was Alan Branch.

In Madden 17, his ratings are as follows...

64 speed
54 agility
65 stamina
80 acceleration

How is what he did possible with those ratings?

This is why ratings are still a huge problem in Madden.

Maybe lowering his acceleration rating would help?

[howboutdat]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals (cookieboy17)

So let me get this striaght, just because his Accel is 80, that alone gives him ability to sprint that fast for over 3 seconds. i mean as fast as a wr. Shouldnt his speed also , somehow play into that.

Like shouldn't a player with 88 speed , 80 accel be able to run faster than a 64 speed 80 accel anyone? Seems to me if a players speed rating is low, even with a higher accel, he should still be slow. Accel i thought just got you up to your top speed faster the higher it is....So this 64 speed guy could get to his top speed of "64" faster than someone with 65 accel.... What am im missing here?

[SolidSquid]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals (cookieboy17)

That Cardinal User should have ran for the first one the DT dropped back, but that's neither here nor there. Rex may have misunderstood the question, but I don't think that he would have been able to give a different answer even if he understood it correctly.

That a player can User a DT(or any player) way beyond his level of athleticism, is a design choice that is a like a giant anchor dragging down the authenticity of the gameplay, IMO. It keeps the game too tactics oriented, and less about solid football strategy.

It's just bc madden wants that ESports market so they need things like there where user control trumps everything else including real world physics and logic. Sure the opponent shoulda ran the ball but it doesn't make this any less unrealistic. When I play NBA 2k I don't get to be Lebron James with Norris Cole just bc I'm controlling him. I can't post up like Shaq with Jeff Teague just bc I'm controlling him. When I play the show i don't hit 20 home runs with Zach Greinke just bc I'm controlling him.

It should be a goal of all sports game to first and foremost represent their sport in the most authentic of manners.

[aholbert32]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals (cookieboy17)

:50 is the main reason I rarely if ever watch preview videos anymore.

I know I'm gonna buy the game.
I know I'm not going to play the game the way the video guys do.
I know I'm likely to play on a higher difficulty level or with sliders which will make the game play different.
I know I'm gonna tweak or use a roster that tweaks the ratings to make them more realistic.
I dont play online much or against people who would do stuff like that so it doesnt bother me.

That doesnt mean they shouldnt fix things like this

These videos are for people who arent sure they are going to buy the game or who need a Madden fix before next week.

[NDAlum]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals (cookieboy17)

I'm content with their explanation. I understand it's a video game and not everything can be turned perfectly. I am put off by the "well then run the ball at this user" comment. There are yearly exploits in this game. This might be one of them. It could potentially be super easy to engage with the OL, see it's a pass, and then sprint back (i.e. this exact play). After a couple days none of us are fooled by PA plays because the camera tips them off.

[playajay98]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals (cookieboy17)

So let me get this striaght, just because his Accel is 80, that alone gives him ability to sprint that fast for over 3 seconds. i mean as fast as a wr. Shouldnt his speed also , somehow play into that.

Like shouldn't a player with 88 speed , 80 accel be able to run faster than a 64 speed 80 accel anyone? Seems to me if a players speed rating is low, even with a higher accel, he should still be slow. Accel i thought just got you up to your top speed faster the higher it is....So this 64 speed guy could get to his top speed of "64" faster than someone with 65 accel.... What am im missing here?

This is the reason why I always play with the speed threshold on ZERO. I noticed out of the box years ago that linebackers were running down receivers. For some reason, Madden thinks it's ok for speed to not be accurately represented. Play with threshold on zero and it opens the game up a lot. Much more dynamic AND realistic.